Do any of you doggers out there use the bluetooth function on your mobile, when at dogging sites?
We would suggest that this is a more selective and less imposing way to get your point across rather than standing at a car window knob in hand.
What do others think?
Thanks Manic, as newbies, you're right it is confusing and potentially embarassing or dangerous.
Bluetooth is much safer and easier and fun, but we haven't found any others using it yet.
Dom and Roz
I have also heard of this being used for sexy chat also with people on trains, buses, bars and hotels where you might wantto remain anon to people. Never tried it myself but sounds good enough to try.
If people think it is a good idea, and it has been done to death on this forum why, isn't it used more?
was that sarcasm we sensed. lol
Well I reckon the boffin who invented bluetooth was a dogger, probably male, with dogy lights on his car!
By the way if anyone wants to know:
The best time to dog and avoid police attention, is at pub closing time on fri, sat night.
Most police excursions are purely to have a look, but at these times they can't as they have to be near town centres, in case their friends are in public order situations.
i like it when i can answers questions in a positive way - yes i do have bluetooth on my phone - no what do i do??????
O.K. Paul,
1. Go to bluetooth settings and give your phone a name, Pumapaul etc. make sure it is visable.
2. Set up you message, like male for watch, etc as a telephone contact in your phone.
Then try to send this phone contact/ message via bluetooth.
Your phone will then search roughly a 100metre radius for other phones, but only if they have their bluetooth function on.
3. Other's phone names will appear on your phone and you can send them messeges, pics and videos of yourself you have just recorded.
One, you make a new phone book entry. Say: PUMA69, store it.
Two, you go to that entry and (on my motorola) go to the menu item SEND.
Enter that, and then enter on BLUETOOTH.
Go down the menu that comes up and click on LOOK FOR DEVICES, then wait.
The phone searches for bluetooth devices within range and lists them.
Click on a device name and it will send your selected phone book entry to the other phone.
You can change the "name" of your phone from MOTOROLA V600 to, for instance, PUMAS' V600, and leave your phone number to be found as well, if you're certifiable and very trusting with it.
Downside, anyone with bluetooth can search for an enabled phone in the area, and then wait for you to read the new entry you've received....where you will be identified by your display lighting up..
If you don't do it right, they'll have your mobile number. Bad.
Another thing to think about. If there is a significant crime in the area the police will request from the mobile providers a list of mobiles in that area within the specified times. Every mobile maintains contact with the network it is registered to at all times, and you ** CAN ** be followed by that contact.
Don't believe me ?
How you think your phone "knows" the nearest ATM ?
It doesn't. The network knows your location to within a 100 metre square.
Take a tip. MOBILE OFF ON SITE, and for a distance to and from....
There is absolutely no need for others bluetooth users, to know you telephone number when doing this.
Secondly for the police to ask mobile phone companies for mobile phones in a particular area, this costs them 5 thousand pound per phone and is only allowed to be done to triangulate the location of a phone. Not give out a persons details.
Thirdly this triangulation can be done on any phone that is turned on, whether bluetooth is on or not.
What you said JOMU is wrong.
Well Jomu isnt always right LOLOL . Not sure about the technical aspects really , my blue tooth headset runs out after about feckin half an hour , and thats when it stay connected at all .
So the scenario is what ? Youre in a dogging spot , yer lady is all greased and sussied up sat in the shotgun side showing decent leggage . You are sat next to her and have snapped on the interior light a couple of times , the carpark contains several suspicious lookin fellas smokin and glancin in your general direction . Then you flip open yer Ericsson and try and find doggers by bluetooth ?
FFS!
I am digitally and in every other way speechless , someone send him a text and Xpln its all bllx.
TCH !
G
:laughabove: ....i'd be pissed off if we kept getting disturbed by the phone when trying to play! if folk want you to watch, they will make it plainly obvious.
obviously the idea is unecessary for established doggers, and moderators. However for newbies as I earlier stated it is an easier and safer way to advertise. Not everyone has the connections you do.
Please don't poopoo the idea because I'm sure there are many who would find it helpful.
Poo Poo the idea . Perish the thought , General Melchet would turn in his grave !
baaaaaah! lol silk and big G
Redhot I am not saying it is impossible to dog without using a phone. It is not impossible to do it without t'internet either, but if it improves dogging and reduces embarassing situations, why not?
I mean, back in the good old days, is was all done with horse and carriage. One tap of the stallion's hide and whalebone corsets went flying.
Hello.....5 thousand quid ?
Which planet are you on ?
MY COMPANY USED THIS TECHNOLOGY TO KEEP TRACK OF THEIR VANS...
"You can't be with your loved ones every minute of every day, but with mapAmobile you'll always know where they are. That's because as long as they're carrying an active mobile phone we can use network technology to tell you their location anywhere in the UK - and you don't have to call or text to find out. Which means freedom for them and total peace of mind for you."
And that's for Mr Joe Bloggs, or Ms Josephine Bloggs !
As for the law...............................
Try reading the Regulation of Investigatory powers act 2000
What agenda are you running ?
Dogging or mugging ?
Blimey J over two hours , thats major effort even for a top of the league pedant mate hehehehe.
Respect for the research though
Jomu,
A R.I.P.A application to aquire a person's mobile phone details, from a known number can be made to investigate a "Serious Arrestable Offence" as defined by P.A.C.E 1984. i.e. , muder, etc.
Therefore IF* the police know a particular number, they can if in the investigation of the above apply for details of account holder. Or if in circumstances such as kidnapping or missing persons etc. triangulate a known phone to 100metres as you say.
Do you actually think that if a crime happens in an area, the mobile phone companies store details of where every mobile phone switched on is at all times all day in the country?
If they did which they don't and a serious crime has happened and you were in the area potentially in a position to help the inquiry, would you not?
Don't be facetious
Following a at a country park, a local dogging site, I had the law phone me up ONE DAY LATER to ask me if I had been there, as they had got my phone number from Orange as having made a call at that time, from that location.
The system works.
What's your agenda ?
Is your car registered with the DVLA?
Don't be dumb.
My car never goes into that site...
They knew the number I had called.
Operators eager for safeguards on tracking
Mobile phone operators are today hoping to finalise a draft code designed to prevent abuse of the latest tracking technology.
Mobile phone groups already track all users to comply with demands for information from the police. But, with the launch of services allowing employers to track users, operators are keen to introduce safeguards to head off legislation.
Under the proposals, employers using location-based services will have to inform and get the consent of staff before employees can be tracked. But there are concerns some people will agree to the measure out of fear of losing their jobs. The technology is important to companies with mobile staff, such as sales forces.
Child protection groups are threatening to boycott the draft industry code, insisting the proposed safeguards do not go far enough. The likely revolt looks set to undermine the launch of location services aimed at concerned parents looking to keep track of their children.
Children's charity groups have complained the proposed protections do not provide enough safeguards for minors, leaving them open to abuse from paedophiles.
Only users of adult-oriented location-based services such as mobile dating will need to go through an age and address authentification process before they can sign up. For many "locate a friend" services, the person doing the tracking will be able to maintain their anonymity. Mobile phone users who are being tracked will simply need to give their consent by responding to an unsolicited text message.
Jon Carr, Internet director at children's charity NCH, said: "A child will not necessarily understand the consequences of responding to a text. A just has to go to that area and ring a number and wait for the child to answer. Locating a friend, if not done with full user verification, blows a hole through all the good things mobile operators are trying to do. We will not endorse a code that contains these inferior provisions."
The setback is likely to undermine initiatives by mobile operators to provide more location-based services.
In Japan, many users have signed up to 'buddy' services which send out alert text messages when friends enter the same area as the user. Finnish users can send location-specific text messages that will only be picked up when other users enter the same area.
Locating mobile phones is a key asset for police and was used as evidence in the Soham murder trial.
But tracking users has never been far from controversy. Last year, the government sought to extend location-based data in its departments. It was forced to back down following vigorous protest from civil liberties campaigners.
Last year, the government sought to extend location-based data in its departments. It was forced to back down following vigorous protest from civil liberties campaigners.
You have just given evidence to the contrary to your own argument!
It would have to be location based with no other cross references hence the dvla question. Please if you have any further cut and pastes let me know.
lol