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Do you defend dogging to others? (by snotty b*tch)

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Snotty b*tch is me btw, I am bunged up with a huge cold after a few days of flu!!)
A few of my staff watched Real Wife Swap last night and were discussing that before they inevitably got onto the subject of Dogging. I listened to the various opinions and was quite surprised that they weren't more open minded on the subject, most couldn't understand either the voyeuristic or exhibitionist appeal of it. I know it's not to everyone's taste, I joined in here and there but failed to get them to understand how it could appeal to others - without going the whole hog and fessing up! lol
What do you guys do when you hear other people talking about dogging? It's such a well known term now with lots of misconceptions, do you ever try to defend/explain it or keep mum and leave them to it?
You raise an interesting question here serendipity but then hey I should not be surprised from reading your past positings (flatter flatter).
I think on the whole its something that i dont bother fessing up to. I have found myself in situations such as yours and my feeling is that a herd mentality creeps in, in so much that the moral line out society tries to place on us is that anything outside of a missionary position once a week is heanous so when in a group everyone likes to be seen to toe the line when it comes to sexuallity matters. However get the same people on their own after drink or two and you find that they are probably more interested than they would ever admit but are to scared to go where their curiosity takes them.
In other words, I keep me trap shut !
Hope the snots clear up.
Carl
Its a good point Serendipity. (and i hope the cold clears up soon - ive had it so i sympathise)
When im in earshot of a conversation like that i too tend to clam up - but if im invited to join the conversation i will try to put the alternative argument. (without giving away anything of course biggrin )
I agreee with phuturetek - id bet that a good percentage of the same people who condemn it in public would secretly love to "have a go"
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A few of my staff watched Real Wife Swap last night and were discussing that before they inevitably got onto the subject of Dogging.

Would this be your butler and your parlourmaid? ....... clearly, you're giving them too much free time! lol
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I joined in here and there

Were you by any chance flicking your desk light on and off at the time? :-)
I used to defend dogging but I now find it better to say nothing as I work with approx 40 guys.... there are enough single guys without encouraging more ......now one or two of their wives ...I might just try to pursuade 69position
I'll always try and get people to see the appeal not only of dogging but of swinging, wife swapping, S&M, cross dressing or whatever else people might be into
I mean - what's the problem ?
It's all consenting adults.
Nobody gets hurt (unless they want to of course lol )
Some of my friends know I'm into dogging - they don't seem to care - one of them even made up a 3some with myself and my then partner once.
Then again - perhaps all my friends are perverts too :shock:
with me,it depends on who the people friends of mine know,others i wouldn't mention it go dogging,therefore our viewpoint is based on experience,for those that do not share our pastime,their opinions are just that,opinions,usualy gleaned from sensasionalist media hype,or warnings from agony columnists,thats fine,i dont feel the need to redress the balance....let me give you a little story.....recently we attended a party held by our next door conversation soon got round to porn films,at which point,the host,knowing i occassionaly brought such movies back from frequent trips to holland,asked me to fetch one..the choice was random,but it was immediatly obvious that the film was shwartza gigant,or something like that was a german film,featuring a black guy with a 13 inch opening sequence showed him slamming his chopper into a petite a few minutes there was silence,nobody dared remark lest they be labeled a pervert or a my credibility was already down in the ice was broken by one guest,who complained "thats disgusting"!,one guy said something about wishing he had one like it,and was promptly nudged in the ribs by his embarassed this particular case,it was a safer and less offensive option for the majority to cocur with the more aggressivly opiniated anti porn league,and so the film was more mention was made,until i went to the kitchen for another drink,where half of the guests decided they were thirsty upshot was,i ended up bringing from my house,a carrier bag full of porno to discreetly loan to the departing couples,who proceeded to scurry home with my entire collection of filth,most of which i've yet to recoup...
A couple of days ago a bloke I work with asked about the christmas present (portable DVD Player) I had bought for Mr Naughty, I said he loved it and had watched a full film sat in the car waiting for me to come out of the shops. The bloke then asked if he had been watching the Stan Collymore Dogging series, I just laughed and said dont think he likes Stan Collymore! I jsut could not comment on the Dogging thing! Infact the day after when it came up in conversation, I did actually say that I wasnt even sure what dogging was!
I think that people who have only read about dogging in the papers presume it is a free for all in car parks, they dont necesarily know that a lot of it is about the voyeristic/exhibitionist side of things. Not just having a 'quickie' with the next guy who drives up! Therefore, I dont tell anyone about it!
A few friends/two work colleagues know about our 'hobby' but they are people who I really trust and who are non-judgemental, anyone else, No Chance!
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i ended up bringing from my house,a carrier bag full of porno to discreetly loan to the departing couples,who proceeded to scurry home with my entire collection of filth,most of which i've yet to recoup...

So you're the one who had the porn films!!
I'll drop the ones I borrowed off tomorrow redface
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Were you by any chance flicking your desk light on and off at the time? :-)

Smartypants! lol
It looks like most of us keep it under wraps then, totally understandable. Mr Dirty's story about the porn films highlights what some of you said about herd mentality, it's a shame to hear people saying one thing and then doing another just to agree with everyone else but not unusual I suppose. Proves that the Brit stiff upper lip is the exterior of a very pervy nation! It must be, given the number of sex shops opening up all over the place - I now have three within half a mile of my house :lol:
Mrs Naughty, the Stan comment from your colleague was an odd one....does he have suspicions or just a flippant comment? :shock:
you can keep the extreem anal chicks with dicks one you borrowed spidey,dunno how that got into the collection anyway mate..
As pointed out in my previous post I dont talk about dogging at work or with friends but on several occasions when I have been out I have seen the car of a senior manager he as never mentioned me being there and I've never mentioned it to him but for the next two weeks I will be working closely with him during a training program so that could be interesting will have to wait and see.........
If and when i get asked about "dogging" i simply say "each to thier own" then quickly change the subject. Chickens way out i know but i find it easier.
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As pointed out in my previous post I dont talk about dogging at work or with friends but on several occasions when I have been out I have seen the car of a senior manager he as never mentioned me being there and I've never mentioned it to him but for the next two weeks I will be working closely with him during a training program so that could be interesting will have to wait and see.........

A fellow manager at my husbands work often frequents the same car parks as we do(They both drive company cars so it was not hard for us to spot him or him us!) Although he's gay and there for a totally different reason! He has commented on several occasions to my husband at work along the lines of " Weather on saturday night was poor wasnt it? or Did your wife have a good night on such & such?
It's a case of we know what he's up too and obviously he knows what we are there for!
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you can keep the extreem anal chicks with dicks one you borrowed spidey,dunno how that got into the collection anyway mate..

the dubbing was terrible... and so was the acting.... music was better than average!
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If and when i get asked about "dogging" i simply say "each to thier own" then quickly change the subject. Chickens way out i know but i find it easier.

Nah, I don't think you're being a chicken at all! Trying to put across your own broader views is one thing but self preservation has to kick in at some point, whether it's avoiding gossip about yourself or just not letting others want to come along on a doggers night out and flood a good location (been reading this http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/32083.html - Jomu's comment in particular). I read a thread in the Cafe where someone had confided in friends that they were swingers and it all went horribly wrong as the "friends" reacted very badly :!: Maybe Dogging is like marmite, you love it or you don't and the chances of getting someone to understand why you like it are slim lol
Interesting i had an exam on friday regarding enlightenment thinking, and one question was about John Lockes Theory of innate ideas. it appears to me that society has an innate idea about swinging and dogging and that it is only via experience and the senses that it will be removed. If at some stage everybody was in a position to experience a swing, either to take part or just to see what happens, then the anti-swing/dogging mentality of society could and should be reversed. If we were all as liberated as we like to think then wouldn't we all be echoing Voltaire's "i may not agree with what you say, but i will defend you right to say it"?
The human race has evolved passed sex as being only to continue the race, and it has become a social thing, therefore why are we suffering as a race for wishing to partake in a social event/passtime?
Am I alone in thinking that if everyone accepted this practice and heaven forbid even participated then it would lose its appeal...so I am not on an evangelical mission to convince the world I am not a pervert ... I am!!!...in its narrowest sense of course.
However I am a believer in open minds and would, as previously quoted by one of the posters herewith, comment on a "each to their own" basis and as long as no one is damaged by any experiences then WGAF.
<---Pervert that would cross old ladies over the road, cries at kids performances and soppy movies and would and has risked one own safety to defend innocents against bullies.
...but adores ladies legs :twisted:
errrr. well me and 2 other female members of the sight had to explain what dogging was to the taxi driver on the wat home from Marcusos party.
on the way to the party he asked if we was going to a "sex party" and you should of seen the siclence in the car. so on the way back he was asking us about it. and dogging came up. he was quiet shocked at teh respose we gave him.
i think he'll remember that night for a long while!!!
JGL
Hi Serendipity
Hope you are better now.
I have only confided in one mate (male), in fact he attended with me once and we both had a good time dogging (though he saw some sex going on while I was still parking the car, I had to wait months!).
Good illustration about marmite and yes I love it as much as dogging.
Regards
Harry Jones
nither of us defend anything we do as far as our swinging activaties go we do what we do and sod what anyone thinks about us .We have and do/ go dogging /visit clubs done socials hotels pples houses and 1ce had company over .Thats us like it or lump it xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Interesting responses from everyone as always !! biggrin
Firehott, I wasn't suggesting that anyone needs to defend what they do to others - don't tell seems to be the commonest course of action anyway! I was just interested to know if people tried to explain the appeal of dogging or just kept quiet.
Harry's story illustrates Jomu's point about telling your mates and they might want in nicely, and poor Harry missed the action! lol
oops sowwy misunderstood that bit the attraction u say well its "wrong " isnt it enhances the fun make sit more exiting