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Hi, recently entered the world of dogging and experienced some teething problems, would welcome any tips..
Attended some good sites and there have been the odd couples coming along in cars. They even turn the light on, which I take to signify some sort of action may be forthcoming. However, in most cases they have then gone off, or sat having a fag...
When should one approach? Do they switch the light on again to allow you to see in the car in the dark or are you mean to peer in? Mostly I have waited in my car - maybe too long..or sometime I have approached only to see them sitting and smoking...
Sorry if this seems a bit naive but there seems to be some people with experience (and success) out there....
Cheers
I'm guilty here. I've been known to sit in a car in a dimly lit car park, having a fag redface .... oh, ummmm, and smoking as well lol :twisted:
Yeah, seriously, tricky one this.... if you don't approach they might be waiting for you to make the first move, but if you do approach they might accuse you of being a perv. Way of the world, I'm afraid, no easy answers, it happens to us all rolleyes
From the point of a couple who regularly visit car parks, we find that most of the doggers seem to have a little walk around the park and although not too close to the cars, they can see where the action is and is not.
It's quite common for us to see half a dozen men wandering around with their hands in their pockets, having a peep around. It seems to be the accepted way, certainly where we go.
The lights being flashed is usually a given signal, as is putting the interior light on briefly. However, the occupants may also put the interior light on to find their cigs, so this one should be treated with caution lol
One thing to avoid at all costs is this - never approach the car directly it arrives in the park. Give the folks time to settle down and begin the show.
We have had a couple of occassions where, even before we have turned off the car engine, there has been someone at the window :!: :shock:
It is not only very bad manners, but is also extremely off putting sad
Try a discrete walk around next time. We hope it works for you smile
Terry-Jayne & Jon
hi redhot we think you covered that query extremely well did you read :small-print: straight from the manual
Hi Malcom,
No we didn't read it from the manual, but wish that some people would read the bloody thing :!:
We have just returned home early due to the 'headlights full on' brigade and their friends 'see who can get to the car first' gang mad
Terry had to ask one bloke to leave tonight as he came straight over to us as we arrived - only for the cheeky sod to come back a while later! banghead
All we ask is a little manners folks - surely not too much to expect? Perhaps we'll take a copy of the small print with us next time and get them to read through it first!! wink
Jon & Terry-Jayne
we quite agree with you we get same problem we dont think they can read large print never mind :small-print: or they dont understand the written word we have tried taking different cars to give us a head start and sometimes it works :taz:
We've tried different cars too but found that being the only couple in the car park most times, a different car actually made no difference at all . . . rolleyes
Never mind - it's all good fun - isn't it?!
if the colour is different it really confuses them, they are a little slower on the uptake must be sea air but what we find amusing is when they come in disguise, baseball caps and sunglasses cant change the car :!:
lol Quite agree about disguise mate. However, Terry usually recognises them by their hands and . . . :!: Can't put a baseball cap on that can they?
Terry, this is the female part of this duo replying to you, do you really recognise them by their hands ,I usually recognise other parts of their anatomy!!!However you are right I tend to remember cold hands! :doh:
Female part? Don't you have a name girl?! lol
I recognise their hands because they are usually the only bits I see of them - apart from the obvious :!: They stand at the car door and put their hands on their hips, holding their sweaters out of the way. I seldom look above their navel wink
You'd be amazed at the varying size of hands I've seen. Almost as many different sizes of hands as sizes of - you know what redface
Terry-Jayne
Hi Terry Jayne, its Jude. Perhaps men are more daring here as they open car doors and you get to see more of their bodies,beer bellies etc! as some cant reach through window if they are short ,in heigth that is! redface
Hi Jude. Nice to meet you!
Know what you mean about seeing more of their bodies. I also open the car door, but seldom look at their faces. Did once only to be confronted with a collegue from work :!: :shock:
Luckily I spend an awful lot of time doing reading with specs on at work, and as I didn't have them on that night, he didn't appear to recognise me plus the fact that I don't normally have my boobs out at work either. He was more interested in them than in my face wink
Now I try to keep my head inside the car where it's dark and hope no one recognises me redface
TJ
Hi TJ, how embarising redface ,never mind you are probably right he didnt notice your mostly go out in the daytime , so its easier for us to see who is cuming,I suppose its like these men say ,you dont look at the mantlepiece when poking the fire :haha:
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I suppose its like these men say ,you dont look at the mantlepiece when poking the fire :haha:

Many a true word is spoken in jest . . . lol
TJ
mal just said the only time he looks at the mantlepiece is on his way up incase he bumps his head banghead
The problem being that many couples don't read the dogging handbook.
Scenario 1:
Couple drive in the car park and immediately flash the interior light, blokes wander over (some running to get to the car first), the couple get a strop on and drive out.
Scenario 2:
Couple drive into the car park, park up and do nothing...and nothing...and nothing. Blokes wander over (some sprinting 'cause this is the 3 rd car to be in that night), couple drive out because they hadn't been given time to settle and steam.
Scenario 3:
Couple drive into the car park, park up and flash the brake lights. Blokes wander over at a sedate pace, then realise that there is a female in the car and throw their hands up and get in a tiz. Couple drive out feeling insulted that nobody ran over. Gays flash brake lights.
What do I do:
Immediately drive out because all those plonkers running over will start to beat each other up to get in first, and then the car will drive over the ones still standing.
Seriously !
I usually have a walk-past and show slight interest but don't get close.
Yes, some of the couples will just be in for a shag never having heard of dogging (or sex either probably)....these will shout out things like "PERVERT" (music to my ears...I know my place...I can perv with the best)
And before you say it, yes...minor infringement of the rules. BUT, some people stand looking at the car, who sit looking at the lookers, who stand looking at the car.....this goes on for hours sometimes, and this is winter.
And my way works anyway. I drove into a layby tonight and there was a car there that had been there a few times, but nothing had happened before. So, I just had a walk by and then just stood about 10 metres away and waited...they started playing and then eventually put the light on inside and the game started...a V nice young lady in black stocking, black suzzies, black thong and a nice bum under it all....
The rules are not set in concrete and many couples don't WANT to put the light on anyway, this is a dark car park and who the hell knows who is out there...there could be REAL perverts about....just don't be pushy...and NEVER bang on the car, NEVER say things afterwards like "YOU CAN HAVE YOUR MEAT NOW" and NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER-NEVER follow a couple out and down the road...it IS NOT done (unless they ask you to)
Going back to the original query in this thread, as many prople above have said, there is no standard procedure. However it is really a matter of making the intentions on both sides as plain as possible. I normally follow the following scenario.
1) Park up and WAIT. and WAIT, and WAIT.
2) If and when a couple pull in WAIT 10 mins or longer. Remember that they are probably watching you as closely as you are watching them. A pair of binoculars is useful at this time.
3) Get out of the car. Make it obvious that you have got out. ie. dont have the interior light disconnected, sneak out of the back door etc. Remember they are watching you.
4) If you are a smoker, stand by the car, light a fag, be relaxed. Remember they are watching you.
5) Stand looking towards their car for a couple of minutes
6) Wander across the car park, not directly towards them, but getting closer.
7) If they are looking to play at this point they will hopefully give some indication. Interior light flash, brake lights etc.
8) Do not rush over, approach gradually.
9) If you have had no encouragement at this point get back in the car and WAIT. Try again in 15 to 20 mins.
10) Remember that a lot of dogging sites are also used by young couples who have never heard of dogging. It is not fair to spoil their fun. (you wouldn't like it) and only gives dogging a bad name.
Since this is about dogging, you may as well be let into the secret.
To you, dogging is meeting couples etc in various locations for sex.
Dogging, however, was originally people watching others have sex and doing so surreptitiously. ie: peeping toms to use the colloquial ordinary-people phrase. Or voyeurs, to use the sexual psychologist phrase.
So you will find that laybys and car parks have their fair quotient of traditional doggers, who will watch anything as long as it involves sex.
You will also find that they are there before you and will be there long after you. Even though you will not see them, since they inevitably park-up away from the scene.
Ordinary couples not wanting to be watched just see the other cars and drive out without stopping.
If they park in the middle of a line of cars they ARE going to be watched whatever.
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4) If you are a smoker, stand by the car, light a fag, be relaxed. Remember they are watching you.

May I say at this point, the above may not be a good idea. Both Jon and I are non smokers and whilst we appreciate that others do smoke, it is not pleasant to have someone approach our car, stinking of fresh smoke. sad
Whilst I never have to worry about smoke on their breath as I never kiss them, the smell on their hands etc is very unpleasant, to say nothing of the whiff on their clothes if they have been sitting in their car with the window shut, smoking and getting covered in the smell.
By all means follow the rest of the good advice, walk around etc, but remember smoke kills - passion and desire! wink
Terry-Jayne
I couldnt agree more with redhot. matt and i dont smoke and wont play with any one who does. give it up.
maria
Not trying at all to defend smoking, personal choice. But someone who gets out to light up a cigarette and wander about tends to be less intimidating, that was the point.
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Not trying at all to defend smoking, personal choice. But someone who gets out to light up a cigarette and wander about tends to be less intimidating, that was the point.

Point accepted, but we still prefer the ones who wander around with their hands in their pockets. Keeps their hands warm too wink
TJ & Jon
:doh: Hi Terry-Jayne, is this turning into an anti smoking campaign? as I know how you feel as I dont smoke but he does,he tried walking around without a cigarette and now gets so many holes in his pockets I dont know what is worse having to sew the bloody holes up or the smell of :smoke: Jude
Thanks to everyone for their advice - I feel I know more.
Jomu, I believe you are in Beds area, and have previously recommended the Clophill layby. Are there couples there or mainly gays...and what is the best time?