Coming back to MQ and Marmalaid.
At a naturist club, there's a huge different mindset.
I can honestly say that I've been around hundreds and hundreds of pretty good looking nude women and never ever felt a twitch - and yes, of course you look.
But walk into the play room at Libs, and Mr Happy rises admirably to the occasion at the sight of the first pert bot.
Go figure .... it's all in the mind and circumstances.
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True, but there's not many 'mixed'.
At the mo there's a huge row in the 'purely naturist' community who are hugely pissed off that swingers are associating themselves with the word 'naturist'. They think we're jumping on their bandwagon to give a degreee of respectability (their words) to swinging and adult themes in general. Their concern is that naturism should be perceived by the great unwashed public at large as a wholesome, family orientated pastime that is devoid of any reference to sex. And there's a long long history of it being just that.
Brighton Sun Club is currently on centre stage as a place that's changed to a mixed environment - and the naturists aren't happy bunnys about it.
At the mo there's a huge row in the 'purely naturist' community who are hugely pissed off that swingers are associating themselves with the word 'naturist'. They think we're jumping on their bandwagon to give a degreee of respectability (their words) to swinging and adult themes in general. Their concern is that naturism should be perceived by the great unwashed public at large as a wholesome, family orientated pastime that is devoid of any reference to sex. And there's a long long history of it being just that.
Brighton Sun Club is currently on centre stage as a place that's changed to a mixed environment - and the naturists aren't happy bunnys about it.
Hi there .. we just posted a note on the "Socialising in Clubs" thread. Like you we went to Liberation newbies night as our first time but we didn't get to play with anyone as we were a bit unsure how to go about it ... what date did you go? We also felt quite intimidated as we couldn't figure who wanted what etc etc
We went again on a Saturday a few weeks back. It was heaving but at least we got to break the ice and can't be called newbies any more LOL. Want to go again soon - still a bit nervous about approaching the obvious 'regulars' .... have you worked out how you'r going to approach it?
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We went again on a Saturday a few weeks back. It was heaving but at least we got to break the ice and can't be called newbies any more LOL. Want to go again soon - still a bit nervous about approaching the obvious 'regulars' .... have you worked out how you'r going to approach it?
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We're SO glad that people have said this as it's exactly how we feel as well.
Like 'wewanttu2' (Hi there!) our first experience was at the Liberation 'newbie' night early Sept. Unfortunately we were late because of a motorway accident so we missed the social chat and even had to sit at a table on our own. That night we chatted to some other couples but never got to play as we were really unsure about how to make the first move.
So we went a second time, this time on a Saturday as we thought it would be much busier. But we found it a bit intimidating as most people seemed to know everyone else and being a little on the shy side, we kind of felt we shouldn't 'butt in' (purely our fault we know now). But we went through to the play room, had a good time in the jacuzzi and finally plucked up courage to say 'hi' to a nice couple that we subsequently had some fun with.
Our only problem is that we really only want to 'soft swing' and we kind of felt a bit like "second class citzens". OK, we know this is our fault as well :-)
But I guess what we've learned now is to kind of turn things on its head. Mrs NCIG made the point in the bar - "It's just like being in any pub or club when you look around isn't it". And so it was (well, ok, except for the wonderful lady in thigh-high boots, black PVC thong body and not much else ..... wooooo hoooo). But the point we decided that everyone was there pretty well for one thing - so in fact there is that common bond thing that makes groups of like-minded people work ok and be supportive with each other.
So we're going back a third time and if it's any help to anyone with the same dilemma, we've decided to just chat to as many people as we can - and sooner or later we'll find another couple who wants the same as us.
Like 'wewanttu2' (Hi there!) our first experience was at the Liberation 'newbie' night early Sept. Unfortunately we were late because of a motorway accident so we missed the social chat and even had to sit at a table on our own. That night we chatted to some other couples but never got to play as we were really unsure about how to make the first move.
So we went a second time, this time on a Saturday as we thought it would be much busier. But we found it a bit intimidating as most people seemed to know everyone else and being a little on the shy side, we kind of felt we shouldn't 'butt in' (purely our fault we know now). But we went through to the play room, had a good time in the jacuzzi and finally plucked up courage to say 'hi' to a nice couple that we subsequently had some fun with.
Our only problem is that we really only want to 'soft swing' and we kind of felt a bit like "second class citzens". OK, we know this is our fault as well :-)
But I guess what we've learned now is to kind of turn things on its head. Mrs NCIG made the point in the bar - "It's just like being in any pub or club when you look around isn't it". And so it was (well, ok, except for the wonderful lady in thigh-high boots, black PVC thong body and not much else ..... wooooo hoooo). But the point we decided that everyone was there pretty well for one thing - so in fact there is that common bond thing that makes groups of like-minded people work ok and be supportive with each other.
So we're going back a third time and if it's any help to anyone with the same dilemma, we've decided to just chat to as many people as we can - and sooner or later we'll find another couple who wants the same as us.
On a slightly related subject, over the last 18 months or so we've used both ISPQ and ICUii to 'chat' with other couples ( however the 'thrill' of playing on cam in a 320x240 pixel screen wears thin very quickly by the way! lol). On 9 occasions we've felt we've got to know the other couple sufficiently to either meet up or invite them to our home. On most of the occasions it's been a bit of a disaster one way or another. When you actually get to meet them in the flesh we've found there's that "something" that you were never able to spot and you find yourself figuring how to extract yourselves from the situation.
Summary for us was that 'online' contact still has a long way to go although undoubtedly it will be the way of the future. It's primarily what made us take the decision to dump the above and become members of 'Liberation'. It seems like there's not yet a good substitute for actually chatting face to face to get to know people.
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Summary for us was that 'online' contact still has a long way to go although undoubtedly it will be the way of the future. It's primarily what made us take the decision to dump the above and become members of 'Liberation'. It seems like there's not yet a good substitute for actually chatting face to face to get to know people.
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Hi Again ... we just can't keep away now LOL.
OK this is one that troubled Mr NCIG (tsk, why did we pick that handle!) - and it's probably pretty silly. But like we said, this is all new to us and as 'mid-fifty' yr olds (oops, mentioned that again) we have a lot of catching up to do - but we intend to learn fast
OK, so you're in the big Play Room and a couple in front of you are really enjoying themselves. All of a sudden you realise that they are looking at you .. no particular expressions or anything. Mr NCIG said he felt like he was being a bit of a perve (no, he doesn't have any track history of peeping tom behaviour we know of), and broke eye contact, slightly embarrassed.
OK, so we agree it's a great idea to get to know someone first - that's what we'd hope to normally do. But in the atmosphere of the Play Room, just what's the etiquette of eye contact ...invitation, turn on or turn off?
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OK this is one that troubled Mr NCIG (tsk, why did we pick that handle!) - and it's probably pretty silly. But like we said, this is all new to us and as 'mid-fifty' yr olds (oops, mentioned that again) we have a lot of catching up to do - but we intend to learn fast
OK, so you're in the big Play Room and a couple in front of you are really enjoying themselves. All of a sudden you realise that they are looking at you .. no particular expressions or anything. Mr NCIG said he felt like he was being a bit of a perve (no, he doesn't have any track history of peeping tom behaviour we know of), and broke eye contact, slightly embarrassed.
OK, so we agree it's a great idea to get to know someone first - that's what we'd hope to normally do. But in the atmosphere of the Play Room, just what's the etiquette of eye contact ...invitation, turn on or turn off?
XX
Many thanks for the lovely words of welcome and the great advice ... especially as it has come from you nice people in the age group we were most worried about. We feel loads better now.
We'll put that one to bed (as they say lol) now - and sorry that it appears it was an 'old and many tikmes asked question' - but guess there'll be more!
Just one more (kind of related) thing to clear up which we've posted in another question.
Many thanks to all replies ... now we wonder if we'll see anyone from this Forum at Liberation?
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We'll put that one to bed (as they say lol) now - and sorry that it appears it was an 'old and many tikmes asked question' - but guess there'll be more!
Just one more (kind of related) thing to clear up which we've posted in another question.
Many thanks to all replies ... now we wonder if we'll see anyone from this Forum at Liberation?
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First of all 'Hi!' and to say that last night we went on our first ever swinging evening with a visit to Liberation. Just want to echo the mearks of most people in that it is so well organised, great welcome, lived up to the 'no pressure' promise, and consider it a great introduction to the lifestyle.
OK, here's the really stupid question.
We know that the swinging scene is open to everyone, but we're what people would describe as 'middle fifties' - albeit (we think) in pretty good nick :-). What surprised us a little was that the average age was a lot lower than we expected. Not a problem for us (loved it - you were all great to look at LOL!). But if you are in the 20 - 35 bracket (say) what do YOU feel about 'us oldies' on the scene. We're not fishing here, just are intriqued at what is your reaction. Is it a "everyone is welcome here" or a "urrrgh, lets leave the old folks to themselves in the corner" sort of reaction. Nothing paranoiac you understand :-) ... but after you've been in the Voyeurs room for a little while and nobody stops to watch - well, you know what we mean.
We really didn't get a chance to chat about this when we were there - know we should have done but in honesty felt a little reluctant to make any suggestions to obviously younger people - don't ask why, just felt it.
But we're really looking forward to our next trip on a Saturday when we're told there's lots more people. Great lifestyle ... loving it so far!
OK, here's the really stupid question.
We know that the swinging scene is open to everyone, but we're what people would describe as 'middle fifties' - albeit (we think) in pretty good nick :-). What surprised us a little was that the average age was a lot lower than we expected. Not a problem for us (loved it - you were all great to look at LOL!). But if you are in the 20 - 35 bracket (say) what do YOU feel about 'us oldies' on the scene. We're not fishing here, just are intriqued at what is your reaction. Is it a "everyone is welcome here" or a "urrrgh, lets leave the old folks to themselves in the corner" sort of reaction. Nothing paranoiac you understand :-) ... but after you've been in the Voyeurs room for a little while and nobody stops to watch - well, you know what we mean.
We really didn't get a chance to chat about this when we were there - know we should have done but in honesty felt a little reluctant to make any suggestions to obviously younger people - don't ask why, just felt it.
But we're really looking forward to our next trip on a Saturday when we're told there's lots more people. Great lifestyle ... loving it so far!
