Dogging Dilemmas....(the numbers game)

8 Sep 2005

The North East of England,industrial stronghold,diversity of people,historical fount....but pretty poor for dogging???
having been to a few of the "popular" sites in our area a multitude of times,both of us seem to think that the North East suffers from a distinct lack of dedicated doggers. LUNACY i hear you shout,well yes but by that we mean there is,or so we have noticed, a profound lack of couples who indulge in the pursuit of dogging.
We have been out on a number of occasions and found groups of men who have,if truth be known ruined it for themselves by approaching the car as soon as we park up. now dont get me wrong, we, as much as anybody, realise that dogging is an exhibitionist pursuit, but to be mobbed as soon as we enter a spot is not good etiquette.
we are starting to think that it isnt the new threat of boy racers that is killing off dogging in the NE (and many other areas), it is indeed the people who lurke around the sites and mob couples who are looking to be watched and show a bit of exhibitionism as soon as the brake light is off and before the driver has chance to kill the engine mad

have any other couples had similar experiences??, and has this deterred you from dogging? would be interesting to hear from those who have been party to this, or any male doggers(watchers etc) who have comments on this topic......

8 Sep 2005

Stenrachy,
Yes I have views on this, in fact it is a soapbox topic for me!
I totally agree that those who do not give couples time to relax and get comfortable with the situation are a real nuisance. I think most of them are not really doggers but people looking for a quickie.
I know this may sound a little strange but a big part of the thrill of dogging for me is the anticipation and yes the waiting!. The "are they or are they not feelings" the waiting for the signal, the nervousness on the approach etc.
It is totally ruined when you have been taking your time sussing it out and giving a coulpe time and space for some moron to come into the car park lights blazing and park so close the couple could polish his car without moving. Not only is disrespectful tothe couple but also the patient doggers who have given the space.
As for the situation where the car park is busy with doggers before you arrive that is only slighhtly more tricky, I think it can be quite intimidating even if everyone gives you space and time. However, it is still basic etiquette to give you that time.
Then there is the situation where a couple may drive off and realise that they have suddenly become the pied piper and have a procession behind them.
THankfully I have seen all of these a lot less of late but maybe I am mellowing in my old age.
Sorry to rant but I think the genuine doggers feel the same as you, as quite simply if its ruinedfor you its ruined for us.
Hope you have more fun soon
Joe

8 Sep 2005

thanks joe, at least there are some decent ones amongst the multitudes wink

8 Sep 2005

Thats very kind of you stenrachy.
The clamour in the crowd always smacks of desperation and I have always thought that dogging is by its very nature so random that is should be the last thing prescribed for desperation.
I promise I will shut up now.

8 Sep 2005

we have just posted a reply in (why do men spoil it for themselfs)but again we agree with you,we have stopped dogging because of this childish behaviour.

8 Sep 2005

Isnt a clamouring crowd part of the fun ?? I mean I understand that its bad if the guys behave badly , but It always strikes me as odd when people complain about only wanting one polite dogger , then arrange meets with someone they have 'got to know' . Why not just meet them in a hotel or at home and leave the dogging to people who want the thrill and the excitement of not knowing exactly what will happen ?

9 Sep 2005

Thanks for the input Silk and big G but i think your wrong redface

, i think its a matter of peoples own preferances, we would never criticise anyone for going lookin for what they want and feel that everybodys dogging ideals are different.
some like big groups, some like single men, some like people to join in,others like to be watch, again personal preferance. we like to keep ourselves safe so choose to drive away from big groups that look, and at times, act very stupidly.....
Dogging, and indeed swinging, by its very essence, is about freedom and choice and we are not what you call "normal" doggers, but is anyone normal these days lol

:lol:

9 Sep 2005

Oh im with you there guys . We arent disagreeing at all with that . Its all about personal preference . However what we see here all too often is people moaning and complaining about all the things that make dogging what it is . The spontaneous elements , the unexpected the fact that its dirty and sometimes tacky and that its strangers who you cannot predict . What I was suggesting is that it is pointless taking part in something and then trying to change it with rules and regulations into what you want it to be - that simply makes it something else . Dogging is what it is .........always will be , and no amount of rules or moaning or organising will make it into anything else . So the answer I guess is , if some couples dont like it , then they should try something they do like , exercising their right to personal choice .
Peace