A question for the Couples

10 Aug 2005

I recall once (some months ago) a thread about peoples attitudes towards the approach of doggers in certain types of car (4x4, vans, 3 people in a car etc)
Now slightly different...
How do you feel about pedal cyclists and motorcyclists parking their bikes up next to your car, and sitting there staring at you, waiting for you to "get on with it"?
Normally (decent) car drivers will guage a "respectable distance" to allow between themselves and a couple, so as to leave at least one coat of paint on the door (only joking lol

) but how often have I seen that this gap is just perfect for bikers to drive straight into?
Are you happy that the biker has his face hidden by wearing a helmet, or do you rather see the full body of the biker than just the head of a car driver through the window?
Thoughts? Comments?

11 Aug 2005

Whilst we have often encountered guys on motorbikes or cycles, we have never had one park right next to our car. They usually park them and then have a wander round like a lot of car drivers do.
We have dogged many times with a guy on a cycle, although I do make him remove his trouser clips. I don't find them sexy in the least wink

We would not start any action if a guy with a crash helmet on stood next to the window though :shock: I like to at least see someone's face, to know it isn't my boss (again!!), next door neighbour or whatever :lol2:
I have to say I prefer the approach of guys wandering around at a discrete distance. Those who sit in their cars waiting for the action to begin will have a bloody long wait with us.
If they sit in their cars, it makes me nervous. Are they taking notes on our vehicle and what we get up to in order to report us to the local Council, Police, etc? So we won't do anything, so it is rather self defeating for them confused

At least if they have a little wander around, I can see their hands, so know they are not taking notes, taking pics on a camera phone or whatever lol

Tracy-Jayne

11 Aug 2005

Yes, we agree with TJ - if you can't see the faces it's not cool.
Maybe we've been lucky so far but it's almost always the case where we go that the chaps park up or dismount and mosey on over.
There is by the way a group known as kent-biking-doggers who operate around Medway who dog exclusively on bikes. Very jolly lot. Find 'em with a search engine. groups
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11 Aug 2005

Quote by partyman
How do you feel about pedal cyclists and motorcyclists parking their bikes up next to your car, and sitting there staring at you, waiting for you to "get on with it"?
Normally (decent) car drivers will guage a "respectable distance" to allow between themselves and a couple, so as to leave at least one coat of paint on the door (only joking ) but how often have I seen that this gap is just perfect for bikers to drive straight into?
Thoughts? Comments?

Honestly?
We could "out sit" anyone, and we're known to be a bit mouthy. Not sure where that came from but apparently it's true. Its never happened to us, mind you, it might have something to do with G's new paint on the Jag. Most blokes know about 'scratchin distance!'

11 Aug 2005

Interesting stuff here,
So on the south coast, the done thing is to get out and wander around on foot, whereas here in Birmingham, if you get out before it's obvious that you're "accepted" by a couple, it's viewed as intimidating, and couples tend to drive away. (A point to note for southerners visiting our area)
"Safe Distances" - well the "one and a half times the width of your vehicle" rule seems common here. Far enough away not to evesdrop on conversations but not so far as to look disinterested. Again, here, its up to the couple to signify when they are ready before doors open and people walk closer.
Problem is that one and a half times the width of a motorbike isn't a problem to the bikers when they park in "your" gap. They can be one and a half times "their" width away, and sod you, sort of thing.
By the sounds of it bikes lend themselves to the dogging styles in some parts of the country more than others then.

13 Aug 2005

hiya partyman, great to see the union jack flying again :thumbup:
having never been dogged by pedal, or motorcyclist, we have nothing to contribute on the subject of space abuse and subsequent feelings of intimidation from such, howether, the psychological aspect of our chosen branch of nocturnal deviance is something that interests and amuses us. given that dogging is an activity that operates beyond the envelope, regarding the emotions we experience throughout our daily routine, obviously there are going to be some major missunderstandings, especially among the newbies, something that is regularly bourne out in the "post dogging trauma" threads so evident on the board. lol

you yourself obviously have an interest in such things too, and you're understanding may go well beyond mine. allow me to share my thoughts, and feel free to correct me if you feel i've gone astray with them.
on the issue of "intimidation", i feel this is subjective, and dependant on the couple's level of experience, and/or general attitude. the fact that doggers do things, or act in ways that can be interpretted as intimidating, is obviously something they need to address, but often such things are taken out of context by inexperienced couples, who, unaware of the true factors giving rise to their negative emotions, seek to vent their frustration on the hapless dogger :lol: :shock:
take a certain aspect of dogging that occurs most weekends, at our most frequented arena, something that would appear commonplace, regardless of geographical location. an inexperienced couple enters the carpark on a saturday night, say, 10 o'clock. immediately the couple feel out of their depth, it isn't as they had anticipated, where are all the other couples, why so many guys? suddenly, faces appear at the window.(the guys can't see in, until six inches away from the glass). this wasn't the "scripted" train of events they had envisaged, no invite or signal had been given. the result is predictable, the couple leave, their mood is less than good. an hour later, another couple arrive. this time, they are experienced, haven't time for waiting games, wan't several fellas and know the carpark is a good bet. before the handbrake is applied, several guys swamp the car. moments later, the lady exits the vehicle, says a cheery "hello" before being led to the picnic table for a gangbang session. the polite voyeurs have been waiting on the sideline, muttering about pushy bastards, but now move over to oversee the action..if anything, these "good guys" are considered a minor irritation to the couple.
all that has happened, is like has been attracting like. the latter couple have their choice of carparks in which to play, but by far their best option for fun, was the venue containing the hardcore players. the majority of which, operate in packs, and we term the "dogging mafia" the newbie, or timid showcouple picked the wrong venue in which to have fun, thats all. only a few miles down the road, there is a dogging site where often, the guys won't approach until a very clear invite, by way of headlight flash is given. subsequently, during a show, even if the window is wound down, there is no conclusion drawn that the gesture is an invite to touch..so again, not so much geographical as "house style" bourne through the experiences of the venue.
the carparks that we favour, particularly on a weekend evening, hosts little in the way of "non participating shows".in fact, i do not anticipate contradiction by stating less than one in ten "events" are "just" shows. this is how our particular site has evolved, and novice couples usually cannot hack it.. the dogging mafia assume that every new arrival is a potential playing couple, when the couple flees the place, their actions are just confirmation that there was nothing to be gained with them, and therefore, their loss to the site, of no consequence..selfish, yes, but fact. some couples never return, some do, if the mafia aren't in residence, there is a chance of low key fun, if they are, the scenario is again trotted out, until something gives.
these "mafioso" often operate in packs..it is their best survival ploy. this pack status usually isn't immediately obvious, but as i said before, they will be strategically positioned, in phone contact, have scouts and enjoy a manopoly on playing arrivals. these guys tend to be trophy hunters first and foremost. the sex is important, but as a conclusion to the "conquest", (the prime motive). this doesn't mean to imply that the fun with a "bagged" couple is anything less than enthusiastic though, as usually it is, maybe in part as a result of the group thing. it is the "trophy awards" that keep these guys in the game. the "penguin doggers" as we call them, endure too, but for them, a moist recepticle in which to sheaf their weapon is the only consideration. the sex, is habitual, and unlike the mafia, who soon lose interest in a "bagged" couple, are happy to entertain the same ladies over a period of months, even years. to them, the sex is seen as a need, and often no more enthusiastically given than a donation at a sperm bank. again, they have their female counterpart, so its like attracting like once more.
you might then ask, "given the high levels of expectancy at our venue, why do we favour it, especially on a saturday night, seeing as we are only a showcouple"?. well, instead of fleeing the place at the first feelings of intimidation, we sat it out, watched and waited. pretty soon, the mafia realised we weren't going to esculate our game to gangbang status, and lost interest in us , guys are still asked wether "its playing yet"? but thats it. now we co-exist quite happily, and can show without hassle, and are able to observe all the wonderfull goings on with calm detachment..it is difficult for couples to not act on their initial impulses, but beneficial in the long term.