Hmm well I suppose it is a kind of evolution , but change isnt always good. Mr DD is right of course many of the 'doggers' who frequent sites now come expecting sexual participation . In our opinion that is a shame , because it often makes what was dogging nothing more than an organised gang bang in an outdoor setting . Those that know us will know that were not ones for precise definitions when it comes to having fun , and we see absolutely nothing wrong with organising meetings and setting your rules and parameters beforehand . That said if that is how you do it , it simply isnt what we would describe as dogging at all , and as such it isnt really as much fun for our tastes.
If we wanted to pre-arrange things and get to know people beforehand then we would go to a nice comfortable club or meet at home or a hotel . For us the thrill is the anonimity and to be truthful we believe that is exactly what made dogging appealing in the first place way back when the participants were less 'clued up ' to what it was supposed to be . Sadly there are hundreds of people constantly trying to standardise , regulate and organise something which is intrinsically spur of the moment and chance , and inevitably that will lead to the eventual dissapearance of the original outlook on the whole scenario (call that evolution if you like) .
Were not ones to ever slag off doggers , as I see it that without a supply of voyeurs then exhibtionists are lost for kicks so were all equals in this . Trouble is we dont act like were doing any doggers a favour showing , but sometimes these days it feels like they act like theyre doing us a favour watching . As stated above " just watching this , its only a show but it'll do til someone better comes in " . What the thousands of novice doggers dont know that old school like Jomu do know is most of the ladies who take on the whole carpark , once upon a time used to just do a show , and they slowly and erotically worked their way up to the levels of contact they allow . Of course many potential 'join inners' will go once to a site and never return having been insulted by " its only a show" comments , or by doggers walking away half way through .
Its all about expectations , basic manners and frankly selfishness . Its unfortunate that genuine voyeurs arent as common as people think - and that many of the doggers circulating these days dont have any sexual subtlety or are so ignorant of what real eroticism and sensuality are about. My bet would be the same wham bam thankyou maam attitude is the real reason they end up looking for BJ's in a car park in the first place , instead of a genuine interest in the subtle and electric thrills of a slow teasing work up to a crescendo whether it be show or join in .
Carparks like life contain a great many more shite lovers than good ones , and the quick wankers are far far more common. Its a shame that the 'evolution' mentioned is one that leads away from something so sensual and fun , and towards something so base and shallow . Dont get us wrong base and shallow is ok , but it has a very limited boredom shelf life , whereas facinating surprising and mysteriously intriguing will last you a sexual lifetime .
Peace x
Respect right backatcha mate , I am not shocked that you agree as both Silk and I sense kindred spirits in you guys . You know what it doesnt matter what the fuck you do in life it always feels better if you relax and do it !
That said I am not judgemental normally , but .......German Wine !!!!! ? The headache serves you right , and each throb in the A.M light will remind you of those who fought and died so that our children need not be exposed to under fermented grape !
Sleep Peacefully Mate
Porn pop-ups ?
Tried adaware ?
Works wonders for infiltrating ads.
As for doggers.....
Heard loads of comments from people who have been in the game for a year or two, I've been in it for over 30 years....never mind the newly involved "moral" doggers.....(joke)....doggers is the name peeping toms gave themselves.....hi-jacked by those who want a name for themselves as they shag their way through nameless women.....as Mr G says.....it's more fun watching a GOOD show than having a poor shag from someone who's had the rest of the team before you...
Anyway, those who "do" 2mile in norfolk....you remember penny ?
She used to do the place on saturday night....with her old man....someone said tonight that one of them had died....does anyone know which ?
Following in on from the words of Mr DD and Silk and Big G, I am now going to make a complete turnaround of everything I have ever said about dogging and pre-arranged meets.
We do not do the pre-arranged meet stuff, we enjoy the mysticism of going out and not knowing if anyone will be around. My dogging fun starts about 2 hours before we actually leave the house, the getting ready, deciding what to wear, then the drive to the chosen location, will there be anyone around, etc etc etc. However, my thoughts on this are now starting to change and both myself and Mr NWC are thinking of ‘giving up’ dogging as we know it.
Last night we decided to visit a new place, which we had been told about by a guy on here. As we approached the place we noticed the police were sat nearby so we drove straight past, didn’t want to even bother with it. We then moved to another place we had heard about. Pulled into the car park, only one car there, perfect! We parked at the other end of the car park and made the mistake of not ensuring our interior light had been turned off, so when we stopped the engine, we lit the car up! Talk about moths round a candle! Within two minutes we had four cars parked with feet of us 9dont even know where three of them had come from) and a bloke with a dog (?) who had arrived on foot. Anyway we decided to move on and find somewhere a little quieter.
We went to our usual venue to find everyone leaving just as we drove in. Now I had had a shower before we left, so it wasn’t me that smelled! One guy stopped and told us the police were in the car park and were asking everyone to leave. So we also left. We went back an hour later to find that the police had been a little heavy handed with some of the guys, sitting them in the back of the police cars and questioning them about what they were doing there, taking their details etc. Now no-one was actually breaking any laws and therefore no-one was actually charged with anything but that’s not the point. We just don’t want to have to have any involvement with the police.
We ended up coming home without having any fun. This morning I have received a pm from one of the true ‘gentlemen’ doggers who tells me the police turned up again about 10 minutes after we left. They had some more guys in the back of the police car and were questioning them again! Don’t know what happened cause the person concerned had the sense to leave while he could.
So what I am actually getting at, is that dogging as we know it, is now getting harder and harder to find. If we do go out, most guys automatically presume they will be asked to join and in, and when they aren’t asked or allowed, they make some comments about it ‘only being a show, waste of bloody If the guys are happy with a show, and lots of guys are still happy with this, then we get surrounded by police!
Maybe pre-arranged meets are the way to go. We are seriously thinking of putting on an advert in the next couple of weeks and arranging something at a place which is not normally used for dogging. Ok, I know we could just go to these places on our own, but as they are not used for dogging, then we wouldn’t get dogged!
Maybe the Internet has impacted on dogging, along with the newspapers, by bringing to the notice of people who would not have known about it before. But maybe we can also use the Internet for our own good and use it to advertise for the people we want to see/meet, and set the ground rules first!
Sorry if I am being very hypocritical here and going back on everything I have ever said in the past about pre-arranged meets, but dogging as evolved whether it be for the better or not, and maybe I/we need to change our tactics and evolve also!
Hi gang
Had it not been for the internet I would still be totally unaware of where dogging went on and would have missed some great nights, both those where fun took place and those where we just all chat and fall about laughing.
I have also learnt much from the forums on here, and realise that you are guaranteed nothing, but I find being polite and chatting does you no harm. It still amazes me when you hear stories of people trying to open doors.
Have fun all.
Regards
Harry Jones
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Just got in, and a last check of this site before sleep...
I don't do arranged, which means the inet is useful for seeing what is going on...and how others are doing.
Yes, the sites are full of chancers....but they go home at ten.....and then fun starts...
I'd like to thank the young woman (and her guy) for tonights fun times.
Very young, early twenties.
Tall, long legs,, nice little breasts....shaven...(did I say long legs ?)...really tasty bum...and definitely tasty breasts.....red pvc basque with pvc thigh boots....
Yes, they keep on coming....in spite of the wasters and law.
LONG LIVE DOGGING
seems less of the genuine thing of a few years ago
in some ways it was a sort of underground thing in the late 90s and now the internet
tabloid newspapers and a certain footballer have got it bad/adverse publicity that has attracted lilly livered liberals onto their soapboxs
also unfortunately the yob culture of hunting down and spoiling otners fun is all to prevalent today also
As I have mentioned earlier,the place I go is not mentioned on here,it is also well away from any built up areas and the police only occasionally turn up and thats not at weekends because its so far away from their standard patch that if trouble occurred in their local town centre it would take them too long to get back there,Yes you still get the odd boy racer types but on the whole a great spot and many fun times have been had,I suppose I'm lucky to have this place within a reasonable distance from my home,a pre-arranged meet would take the anonymity out of dogging which is the fun part of it,for me anyway.
Hi,, Memory Lane and how we got into dogging.
26 years ago as a courting couple, we were in broxbourne woods fumbling in the back of an old jag with steamed up windows, making the springs creak, when someone was really trying hard to wipe off the condensation(which was on the inside...doh). It scared the life out of us, we didn't even think that anybody would want to watch, it never crossed our minds! we quickly pulled our cloths on jumped over the seat and drove off still half dressed!
when we got home well K's house we talked about it and gradually opening up to each other found it a real turn on, great quick frantic sex followed!
so we found out that epping forest was the place to be. The carparks were very busy especially at weekend quite often full, mainly with couples, somtimes two couples in a car and the odd single guy! somtimes the police came in lights all on and over the tanoy "come on ladies and gents haven't you got a home to go to" and then off they went. with some funny sights in their headlights,
we have carried on getting a thrill out of it because our freeedom is impaired by our adult children still at home! well thats our excuse, we will have to think up a new one when they all leave home
this is the xxxxxxxxxxxx who keeps trying to add me on messenger without having the decency to ask and after being told several times i`m not interested in him still keeps trying he`s on iggy list now but just cant believe he`s the one saying about people having the patience and decency to wait. anyway he`s a young pup at this dogging lark hubby 24yr man and still enjoys it
Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this post?
I think the affect the internet has had is that people can google dogging and find out where it goes on, they turn up, think they are going to shag a page 3 model and leave.
When the footballer got caught dogging a few years ago that was the worst thing that happend to dogging, everybody went mad for it!!.
It has become harder to find any dogging in our area not affected by the boy racer element ,and those who think it amusing to do the light signals etc then shower you with abuse or worse if you are daft enough to fall for it, of course this sort of behaviour is overlooked by the police(better in out of waycar parks than having to deal with it!) but heaven help you if you are consenting adults having a bit of fun, standard moan i know but double standards get up my nose. Having read the posts in this section and seen the behaviour of some people who arrive at locations i am not surprised people use sites to meet and go else where but it is not really dogging in the old style, as we all used to enjoy !. I never have gone to sites expecting to join in, just been allowed to watch was part of the fun and always stepped away when asked. Maybe it is time we brought back some old style courtesy to the dogging scene and thought of a way to deal with the "oiks" who are spoiling everyones fun
I started this off in april 2005 and its still going. It does appear that dogging has been affected by the internet, in such that it has opened quite a private activity to the general public. I have friends who say that their kids talk about it in school which is something i find appaling. This has been going on for a very long time in guise or another and has evolved over the years. I do feel now that arranged meets are more the norm although the reason why alot of people got into dogging was the apprehension that someone may be looking or a couple may want you to watch etc. If pre arranged meets become the norm then its not a problem as far as i see it however it may change the people that go. I know doggers who don't want to be seen by the people that they are watching, some go to such extremes as night vision kit and wearing dark clothes and crawling around as to not be seen.
its in a big box with internet explorer written on it, and it only attacks me whilst on this site..i ran the spyware prog, and it said it was clean..did the virus thing, and it clean one infected file..once online, its fine, but until then, no matter how i try and open aol, it doesn't respond...exept of course when it does, if you know what i mean...
. I told it as it was and according to reddog still is. I basically agree with reddog and dirtydoggers that the way times have changed has lead to increased expectancy "yesterday a glimps of stocking was looked on as something shocking now heaven knows anything goes" etc as the song goes. So back to the inital question...... from the posts I have read it seems it all depends on who you are and where you are coming from. If you are simply expecting to watch as a pimper then possibly having an organised meet is a lot safer as everyone knows the rules. If the pimper wants to participate then it depends on the couples concerned. It seems that some like to be talked to and respected for the shows they put on while others believe that it is nobody elses business apart from their own and don't want to make any contact what so ever. If this is the case then No the internet has not spoilt things it has changed things sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse. Like most things in life not many of us like change but change happens as does new technology as does ones perception of morals and expectations 
Erm, watch this space and I will let you know 
