hello again naughtywigan,bugger,i get carried away dont i? wish bluexx would ban me,put me out of our misery!!!!.that bit above wasn't even what i was going to say!!!............your bit about guys saying "no thanks".we must remember that many of these boys have very good marriages,and would love to touch or play,but would simply feel guilty,we dont have to comment on their personal feelings as such,just respect thats how they want the visual excitement,for them thats enough......we have seen guys "leg it" when a door opens,that could make the girl think "is it my perfume"?on the other hand,they could be gay,that happens too...........look at it like this nite out,male girls would shag the stripper,no worries,others may do that too,but regret it,some may gladly have a grope,then leave it,some may want too,but feel too embarrassed,some may go with it,so as not to look silly,or offend the stripper,others would make a bolt for the door! we aint that different really!!...the thing for the stripper is,does he get enough hands on action on average,to not make it an issue in his mind,i'd almost certainly say yes!!
sorry naughtywigan,i completely missed your point,which was,having read serendipity's reply,how do guys back off without causing offence!!.....in our experience,they just leg it,but then if you saw mrs dirty,you would too! my whole routine is out today,didn't go out last night,was shopping till late,then the roads froze,so we binned it....just had texts from "the master" saying it was a good are trying to organize ourselves,so we can get out in a little while,which is why i'm so scatterbrained today.........serendipity,if you get to norfolk soon,you must come round the sites with us,meet some couples and really cool of room in the back of my 'll get you back to your b&b,then,next day,after brekkie,we will stroll down by a river,it flows through the grounds of a monastry,it runs as clear as diamond,it is a magical spot,what do ya think?..its there if you want it.
wigan pair,yes,you are both more than welcome,all of you in fact,we can get a bus,"the perversion roadshow",get some tour dates sorted!...there are some good caravan sites local to our al-fresco weasle whipping wonerland,just say the word!...really though,did that for a couple this year,sorted all the camping sites out in advance,then showed them all the little nooks,they had a great weekend!....use and abuse me,i am your servant!...to be truthfull,couples do camp overnight in the forest in the summer,it is a wonderful location......dont you hate it when you've finished typing,then can see loads of errors higher up the page?
so did everyone have a good weekend? all the action that one requires?
I went out last night, parked next to a van with a someone/of more than one in, White Van in Shirley anyone know the Van? but anyway, i flashed the interior light was it was so dark i couldn't make out what was happening and being signaled. Is it impolite to get out the car and signal that way? what is the best way to procede to find out if the other person wishes to play?
But i still was very aroused by not knowing if it was going to go anywhere, but after 15mins i decided to move on, was that to soon?
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beebeep wrote.....so did everyone have a good weekend?........ours was different,you might 't get out saturday,so was chomping at the bit,last night.......parked up,only two other cars,one was "the master",the other,another guy we know quite minutes into the chat,5,i assume gay yobs arrived,i surmise they were gay,as they shouted at me an the missus,"you queer fucking bastards,you dirty sick fucking perverts,yooo hooo,you in the hat,how much for your crack"?,well,make off that what you will......we decide to relocate,having turned our lights on,the doughnuts make a bolt for the exit,lest they are blocked in,the game was afoot,for some bizzare reason we all gave chase,they were but a blurr as i hurtled past,the other guys hemmed them,effectivly reducing them into a twat sandwich,but when a beer can bounced off my wing,i decided my paintwork was more important,so we broke away........having decided it was going to be a quiet night,"the master" and ourselves opted to rendevous at a pull-in,a few miles away,certainly not associated with dogging,the decision,in part,due to the concearn that the yobbos may return mob handed.......upon our arrival however,we were treated to the spectical of a couple,undaunted by our presence,in the throes of passion,wow,real life nookie!they loved it!we left to tooting horns and flashing lights!...the next generation show couple in the making!!
Well yipee for dirty! you had a good weekend, i think i must be using the wrong carpark! so have we nailed down the over all reasons for dogging? If we could all make a suggestion maybe SH could poll it?
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i would love to come along;-) but you are up the northern path so would take a little planning but willing to give it a go!!
So should we start a new thread?
No problem with location, think we are all meeting up at Dirty's place!
It may be worth staring a new thread, and doing it as a poll, but you will need to decide what you think might be the main reasons for people dogging and would you limit it to the single doggers or to just couples, or even both! You may find that you get very different answers from singles than from couples!
Go for it!
so 1) Power
2) Voyrism
3) The open air
Come on then thats knock out some choices and then i'll post
If your doing it for singles then it may be worth asking something like:
1. quick/easy sex/shag
2. to play with someone but not expect anything in return
3. just to watch someone
4. combination of the above
5. other reason (please specify)
6. Like the open air!!!
For couples, you could ask:
1. Quick/easy sex/shag with a stranger
2. To play with a stranger but not expect anything in return
3. Voyerism - Just love being watched
4. The Power it gives to the couple to allow, or not, someone to join in
5 Combination of the above
6. Other reason (please specify)
I was also thinking of starting a thread about pre-arranged Dogging and if this is just outdoor swinging, or is it safer dogging!
Ok poll is up, can we bump it up if it falls of the page? keep it going for a week and see the results next week, (if any)! :shock:
when we done it the once - it was the thought of guys getting off watching my wife - and i think it'd be even more fun when she 'helped' the someone out if you know what I mean.
as a solo watcher, I like watching a couple have sex - I know they've liked to be watched and see me 'enjoying' myself.
just a shame there's not more of it about - and it's easier to do without police/boy racers/idiots wrecking it for the true enthusiast.
ok seeing as this has been given the kiss of life so to speak, what puts people off dogging?
I was reading in another conversation that couples like to see the guy outside of the car, as this helps them to see. My worry was for the single/couple standing outside there cars in the dark and normally in a badly lit area with lots of idiots/weirdoes about. Should every dogger need to carry a panic alarm, and who would hear it?
lots of questions on how to stay safe while dogging. lets clear some up so more of us true doggers can get going at it to stay warm in the winter months.
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What puts people off dogging?
Simple, the cars that come into the car park with all lights ablaze, don't bother to evan dip them, drive around to each individual car to see who is inside (sometimes twice) and then finally park up. More often than not, that car will then hang around for 5 mins before switching all lights on again and leaving. Strangely, same car is back 10 mins later?
Oh, and the guys that don't take no for an answer.......
Nothing "puts me off dogging".
The cars with lights ablaze don't.
The boy racers don't.
The police certainly don't and neither does the weather (although at minus figures of tempature I prefer to have my hands in my pockets).
One of the previous dorks with big lights has just started coming with a woman, and showing.
And with the dark evenings the action is now at earlier times, and the no-hopers are still at home....the drive-by times are empty...
Even the guys who try to push me out of the layby because it's "their" layby don't.
Although the ones who get freaked-out by gays and start a crusade to rid the world (layby) of their "evil" get to be a nuisance...
With two "shows" this week so far, things are going ok................
So, as long as the "newbies" continue to sit at ONE end and chat, I can continue to sit at the "gay" end and watch.