Those of us old enough to remember the summer of 88 will recall the fun we had chasing around fields in the west country desperately trying to find Raves.
It is now time for Doggers to go underground. To use the same methods we used back then to throw the FBB off our trail.
Find locations that are more than just car parks. How about old warehouses? Industrial sites etc?
And what about indoor dogging? There are now several clubs in London that are starting to pick up on this trend.
I have tried to give information about one of these venues through the regular ads and as soon as I did my ad was blocked and I was 'banned' without explanation. Lets see how long this message lasts here.
The key is for exhibitionist couples and particularly women to be comfortable with what is going on. This can be done by establishing informal groups, meeting up, chatting about what you are into and in effect inviting selected singles to private meets. But these meets will be away from the usual haunts and a little more adventurous.
It could be fun.
Anyone any thoughts on this.
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Seems like a very good idea to me Lordship as long as you are not trespassing and keep the locations quiet so there are no unwanted guests i.e. boy racers or the police. I am sure somebody on SH will say it is not a good idea but the days of using car parks and layby's for dogging seem to be coming to an end especially in Staffordshire.
Sex God
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And what about indoor dogging? There are now several clubs in London that are starting to pick up on this trend.
What the hell is 'Indoor dogging?'
Sex God
I don't know off hand, but if your ad was banned, you broke the site rules. Your current post has stayed cos it has not broken the rules, even though it is silly 
.
For what it's worth, I don't think you've thought your ideas through. Wouldn't meeting indoors for sex with strangers be exactly the same as a swingers club? What's more, old warehouses and industrial sites are owned by someone aren't they? Therefore, if people followed your idea they would get done for trespassing - and quite rightly too. At the mo, dogging in car parks and laybys is NOT illegal in itself cos these are public places. Now..... use your nouse, folks........ do you really want to get done for trespassing or do you want to carry on dogging as you are now..... or of course paying a few quid to get your rocks off at a club.
Come on, whatever next
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. For what it's worth, I don't think you've thought your ideas through. Wouldn't meeting indoors for sex with strangers be exactly the same as a swingers club? What's more, old warehouses and industrial sites are owned by someone aren't they? Therefore, if people followed your idea they would get done for trespassing - and quite rightly too. At the mo, dogging in car parks and laybys is NOT illegal in itself cos these are public places. Now..... use your nouse, folks........ do you really want to get done for trespassing or do you want to carry on dogging as you are now..... or of course paying a few quid to get your rocks off at a club.
Come on, whatever next
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Come on, whatever next
Underwater dogging! Bring your own scubba suit! (Did I spell Scubba right?!?!)
Sex God
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Come on, whatever next
Mile High Dogging......... Imagine the Red Arrows as the MBB stalking a Jumbo…….. (sorry got carried away there)
Warming the Bed
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Come on, whatever next
Skydiving dogging anyone ?
S8
xxx
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I have tried to give information about one of these venues through the regular ads and as soon as I did my ad was blocked and I was 'banned' without explanation. Lets see how long this message lasts here.
I am fed up of snide comments like this. Nobody is banned from either the ads or the Forum without good reason - we don't just ban people for the fun of it.
:x :x Lordship - you aren't even banned !!! You haven't bothered to click on the link that was emailed to you when you set up your account so your account has not yet been activated. That is why you can't place an ad.
:roll: :roll: Sex God
How about car park dogging ?? The idea is that you pull into a carpark in the dead of night and then get watched by a group of complete strangers while you show off. The very idea of it !!
I know its revolutionary but hey whats life without a risk or two.
I know its revolutionary but hey whats life without a risk or two.
Invent your own name then.
Don't try muscling-in on someone elses game.
Newbies.
If you don't like it as it is, go somewhere else and prattle-on about your silly games.
The car parks have ALWAYS had the law in-and-out, that's where loads of druggies hang out, and also where many raves took place.
As for "dogging couples" etc...if I talk to another couple who moan that all the single guys are ruining dogging, I think I'll throw up.
DOGGING is WATCHING people have sex.....it's where all the single guys come from. The modern phenomenom of dogging as everyone going to a car park for an orgy is just that....modern.
Couples with couples is SWINGING....they have CLUBS for that...LOADS of them...oh, sorry, single guys have to pay....TOUGH.
You lot want to go all SAS about it, carry on.
Start your own website and push off from here.
Please don't forget, it's guys like you who want a CHEAP SHAG with SOMEONE ELSES WOMAN who've got all this driveby shite going...the rest of us were quite happy until you lot arrived with your dicks permanently hanging out your pants.
Oh...what is the new thing...oh yes, asked only last night...."any new couples about...I don't want the old ones 'cause I don't want the clap"
It's simple....dogging is outdoors.
Swinging is mainly indoors.
You don't like carparks etc, PUT AN ADVERT ON HERE...."MODERN DOGGER, SCARED OF THE DARK AND THE LAW, WANTS NEW COUPLE FOR INDOORS SEX, CAN ACCOMODATE WHEN THE WIFE IS AWAY, OR WILL GO TO A HOTEL (THE COUPLE PAY) WILL DO ANYTHING AS LONG AS IT'S SOMEONE ELSES WOMAN AND FREE"
The rest of us put-up with all the bother because WE'LL still be about when the action is, you lot will be back at home in bed. No staying power.
Don't try muscling-in on someone elses game.
Newbies.
If you don't like it as it is, go somewhere else and prattle-on about your silly games.
The car parks have ALWAYS had the law in-and-out, that's where loads of druggies hang out, and also where many raves took place.
As for "dogging couples" etc...if I talk to another couple who moan that all the single guys are ruining dogging, I think I'll throw up.
DOGGING is WATCHING people have sex.....it's where all the single guys come from. The modern phenomenom of dogging as everyone going to a car park for an orgy is just that....modern.
Couples with couples is SWINGING....they have CLUBS for that...LOADS of them...oh, sorry, single guys have to pay....TOUGH.
You lot want to go all SAS about it, carry on.
Start your own website and push off from here.
Please don't forget, it's guys like you who want a CHEAP SHAG with SOMEONE ELSES WOMAN who've got all this driveby shite going...the rest of us were quite happy until you lot arrived with your dicks permanently hanging out your pants.
Oh...what is the new thing...oh yes, asked only last night...."any new couples about...I don't want the old ones 'cause I don't want the clap"
It's simple....dogging is outdoors.
Swinging is mainly indoors.
You don't like carparks etc, PUT AN ADVERT ON HERE...."MODERN DOGGER, SCARED OF THE DARK AND THE LAW, WANTS NEW COUPLE FOR INDOORS SEX, CAN ACCOMODATE WHEN THE WIFE IS AWAY, OR WILL GO TO A HOTEL (THE COUPLE PAY) WILL DO ANYTHING AS LONG AS IT'S SOMEONE ELSES WOMAN AND FREE"
The rest of us put-up with all the bother because WE'LL still be about when the action is, you lot will be back at home in bed. No staying power.
Sex God
Quite
Sex God
Quote by chrishants
There is indeed a great deal of difference between dogging and swinging, and personally I much prefer dogging! This though does not alter the fact that very few (if any!) couples are comfortable with the tacitics of the MBB, or the hassles involved with vastly increased levels of attention by the police!
In my area the major venue has just been gated, which will mean MBB patrols will now ruin the only other viable alternative locally. Should doggers in the area merely give up, or try to come up with come good ideas to address the ever reducing number of venues, and the ever increasing number of twats that seem to be out and about at popular times?
Chris
Well, I can only speak as a dogger that has been practicing for the last 10 years or more……. (it’s a blur).
And, this is only going to be a short reply, as this has been covered time and time again in this forum, if anyone cares to do a search on keywords I am sure they will find enough relative posts to answer any questions they have.
Doggers and Couples go hand in hand…… Dogging is a result of couples playing, If there weren’t any couples then there wouldn’t be doggers….. if you see where I am coming from.
True, we are currently going through change, but then we always have…. the outdoor locations will change, people will come and go, at times - more or less interest will be shown by the media or police or boy racers, muggers etc……
But doggers and couples will always be playing…..just maybe not where you expect, true doggers will know where to go, as they are in the loop……. Couples will tell them as they need the true dogger to complete their fun!!! “Quid Pro Quoâ€
Maybe the question to ask is....... "Am I getting invited"..... ???
Indoor dogging, underwater dogging teheee
I think Blue has hit the nail on the head really. What's the difference between indoor dogging and swinging clubs, apart from the illegality element of breaking into private property??
Still - I'm all in favour or combining rave with dogging/swinging
I work in construction so if anyone wants high visibility jackets etc, send me a PM - I will swop for glo sticks and white gloves.........
oh yes, and copious amounts of narcotics!!
:mrgreen:
I think Blue has hit the nail on the head really. What's the difference between indoor dogging and swinging clubs, apart from the illegality element of breaking into private property??
Still - I'm all in favour or combining rave with dogging/swinging
I work in construction so if anyone wants high visibility jackets etc, send me a PM - I will swop for glo sticks and white gloves.........
oh yes, and copious amounts of narcotics!!
:mrgreen:
Having (genuinely) spent over 20 years on the Fetish and swinging scene with various partners I have never come across such a bunch of closed minded inarticulate buffoons as those that have commented above.
Dogging really is for retards in nylon slacks, shoes that are guaranteed to last a lifetime and 15 year old Toyotas with a headlight missing. I feel sorry for any couples that are looking to enhance their sex lives and come (definitely not CUM) across any of you guys. With the honourable exceptions of those that tried vainly to raise the level of debate you have convinced me that it really is time for a change.
By the way you did ban me under a different name - I ran an ad in both dogging and the clubs sections inviting couples only to get in touch to discuss arranging visits to indoor dogging venues. You banned me saying I had breached the rules - I presume because I list my ad in the two most obvious places for it....while there are literally hundreds of ads that repeat in both couples and singles sections.
Warning:
And by the way if you run adaware after a visit to SH you will find that they place data mining cookies on your computer - these are not ordinary cookies, they have the capability to track your key strokes and log passwords etc
I presume that I will now be (not) banned again so adieu and be careful out there - especially in SW London while they are hunting this murderer.
Dogging really is for retards in nylon slacks, shoes that are guaranteed to last a lifetime and 15 year old Toyotas with a headlight missing. I feel sorry for any couples that are looking to enhance their sex lives and come (definitely not CUM) across any of you guys. With the honourable exceptions of those that tried vainly to raise the level of debate you have convinced me that it really is time for a change.
By the way you did ban me under a different name - I ran an ad in both dogging and the clubs sections inviting couples only to get in touch to discuss arranging visits to indoor dogging venues. You banned me saying I had breached the rules - I presume because I list my ad in the two most obvious places for it....while there are literally hundreds of ads that repeat in both couples and singles sections.
Warning:
And by the way if you run adaware after a visit to SH you will find that they place data mining cookies on your computer - these are not ordinary cookies, they have the capability to track your key strokes and log passwords etc
I presume that I will now be (not) banned again so adieu and be careful out there - especially in SW London while they are hunting this murderer.
Sex God
Your Lordship....
I assume I am one of the baffoons you are referring to? If so, I have all my brain cells intact, I do not wear nylon slacks and my shoes last til the soles wear thin. I do not have a 15 year old Toyota, with or without headlights. I am a young(ish) female who enjoys all the thrills and spills of dogging in car parks and laybys.... in fact every OUTDOOR location you can think of. I also pick up strangers in clubs..... is this the indoor dogging you mentioned? Just cos people don't agree with you doesn't make them baffoons. Your idea of getting together in old warehouses and the like is ILLEGAL and you will have the law down on you in no time at all. If you happen to own a warehouse, feel free to arrange a party in it for swingers. This would be called a swingers party, not a dogging meet, cos by definition, swinging is not dogging.
Anyways, call it what you want, it looks like you will have to go elsewhere to get your kicks. Quite frankly, your Lordship, I for one am not impressed by your mock grandeur.
I don't know why you were banned, but you seem to know that you broke the rules - which is good
. Swinging Heaven has a place for everyone, even jumped up little Lords .
About the cookies thing, I'm not a techie so maybe someone else could answer that little query of yours?
Now, run along....... I've got some dogging to attend to :twisted:
In edit: have you seen Lordship's sig? Sophisticated :haha:
I assume I am one of the baffoons you are referring to? If so, I have all my brain cells intact, I do not wear nylon slacks and my shoes last til the soles wear thin. I do not have a 15 year old Toyota, with or without headlights. I am a young(ish) female who enjoys all the thrills and spills of dogging in car parks and laybys.... in fact every OUTDOOR location you can think of. I also pick up strangers in clubs..... is this the indoor dogging you mentioned? Just cos people don't agree with you doesn't make them baffoons. Your idea of getting together in old warehouses and the like is ILLEGAL and you will have the law down on you in no time at all. If you happen to own a warehouse, feel free to arrange a party in it for swingers. This would be called a swingers party, not a dogging meet, cos by definition, swinging is not dogging.
Anyways, call it what you want, it looks like you will have to go elsewhere to get your kicks. Quite frankly, your Lordship, I for one am not impressed by your mock grandeur.
I don't know why you were banned, but you seem to know that you broke the rules - which is good
. Swinging Heaven has a place for everyone, even jumped up little Lords . About the cookies thing, I'm not a techie so maybe someone else could answer that little query of yours?
Now, run along....... I've got some dogging to attend to :twisted:
In edit: have you seen Lordship's sig? Sophisticated :haha:
Jomu.
Thank you very much for your bright, witty and intelligent response.
I am sure that all your 'mates' that you hang around in the car parks with are as concerned about the fact that your shoes might not last a lifetime as you are. But still, were you not even slightly curious as to why the advert said "the only pair of shoes you will ever need to buy..." and then offered you two pairs for
I hope the nylon isn't burning too much and I am sure that that girl from the Kebab house will go out with you if only you had the nerve to ask her....despite the fact she's married to the one of the Gorillas behind the counter and the ohter one is her brother..there there don't be upset...go take it out on some poor sods that actually have a sex life...
Please don't take it personally. And please don't waste any more of your precious time sending me abusive as your IP address is already on its way to operation ORE.
Thank you very much for your bright, witty and intelligent response.
I am sure that all your 'mates' that you hang around in the car parks with are as concerned about the fact that your shoes might not last a lifetime as you are. But still, were you not even slightly curious as to why the advert said "the only pair of shoes you will ever need to buy..." and then offered you two pairs for
I hope the nylon isn't burning too much and I am sure that that girl from the Kebab house will go out with you if only you had the nerve to ask her....despite the fact she's married to the one of the Gorillas behind the counter and the ohter one is her brother..there there don't be upset...go take it out on some poor sods that actually have a sex life...
Please don't take it personally. And please don't waste any more of your precious time sending me abusive as your IP address is already on its way to operation ORE.
Actually, dumbo, since I never use my credit card on inet, nor visit child porn sites, operation ore would have no interest in me.
Oh, and my IP address changes every time I log-on to aol.
If you bother to check (if you get a chance ever) you will find that my real name is tagged as "friend" on the pnc.
I have no problems with the law and if I see anything they may be interested in (as in criminal) I have a chat with them.
Even my email adress changes....so, go away. Oh, and what is a hig-society type with an active and varied sex life doing trying to change dogging to swinging....couldn't be because you're personna-non-grata with the swingers now could it ?
Tried a bit too much "forced sex" ?
Oh, and my IP address changes every time I log-on to aol.
If you bother to check (if you get a chance ever) you will find that my real name is tagged as "friend" on the pnc.
I have no problems with the law and if I see anything they may be interested in (as in criminal) I have a chat with them.
Even my email adress changes....so, go away. Oh, and what is a hig-society type with an active and varied sex life doing trying to change dogging to swinging....couldn't be because you're personna-non-grata with the swingers now could it ?
Tried a bit too much "forced sex" ?
Sex God
Sophisticated and well mannered :shock: ....... don't believe everything you read, guys........
:haha:
The perfect example of how people create internet identities that are nothing like thier true selves......... oh well, this particular grand facade didn't last long
:haha:
The perfect example of how people create internet identities that are nothing like thier true selves......... oh well, this particular grand facade didn't last long
Boys..boys..boys....whats with trading insults. In the end we all want the same end. A return to the days of trouble free dogging. The fact is that right now due to some high profile case..IE Stan Collymore up on the chase...there are a few tourists around. these people want to come along and see what is going on without taking any part themselves. Be they boy racers or anything....and yes they are spoiling the situation for most of us . However this will all settle down again soon. Yes maybe we should be looking at various alternatives. I don't really think indoors is the answer myself.....what might happen is some guys might rent out there land at a small cost ( Hopefully) for the use of dogging. Could also emply a few security maybe. This would then mean nothing going on was illegal as it was private land and there would be no boy racers around. they wouldn't payto go in...and anyone that was messing it up for others could be kicked off site by security. So Mr Farmer with spare land..forget the car booters...maybe you should be looking at attracting a dogging clientelle...
And come on boys trading insults don't get anyone anywhere !!!
And come on boys trading insults don't get anyone anywhere !!!
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Please don't take it personally. And please don't waste any more of your precious time sending me abusive as your IP address is already on its way to operation ORE.
And I can just see them laughing their socks off at this one .... offence? being offended on a swinger website????
They are really going to donate a lot of time and resources to that aren't they?
Bluexxx thank you for at least entering into a reasonable discussion - to me it all seems to revolve around varying definitions of swinging and dogging.
To me swinging is where the intention is primarily to have full sex with other partners. Now this can be either indoors or out.
Dogging, though principally seems to be accepted as being outdoors where a couple enjoy the voyeuristic attentions of predominently male voyeurs and these happenings sometimes turn into 'greedy girl' events where the lady of the couple enjoys multiple partners.
OK my proposition and what is happening at certain venues around London is the same definition of dogging as above but indoors - that IS NOT SWINGING - the guidelines and principals are different and the fun is different. This is already a phenonomen that is starting to develop and grow because of the problems of people like Jomu above.
Well Jomu the Nylon does seem to be chaffing and my my how defensive you are - however it is noted that you did not deny sending me abusive And by the way the last prat I heard bragging that he was a friend of the police and was giving them information ended up with two broken legs and his bollocks stuck in his throat. You really should be more careful with the happy juice you could end up in serious trouble.
To me swinging is where the intention is primarily to have full sex with other partners. Now this can be either indoors or out.
Dogging, though principally seems to be accepted as being outdoors where a couple enjoy the voyeuristic attentions of predominently male voyeurs and these happenings sometimes turn into 'greedy girl' events where the lady of the couple enjoys multiple partners.
OK my proposition and what is happening at certain venues around London is the same definition of dogging as above but indoors - that IS NOT SWINGING - the guidelines and principals are different and the fun is different. This is already a phenonomen that is starting to develop and grow because of the problems of people like Jomu above.
Well Jomu the Nylon does seem to be chaffing and my my how defensive you are - however it is noted that you did not deny sending me abusive And by the way the last prat I heard bragging that he was a friend of the police and was giving them information ended up with two broken legs and his bollocks stuck in his throat. You really should be more careful with the happy juice you could end up in serious trouble.
Sex God
Can someone ban this prat?
Funny that, my email sent flags the last email sent to be on the 20/8/2004.
I rarely PM people, and in any case this pc is not my home one and is part of a network.
So, I let the network manager handle crap.
So, presumably you can produce the offending email with my genuine email address on it ?
I thought not.
By "raise the level" you mean "alter it so I get a shag when *I* want it and not when the slapper can be bothered to drive here"
Exactly.
Everyone tries to get a foot in the door.
Personally, dogging has been about since the late 60s' and it will survive the onslaught of people like you who cannot be bothered to take their testicles out of their mouths, and consequently talk the same.
I rarely PM people, and in any case this pc is not my home one and is part of a network.
So, I let the network manager handle crap.
So, presumably you can produce the offending email with my genuine email address on it ?
I thought not.
By "raise the level" you mean "alter it so I get a shag when *I* want it and not when the slapper can be bothered to drive here"
Exactly.
Everyone tries to get a foot in the door.
Personally, dogging has been about since the late 60s' and it will survive the onslaught of people like you who cannot be bothered to take their testicles out of their mouths, and consequently talk the same.
Let's just take a read back along this thread shall we.
I put forward a proposal about alternative ways of taking our sexual pleasures other than the traditional form of dogging. This is completely misinterpreted as pure advocation of indoor dogging.
I then point out that most (and I did emphasise that there were obvious exceptions) of the responses appear to be from buffoons and this attracted the ire of a character called Jomu who did nothing but reinforce the stereotypical image of the type of prat that is ruinning dogging for everybody.."better watch out... I am a friend of the police me...." oh grow up..."
And by the way when abusive accuse me of being a I do not take it as a joke, I seek out the source and really do pass it on...because although, as you quite rightly pointed out, it may not be acted on immediately at some point that IP address may well just be cross referenced.
And Jomu you really shouldn't be using the computer at work for this.
However I accept that I have attracted the opprobrium of you all but I am seriously worried that no one has criticised Jomu for his tone and attitude...that guy is seriously worrying if he is out there at dogging sites...
I put forward a proposal about alternative ways of taking our sexual pleasures other than the traditional form of dogging. This is completely misinterpreted as pure advocation of indoor dogging.
I then point out that most (and I did emphasise that there were obvious exceptions) of the responses appear to be from buffoons and this attracted the ire of a character called Jomu who did nothing but reinforce the stereotypical image of the type of prat that is ruinning dogging for everybody.."better watch out... I am a friend of the police me...." oh grow up..."
And by the way when abusive accuse me of being a I do not take it as a joke, I seek out the source and really do pass it on...because although, as you quite rightly pointed out, it may not be acted on immediately at some point that IP address may well just be cross referenced.
And Jomu you really shouldn't be using the computer at work for this.
However I accept that I have attracted the opprobrium of you all but I am seriously worried that no one has criticised Jomu for his tone and attitude...that guy is seriously worrying if he is out there at dogging sites...
Sex God
Yet again, Your Lordship, you seem to have misunderstood......
Swinging is not just about having full sex..... it is MUCH more diverse than that. Dogging CANNOT take place indoors. How difficult is that to understand?????
Jomu, I reckon you've got it dead right..... this guy is just trying to get laid when he wants it.... how stupid does he think we are? And who's going to fall for this shit?
Let's see..... everyone who wants to shag His Lordship, please say AYE.
Come on.... someone must want to???????
:shock:
Frogster.......... my zapper finger is at the ready..... but I'm having so much fun with this guy, please don't make me ban him
Swinging is not just about having full sex..... it is MUCH more diverse than that. Dogging CANNOT take place indoors. How difficult is that to understand?????
Jomu, I reckon you've got it dead right..... this guy is just trying to get laid when he wants it.... how stupid does he think we are? And who's going to fall for this shit?
Let's see..... everyone who wants to shag His Lordship, please say AYE.
Come on.... someone must want to???????
:shock:
Frogster.......... my zapper finger is at the ready..... but I'm having so much fun with this guy, please don't make me ban him
