Without meaning to beat a dead donkey, I had been, until recently, a rookie dogging fan, keen on the idea, but not entirely sure where to go due to the threat of arrest etc.
However, I met an amazingly helpful couple on another site (won't advertise, i know the rules). After talking for a couple of weeks online, they let me know of a place in the Greater Manc area they know to be safe. We arranged a meet, and I have to agree and disagree about the youth of today being used to porn etc.
It was one of the greatest thrills of my life, despite a small disapointment about me not being asked to join in (well i am young and male, give me that much), I was more than happy to watch them, indeed I probably got a bigger thrill from not participating!
I suppose what I'm trying to say is, that I agree that most of the younger and newer doggers arent really dogging, all a few of them/us need is a good rollicking about what it actually is, and maybe we can get things back on track for everyone
i know big g is a moderator and all that however myself and the other posters are not moaning i feel we are trying to hark back to better times. these times were only a few years back maybe three or four years gone by. i totaly disagree that because we want to buck the trend and aspire to dogging how it used to be. then we should ship out. i suppose when hitler was killing the jews it would have been easier for the people who disented to ship out however we like them are made of sterner stuff and will strive for dogging like it used to be. as one of the last posters stated the thrill of waiting is probably the best part.
in conclusion, i think that we all agree that dogging is done in the great outdoors, not online. so if you want to join the fun, you'll have to leave the computer screen and go out.....
That one sentence says it all welll said funcouple_gd you just have to have patience and RESPECT
I take your point i was a tad over reaching with my comparisons. Sorry however i was only trying to emphasize the previous comments of get rid of all the moaners attitude.
I hope this forum is non judgemental and listens to all views with equal weight.
You don't need luck, you don't need the internet, you don't need "appointments"..............what you need is time and patience...........if you ain't there, you'll see nothing.
Goo sites share the same basic things.......few are in the middle of housing estates, none in or near "problem" estates. Few have multi-kilowatt lighting towers, most are nice and dark. Practically all are also used for gay cruising and none are in front of police stations (although a few are just down the road from same)
The good ones have a bumpy surface, all the better for ruining the suspension of the bo'racing team.
Sneaky car parks, loads of bushes, rough driving and warm weather....my mouths starting to water....gotta go....
byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..................
That has got me going as well jomu
LOLOLOLOL !!!!
Not only wouldnt i be a moderator ( dont have the self control and dont like the pay and holiday structure) but I dont think they would dream of asking me ( proper giggling here)
Sorry I was tired and didnt make meself clear . I wasnt having a go at the first six posters at all , when I said " 6 post dickwad " I was referring to the amount of posts and the subject of the posts from the original whinger who posted and no one else . Sorry if I got anyones goat up ....you know thats not like me at all !
Peace
G
Thanks G as ever your wisdom is awe inspiring
I think the net/publicity has definately had an impact. We used to frequent M25 jct10 now closed. Bournemouth - one closed and the other seems to have a resident police car. This weekend we found out that our favourite hill near Portsmouth is about to be locked at night.
We now tend to cruise the smaller car parks in theNew Forest and we usually find someone to play with although it's a long time since we found another couple this way.
We now do not tell anyone about the places we go until we are sure they are genuine and usually agree to meet up a a know spot and then move on to our places.
Obviously if you do not want unwanted attention then DO NOT broadcast the locations to all and sundry.
I am now getting old but for the last 40 years I have enjoyed the sight of couples "putting on a show" and believe me it hasn't changed much. We "pimpers" as we used to be called really enjoyed the thril of the chase as well as the the actual action. I have been chased, beaten up, follwed to where they thought I lived and then knocked on the front door presumably to tell the wife. The real decline came when girls started to live on their own and could invite who they wanted back to their place. It went further down hill when the turfing out time of the pubs changed from 10:30 as you would always get the couples getting horny in the pub rushing down to the local site and then going back to join the clubs. Obviously a lot of men can now get their kicks from the internet as it saves getting cold and removes the possiblity of honging around all day or night and not seeing anything. In many ways its more open now although I am still very very wary of approaching couples just in case it is a trap to beat me up again and I can't run as fast as I used too! (lol) So perhaps the internet does have its place. It means that I can arrange a meeting with a geniune couple and not have to be too worried about others finding out and telling the wife.
Hi Triedandtested, welcome to the site, and I echo everything Dirty has said above. It would be great to 'listen' to some of your stories, and tales of fun, so please, carry on posting becuase you already seem to have a fan club!
You do make some interesting points about using the Internet and I can see why people would want to go down that line. The reason we have not done this is mainly because we are a showing couple and we did advertise once for single males. Two of the replies were really nice and they guys said they were looking forward to seeing a show, but the remainder just sent 'dirty' pms saying what they wanted to do to me! So meeting these guys and just putting on a show did not seem appropriate. My personal feeling is that the guys 'appear' to think more is on offer when you place an ad, and rather than disapoint by not offering them a quickie in the back of the car, I would rather just go out and hope that there are some decent blokes out there. Of course I may be completely wrong, but at the moment we are comfortable with this.
I have already said my thoughts on the Internet, and I really do think it has its place. The Internet has not ruined dogging, its just a small percentage of the people who use it.
Anyway really looking forward to your next post!
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:shock: being shot at is no fun in any walk of life....still it didn't stop you though did it. now thats a dedicated fellow who deserves a show!
This thread kinda confirms some theories I had , had about the genesis of dogging . Truth is alot of what the old doggers seem to remember fondly as great shows were more often back then straight forward peeping tom sessions . Im sure since cars were invented they have been used for shagging , especially in less enlightened time when folk had less convenient places to go otherwise. Of course there have also always been fellas who were prepared to watch them do the do in the back seat . Whether I would call that dogging is another matter though , i would suggest the crawling through bushes , comoflage outfits and the actual building of a "hide" would probably indicate the " showers " being less participants and more victims in many cases .
Of course the real illicit thrill of dogging comes from knowing that the folk involved want to be watched , and im not saying it didnt ever happen , but it doesnt sound like it was the norm . So perhaps many of the heady days of dogging remembered here are tinged with more than a tad of fantasy , and some are mixing dogging with being a voyeur of unaware couples ...............Im reliably informed some one who sneaks up on an unaware couple is known in dogging circles as a " creep " which seems quite apt .
.Im reliably informed some one who sneaks up on an unaware couple is known in dogging circles as a " creep " which seems quite apt .
you will be surprised how much of this activity still goes on, i know at least 4 sites in the north east were it is practiced on a nightly basis and i wouldn't be surprised if it goes on in at least a couple of sites in every county in the uk.
going back to the original post on this thread"has the internet killed dogging" no chance' its just evolving, its changing to suit modern day life' and the modern day dogger is no different from me who has been in the game 8 years or triedandtested(40) he's after the same goal' if he wasn't that way inclined he wouldn't do it.
mr dirty often mentions the word "craft, but like most proffesions and way of life "craft, has been replaced by technoligy (the push of a button) and now sadly it is happening with dogging.
as i have already said in a earlier post on this subject.. the internet can be used for private meets in unknown locations with people who you know a little about and what they look like and what they want' and that must be more safer for both parties involved,
if your a cpl i leave you this question?..would you prefer to meet me..say this weekend if you got too know a bit about me through the inet ie msn,pics,mobile chat, in general using the modern day way of dogging' or would you have liked too encounter me 8 years ago when i first started..well the first year anyway as some would call me a....creep..i know which one i'd choose.
I am sorry but I think it bang out of order for any male to ask a couple "is she playing yet" or "is she up for fucking". If a couple give signals that they want to be watched that is how it should stay until or if you are ever asked if you would like to join in. If you are asked then fair enough but if you are not you should never assume you have a right to join in and be just happy with a "show" and then politely walk away after.
What an interesting read with so many different angles! I have not been into the scene for long (unlike my boyf) but we always advertise for couples only ( no offence single guys) because on every dogging outing every single man has been pushy and intimidating and acted like they have the right to do whatever they want to get their thrill regardless of what floats our boat - thats not to say u r all like that guys, we have probably just been unlucky - i think a lot of these guys wouldnt be at the venues if it wasnt for the internet and have ruined it for the 'good' guys. Sometimes we sit and chat for a while first and there is always some prick who flashes his lights about 50 times (obviously getting very frustrated - how dare we keep him waiting) so my boyf gets the hump and is like if u think putting on a show for u now mate u r wrong, then u get followed when u leave - the more they do it the more it winds u up and the more u want nothing to do with them. We went to a club same thing (but regulars said it was bad night and they werent behaving right) if we walked to the bar from the seating area a pack of hungry wolfs were close in pursuit - 2 paces or so - so the long and the short of it is - for us anyway - please dont get in our faces like its ur god given right to do whatever u want - its not and u only piss us off and makes us go elsewhere! hope no one takes offence just expressing my opinion
Yeah..............
Each to their own....................
As I've said to many guys.....if you're into morals, go to church and don't come to a carpark.
If there are a load of guys about a car...and a show, all you have to do to lose them is say: "seen them before mate...they only show, no action at all".....bye-bye to most of the crowd...most go at about 2230z anyway....gotta be home after a "drink with the guys"...back in for a while...the sar afternoon show is over....and bath ready for a long night...may go down norfolk way...and play with a blue light on my cars roof...that always gets them going....but not at 2mile....they'd all ignore it anyway ! (in any case, I haven't had enough time to prepare myself for the unbridled depravity and high-speed immorality there yet...it needs a weeks hard reading of total filth and several (rock) hard porn dvds' for that....)