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Is This Dogging Thing Really Real?

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I have a point to get across! I dont see any couples or women giving any single nice guys a chance because they just like to say "yes we can meet up with you" and dont even turn up, well just for the record not every single guy is a purv and a sleezy git that says hes gonna do something and then do the oppisite. Im just tired of being tagged as "another" single guy which couples wont give a chance to just because of these sad self proclaimed "swinging Single males", it makes me sick.
Ok so the couples may have been stood up a few times and may have been strung along only to find its a single male just playing with himself at the computer screen thinking to himself that he might have the smallest chance to actually meeting these people but why put all us guys in a bracket? (SINGLE GUYS SUCK?) No they dont, single sad guys do who probably arent even single.
All im asking is for the couples of this "swinging site" to give guys a chance? instead of just telling them to p*ss off, there are some nice guys out there! Think about it! The swinging community is meant to be open minded people, when i go on this chat room and forum all i see is people getting up tight and saying bad things about single guys. Too many rules, need to relax a bit!
I do not want stupid replys saying, if you dont like it puddle go and find another website, if a person cant be open on a swinging site then i dont know where they can go?
There are plenty of single guys here who don't get told to **** off Puddle.....they're all nice, chatty, friendly guys. The only ones who get slated are the ones people have bad experiences with! I can't speak for your experiences with your Let's Meet Up threads and the masturbation party post but I'm confident that single guys who participate in the Dogging section get treated fairly......I'm sure BeeBeep, ChrisinKent, TheDukeReid, Harry, Chappylad and a whole host of others can attest to that biggrin
All im saying is that stuck up people on this site (most couples and single women) are always slagging off single guys by saying their desperate???? Excuse me but isnt this a site where people meet up and have sex or watch people have sex? so if the single guys are desperate, does that not make the single women or couples desperate aswell? lets face it any couple that wants to share their partner have serious problems and will probably brake up soon when they realise that the only reason they have seeked this other sorce of sex is that they are infact bored of each other.
The fact the majority of this site are fake because the whole comunity of "Dogging" are meant to be open minded and they just simply wont give people the chance to even introduce themselves, so im sticking up for all the guys in the chat rooms and the forums because ive had enough of seeing guys like me being made to think that they are needy scum.
WE ARE ALL ON THIS SITE FOR ONE THING, MAYBE SOME OF THE COUPLES AND SINGLE FEMALES NEED TO BE TOLD THIS??
(By the way the party did go ahead and i had 10 people there, 4 women and 6 men) but i had to ask other people off another website because people kept sending stupid replies.
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All im saying is that stuck up people on this site (most couples and single women)

First you come on here saying you don't want to be tarred with the same brush as other single guys, yet you then go on to do exactly that with couples and single women rolleyes
You then come out with this little gem -
Quote by puddle
lets face it any couple that wants to share their partner have serious problems and will probably brake up soon when they realise that the only reason they have seeked this other sorce of sex is that they are infact bored of each other.

You clearly do not have the concept of swinging correct. It is the exact opposite in a relationship which far from being unstable, is totally secure and since no limits are in place, they can enjoy their fantasies together with no problems.
If people enter into swinging with problems in the first place, then yes, it may well lead them into trouble, but as a loving couple with no marital problems, they will only get enjoyment out of it.
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WE ARE ALL ON THIS SITE FOR ONE THING, MAYBE SOME OF THE COUPLES AND SINGLE FEMALES NEED TO BE TOLD THIS??

Wrong again!
Most people are here for multiple reasons, friendship, the freedom to express ourselves with like minded individuals and if in turn this leads to sexual encounters then so much the better.
You appear to think everyone is here to be used as and when other members feel like it. It is precisely because there are so many single guys, that couples can afford to be choosy whom they wish to have sex with. We don't just grab the first man that walks past confused
Plenty of single guys can attest to this site working and indeed very well, but as I've said, we don't just shag anything with a cock between it's legs. We take the time to make friends and of course this means not choosing guys who moan and insult us cool
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(By the way the party did go ahead and i had 10 people there, 4 women and 6 men) but i had to ask other people off another website because people kept sending stupid replies.

By *stupid* I take it you mean not what you were hoping to get - plenty of offers of a free shag without any friendship? I'm sorry, but we don't just *fuck and leave* on this site evil
If you're not going to join in and make friends you will never succeed on this site, so perhaps you should just stay on the *other site* which works so well for you :roll:
Tracy-Jayne
lol
When we go into a pub for a drink and find we don't like the place we leave, we don't go up to the manager and slag the place off to him. As the saying goes, different strokes for different folks. We adopt this line of thinking to most things we do.
Need we say more.
Excellent response RedHot!
As a couple that goes dogging spontaneously, I find Puddle's thread pigeonholing couples, a little sad.
We go out to fuck. It's as simple as that. We want each other and if there's an audience, well that just escalates the emotions we are experiencing. We don't tell single men to fuck off unless they got it coming and by that I mean silly PMs or Emails.
Not been a member long, but as a single guy I can say that I have never had any 'stupid' replies, nor felt as if I have been treated like a 'another single prat'.
Maybe thats because I respect all the replies I get, dont lie about myself, accept it when a woman says no, and, i think most importantly, understand that being a dogger does not mean i have a right to sex with anyone.
Everyone has to relise that each person has thier own reasons for doggin, and thier own way of doing it. Some like to just turn up and have fun, then go, no real friendship or anything (and no, not just males, I met 1 or 2 such single women), but others want to check you out a little. Lets face it, most of us need to at least find someone attractive b4 we play.
My best advice to anyone, is if the post subject relates to you, take the comments onboard, if it has nothing to do with you, move on to the next, lifes hard enough with out making problems for yourself or anyone else.
lol
ha ,what a load of crap puddle ya just joined the sad crew ,and couples who want to share must be on the verge of breaking up and you are still on this site........WHY...cause i dont think you will get much luck now,well if we want to meet any one and get a reply ,firstly i will check there profile out=blank ,dont get =1,dont bother..if a person cant be bothered to do any selling of there self what would ya expect in many cpls on here we get plauged why silly ppl replying to adds re... cpl looking for a bifem= "hi i am a male blah blah and so on ,would you get a bit fed up .you say not to tar nice ppl like yourself with same brush ,sorry ya just just tarred ya with logging on chat and within seconds ya being pmed ,only the other day we had some one in chat ask in room "hi n/eastcouple can i pm regarding mmmmf fun for tonight" in stead of can i pm , and ask in private i mean come on ya have to find out about ppl first not come out with crap like that from some one ya aint even met never mind them thinking ya gona trust them with ya wife,maybe if ya were a cpl you might think in a different light. would YOU share ya partner with some one ya have not met or has been in touch with no profile ,hardly any posting,come on be honest,talk of time wasters we have had a few dog meet posts aand have asked for filled in profiles a certain age limit(sometimes) and we get a lot of lookers and a lot of silly can be a really welcome place but the doors always open= BOTH WAYS
Well put cool
now look puddle
single guys are very nice ........we like them a lot if they try and come on the site make friends join in with the witty banter and just be them selves
Well done Puddle.
It never ceases to amaze me of the ability of some people to shoot themselves in the foot. You come on here slagging off the very people you hope to meet. Why? And what gives you the right to be the spokesperson for ALL single guys? Just because it isn't working for you, doesn't mean it isn't working for the rest of us. I can't see anything in your post which will increase your chances of meeting anyone now - but that's life!!
Mal
loads of good replies here. the thing is puddle, this is not a market place where you can breeze in and claim anything that takes your fancy. in fact the forum is just what it says, a place for us to chat. I dont think it is realistic to achieve instant meetings from here. what you can expect though is to prepare the ground somwhat for possible future meetings. I dont suppose any of that makes sense but I know what i mean. Just chill and be patient, the harder you try the less chances you will have and slagging off the folk on here will not help your cause one little bit.
Oh dear Puddle.
I am a very tolerant person and I do understand how a lot of people get off on the wrong foot in forums, which is why I responded to your post in what I hoped was a suitably non stupid fashion from your point of view. BUT, my patience evaporated the second you posted this........
Quote by puddle
lets face it any couple that wants to share their partner have serious problems and will probably brake up soon when they realise that the only reason they have seeked this other sorce of sex is that they are infact bored of each other.

You've shown yourself in your rather juvenile and tantrum prone true colours. So you didn't get precisely what you wanted the minute you wanted it, welcome to the real world kid rolleyes
Now you must excuse me, I have a large number of single guys to slag off today and I'm falling behind with my being stuck up too! <flounces off with nose in air>
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loads of good replies here. the thing is puddle, this is not a market place where you can breeze in and claim anything that takes your fancy. in fact the forum is just what it says, a place for us to chat. I dont think it is realistic to achieve instant meetings from here. what you can expect though is to prepare the ground somwhat for possible future meetings. I dont suppose any of that makes sense but I know what i mean. Just chill and be patient, the harder you try the less chances you will have and slagging off the folk on here will not help your cause one little bit.

:thumbup: .............by jove i think racer has hit the nail on the head....... :bounce:
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There you go...I recently made a lttle joke at brightongoblins expense.....He does not seem to have taken offence at it. I am sure at some time in the future he will find some way of getting his own back.....And hopefully I will take it in good humour.

lol, gurl, ur learning !! one day, somewhere, in the dark of the countryside.... I will see you move....and well...... see my line below !! :twisted:
Puddle old boy...
I think I've met you on site, if not you then a few like you.
Nobody owes you anything, and if your attitude on here is the same as your "outside" attitude, then nobody will give you anything.
Read the notes, there are several hundred single guys for every couple or single woman.
You seem to lack patience, and the ability to move your feet before the block you just dropped lands on them.
Take a few deep breaths, and then think for a while.
The swinging lark, as with the dogging lark, is for fun and games....not necessarily for sex...but...whatever.
Most of the couples in this game treat it as an extension of their lives, not as something to do instead of.
Take a hold of yourself....
:doh: Oh dear puddle - you upset serendipity - not a good move!!!
mad
Puddle come back and tell us how you got on with your slink away from YOUR thread confused: :?:
We want to know if we helped you in any way sad
Well Puddle I must make a comment to what you said about
couples with a serious problem when they share partners
and will probably brake up.
Well just for the record I am 33yrs old and my partner 21yrs senior
been together 16yrs <So stood the test of time>
Started visiting Carparks etc when I was 20yrs old <Still totally In Love with my Partner>
And have met some very nice people over the years and have had great times
and laughs.
I work In the Adult Sex Industry for some 10yrs and It has never
affected our relationship.
So This thing about Swingers being some sad group of people who need the likes of you
to act as some third party to kick start there relationship < I THINK NOT>
I have had to be open about myself to get my point over and show that most
Swinging couples have solid relationships.
We ourselves are about as close as you will get to a < SILVER BULLET>
Zina4
Puddle - act like a prat, get treated like a prat. Show respect, get treated with respect.
It's a simple concept really...
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mad
Puddle come back and tell us how you got on with your slink away from YOUR thread confused: :?:
We want to know if we helped you in any way sad

Fred I suspect he's slinked off to the *other site* - prob lots more free anytime shags on there rolleyes wink
Besides, since these posts will not be what he wants to read, he'll only say they are *stupid replies* anyway :roll:
T-J
well puddle how you have got this soooo wrong.....i am a single guy and have been using this site for about 2 years and have met great people from here, singles, cpls, parties and more.
I have widended my circle of friends and people i talk to ref. this scene, i have gained many experience had had a great time.
I have met genuine folks that given the time can be great mates.
I have been befriended by single, cpls and groups alike and having agreat time.
I have always tried to be genuine courteous and patient and it goes a long way.
So if it aint working for you, maybe you shud ask yourself what are YOU doing wrong and should YOU be looking elsewhere and this site isnt for you.
thats my bit....
anymore?
Its G here :-)
Nice to meet ya Puddle , sorry I missed your thread I was out Silky responded for us . Your post made me a little sad , but Im over it now .
I take it Puddle accurately describes your depth of personality ?
G
and is "Big G" really a sign of your small, rather wilted penis that only stands about an inch tall?
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/30009.html
If youre gonna insult me get it accurate , mine is the small wilted only inch long penis , in the gorgeous blondes mouth puddle . I was gonna be nice , but see its a bit of a waste . Read the thread above if you feel like it . If you dont feel like it , cant really see anyone being dissapointed.
Love G
Oh Dear Puddle. Is that bells i hear in the distance ... it may very well be your death knell sounding
I have watched this thread with interest and have refrained from diving in and telling you what I think. But you just keep going on insulting members and getting yourself a bad name.
Firstly you seem to have taken no time or effort to understand the swinging and dogging scene.
You also totaly misinterpret the level of trust and closeness needed by a couple to participate in this pastime
The vast majority of couples dont need single guys to help out the inadequate male half, its a sideline to our normal and very active sexlife.
And lastly does your signature give us a clue to your lack of maturity. lol
We often give a slap to the single males who come on and post the one line " I want a shag now " postings, but equally we have met a good number of single males from here and have had a good deal of fun and made some great friendships. But we only meet with charming, realistic and sensible guys. After all who would want to shag an opinionated half wit who thought every woman on here owed him an easy shag?
Jackie and Ben