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Going All The Way (or not)

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Ok, here goes, come on lads (and lasses) I need some advice/your thoughts on something. I know that similar threads have been done before, but we seem to have quite a few new 'regular' posters on here at the moment so it would be interested to see what they think (as well as comments from the 'older' regulars lol )
What do other doggers think about couples who go out dogging but dont necessarily play with the doggers? Do you think that we are a waste of your time, or we are just teases or, are you happy just watching or having the odd feel?
We just love going out dogging at weekends and as I am now getting a bit more daring, we are now getting out of the car and 'playing' in the open. I absolutely love being watched but do not necessarily always want others to join in (whether that be for a quick touch or full blown involvement!). Last night we met two fantastic guys who did not complain at not being invited to 'go all the way' but are other doggers just as considerate?
So what do you guys/girls, and even couples think about the couples who do not necessarily want to 'go all the way?'
I'm a total newbie but I'm under the impression that watching only is more liekly to happen than any action. For me, watching would be cool, I'm grateful that people would be open for me to watch you. If I had to put people like yourself under a catergory, I would go for a tease.
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do only what u feel comfy with, most will respect ure wishes but if they dont we will nock f@@@ out of em, lol xx
hi there
must admit we have not come across alot of cpls doggin unless we have aranged to meet them via the net
but when we have ive really enjoyed the shows they have put on and i hope they enjoyed mine but like people to join in with me smile
cya soon mr n mrs naughty :)
jo xxx
Thanks everyone for your replies, its good that at least some people do like it when a couple just wants to show!!!!
I am not saying that is all I want to do, but most of the time, especially with people who I dont know, that is all I am comfortable doing. I am also not saying that I wont at some point, go all the way, but I just have to feel comfortable!
And at least only one person described me as a tease, so its not too bad!!!!
Jon and I have always had participation from doggers and that's how we like it.
Whilst dogging, we've only ever seen one other couple who put on a show. Well we could hear them more than see them. They were parked across the far side of the park and she was being shagged by her fella across the bonnet of their small van.
They had about three or four watchers, but as we drove in the guys who knew us came over to our car - knowing they would get more than a look with us :twisted:
We have only ever encountered one dogger who did not want to join in with us. He was quite a young guy and said he would rather just watch and have a wank because he was newly married and didn't want to deceive his wife :shock:
Not quite sure if she knew he was out dogging or perhaps thought he was down the local with his mates dunno
I wouldn't consider *showing only* couples are time wasters. Each to his/her own :twisted:
Tracy-Jayne
Well as a single guy, been around for a number of years on and off my view is this.
It all really depends on what the couple wants.
The most important thing here is that they are comfortable with whatever takes place. There has been an occasion when the guy has been more pushy, asking his woman to become more active with me when it is clear from looking into her eyes that she is really uncomfortable. On that occasion, I politely left. It must be that both both parties want interaction.
Obvioulsy if I know the woman wants interaction, then that is wonderful - you can normally tell from the eyes.
Bottom line
I am there to watch - and I am grateful that the couple want to show me. If it goes any further then all well and good as long as everyone is happy for things to progress.
I agree with everything manolishi has said - pateince and being polite is also something couples would love as well
Only do what you are comfortable with, is the golden rule!
We are a couple that go dogging fairly regularly. Sometimes we go out and visit a couple of venue's and not do anything at all Either because the guys are pushy, there are too many guys there, the police have been in or there are cars full of teenagers.
Another time we will put on a show and wind down the window. Let the guys join in, with me still in the car and on the odd occassion we have got out of the car and played fully. So really it depends on the situation presented and how we both feel.
Luv
Mark and Suexx
What a couple do or don't do is totally up to them, like the lady says "I like a good show2"!! I know my situation is a bit different as joining in potentially has wider connotations.......but how can you not love to watch?? biggrin
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Hi =)
I love to watch or join in
it is totally down to the couple if they want to play thats ok if they want be
watched thats ok too
Ijust love it gimme more
MrT
our dogging strategies vary according to circumstance..for example, at our home ground, during the week, we are usually up for a show, which comprises of the master and myself setting about mrs dirty, as it will usually be quieter, often we will allow the guys to get a little more intimate. mrs dirty has carte-blache to indulge herself, but rarely goes all the way.
......saturday nights are different in that the numbers are often overwhelming..we also know many of the locals, so, much to the disgust of the residents, saturdays become an almost social night, where we may get to see a show, chat with our mates and take in the atmosphere. we are usually quick to tell visitors that we aren't playing, if they then choose to hang around us, its their will also be the night when some of the pushier types are around, having lost interest in us long ago, they will usually vent their frustration by tipping newcomers off that we are a waste of time, occassionally quite vocally..its our time of learning !!
........another scenario would be our away visits, where our show record tends to be 100 percent..it matters not to us how many are in, or their attitude..we park up, start to play, then hit the light..if its a large turnout, the show is short, then we leave..if its quiet, we may have a natter afterwards, if the guys are polite, we'll put the window down or open the door, they can then get a little more intimate..
.....it may sound arrogant to say, but we don't have to play to anyone else's of the guys accept that as a couple, we are icing on a very boring bun..what we do for an audience is " show sex", yes its horny, erotic and above all, , it is manufactured for the viewers..the positions are choreographed for impact and clarity of viewing, the clothes are chosen for their voyuer appeal..we only ask of the audience or players that they enjoy our contribution as much as we enjoy giving it..for those that don't, we look at it as their loss..we have been playing long enough now to know that the majority approve..
......for show couples that worry that showing isnt enough, remember that guys throughout history have paid good money to watch lap-dancers or strippers give far less than we do for free..there is a huge demand..of course many will want more, but will be satisfied with less..there are many couples out there that will help them out....of course there are those that will judge you relative to your level of involvement, affording higher status to girls that fuck, but then they would, wouldn't they?.why worry about it..
.......then, as in the case cited by redhot, there are the unthinking doggers that will abandon a show couple for a better reward, not stopping to consider the showing girl's feelings in their desperate race to unload..not the playing couple's fault at all, but a real insight into the lack of sensitivity among some doggers..i watched a female duck this morning, whilst 8 males nearly drowned her in attempting to mate, every time i chased them off, she fled for her life, only to be assulted again further down the river..walking past the same spot this afternoon, i found her lying dead on the riverbank..if i sound a little anti sex fuelled parasitic male at the moment, thats the reason why.
.......recently at a venue we know of, a young lady enjoyed almost exclusive attention from the residents..then something happened, competition arrived..naturally the guys were curious about the newcomers, and the emphasis shifted away from the veteran couple..pretty soon it became a then and us situation amongst them, each having their own end of the carpark..guys would go to one couple, and say the sex was inferior with the other girl, it descended into a points system, where bj's were scored out of ten..the guys were having a field day, getting blown and fucked left right and centre, all for what, ego..the girls were giving more and more of themselves in order to feel superior to the rival, even getting to the point where the moans and groans escallated in volume, in some ridiculous vocal trade-off..designed to gain the larger audience..one girl started having bareback anal sex in order to assertain victory, she had no shortage of company..many of the guys spoke of the girls with contempt, but would gladly accept their favours.
........that isn't meant to sound anti male player, there are many respectfull ones in the game, but the greater proportion of insesitive doggers are in that sector..it is frustrating for a couple who want involvement, but the available dogger doesn't want to decieve his wife, but there is also something sweet and innocent about his wives i feel for are the ones who's husbands are going to shag them, having just gone bareback up a gang-bangers are usually the ones that will call you timewasters for not playing..do you need to lose sleep over that?
........just to add, "the master" is the most respectfull dogger i know, he is also a player..some of our best dogging buddies are gang-bangers..we haven't got issues with either party..just our take on some insensitive and egotistical attitudes displayed by some guys and couples..all present company excepted of course.
ok ive voted and i voted for the im happy to watch a show (altho i do play when asked). least i think thats what its called after reading mr ds mamouth reply wink i take the attitude that the couple are in total controll of the events that they want to happen, if they want you to touch they WILL ASK YOU TOO, plus i love a good show its very erotic in my mind.
ok my little input to the thread has finished biggrin
Thank you so very much for your really helpful, thoughtful and interesting replies. It has certainly given me more to think about!
I do enjoy having a play when I am out, but only if I know the guys I am playing with. I need to feel that I can trust the person I am playing with and if I do feel safe, then who knows! At least I now know that I am not the only one who only wants to play and show and that some of the guys and girls out there do not automatically expect me to go all the way and have full penatrive sex with them. Maybe things would be different if I was not always looking over my shoulder to see if Mr Plod has arrived!!!! Maybe I also need to deal with a few other 'hidden' fears around the what ifs .... what if the police catch me, what if he doesnt enjoy it, what if the condom bursts etc etc etc.
I must say special thanks to Mr D (as always) and to Gurl, really appreciate your comments and the remarks from Serendipity, Mr T, Magictongue, Jo etc etc and as always, special thanks to RedHot, (Just wish I could be as open and honest as you - really admire you for that) will definately stick in my mind!
At some point I would like to take things further when out dogging but only I will know when the time and situation is right. At the moment I am just going to carry on doing what I am doing and making sure I enjoy every last minute of it!
Roll On Weekend!
let me just add, singledogger is one of the good guys, we know him well..and naughtywigan, wanna fuck? :twisted: :twisted:
Singledogger, sorry I missed you out of the Thank You's, hope you accept my apology!
And Mr D smackbottom
i'll take that as a no then wigan me ole sweetheart..how many bloody posts do i have to make before i can get a shag here?
why thanks mr d for the kind words (aint got a clue who he is lol :lol: :lol: ) only had the pleasure of meeting the dirtys and you lot dont know what you are missing, great people.
take his offer wigan poor blokes gagging rolleyes
yes i accept ur apology wigan mwahhhhhhhhhh ( if ya shag me too) :lol:
Just wait Mr D and SingleDogger, once I get my full 'Dogging Certificate' I will show you :twisted:
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Call off the search parties !!!
Serendipity has returned.
Evidently locked herself in the stationery cupboard at work...... again

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I hate it when that happens, so embarrasing! wink I've come back to some good discussions though, interesting as always and Dirty has clearly been a roll for several days!
Mrs Naughty, I'm saying what you already know, don't go at anyone's pace but your own....if you're not getting what YOU and Mr Naughty want from it then there's no point. What the doggers get to see and do or not isn't in our power....we can accept what's
offered or not, a very simple choice imo! There's no ombudsman for dogging to complain to about show only and you can't be done by Trades Description! (not til someone thinks up Dogging Tax anyway) lol
Well said Serendipity smile
You only have to do what you are happy with and do it to who you are happy with its that simple lol
wink :wink:
T & G XXXX
Mrs Naughty whats this certificate your on about ?
Is that the one that tells us YOUR BARKING MAD pmsl
I Know ill get my pants down for a good spanking !
xxxx Muffin
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well scubajon, i'll say this about that post of ours, it was bloody long wasn't it? i frighten myself sometimes, i dont know what i've written untill i read it back, sort of a jackson pollock of the dogging board, throw it together in an altered stare of consciousness and hope it strikes a chord with someone after the event.
...as for you not being able to watch us show, on account of you being in the north, what sort of excuse is that?. lol :lol: ..ta for the nice comment though, appreciate it.
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rabbit rabbit rabbit comes to mind mr d lol :lol: hes bloody worse when you meet him :lol: its ok folks he knows me and knows im kidding (i think)so no need to feed back on this my sence of humor.
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rabbit rabbit rabbit comes to mind mr d lol :lol: hes bloody worse when you meet him :lol: its ok folks he knows me and knows im kidding (i think)so no need to feed back on this my sence of humor.

..just returned from the builders merchants with a box of ear defenders for the lads :fuckinghell: mrs dirty has always said, if my knob was as big as my gob, i'd be far more usefull to her. :cry: :cry: so your sentiments are shared, which is why i'm not allowed to open the window when we are visiting venues off our home turf :lol:
it turns me on just as much watchin as it does joinin in, keep up the good live shows ppl