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Judging by recent behavioural problems exhibited by the recent (last 6 months) influx of prospective "doggers", I think it is time to call time, on inet dogging.
How many others are fed-up with crowds of guys standing about smoking and chatting in the middle of a layby ?
How many couples drive in, and smartly drive out having seen the "social event" being staged ?
How many couples get peed-off with guys getting out of their own cars, lighting a fag, and then chatting to the audience ?
Or worse...hearing some say "is it players or just another show"...as in the past few weeks.
As if they have a chance anyway ?
Me, I'm fed up with the latest influx of arrogant, bad tempered, fag-smoking, jack-the-lad and gimme-a-shag assholes I meet these days.
its gettin like that in every car park now
i was playing the other night and this guy said its like watching paint dry as i wouldnt let him join in as i was busy with others so my guy told him not to watch and f*ckoff
they think the woman is a peace of meat thinking they can touch or join in when they want to,
well boys im not a piece of meat
and im ALWAYS THE BOSS
come on boys be good
Sex God
Jomu and Ginger-Jo, couldn't agree more with what you both say.
We only started dogging about 8 months ago and even in that short time have seen some radical changes to the way doggers act and how they perceive the role of the woman involved.
Certainly now, lots of them think women are like a conveyer belt and will happily go along through the ranks of men, giving BJ's or whatever, one after the other mad
It has made us rethink the whole idea of what we want out of swinging and these days we are moving more and more to arranged meets only. Exceptional guys will get an invite to our home, but otherwise we choose a less popular car park to meet them in.
As far as we're concerned, the doggers only have themselves to blame for the lack of willing couples who now frequent the local car parks in our area.
Their lack of respect and manners is beyond belief rolleyes
Hope they enjoy standing around at night smoking and chatting. We certainly enjoy our little forays without them hanging around, pushing and shoving to the front wink
Tracy-Jayne & Jon
Sex God
Yep, t'is sad but true.
The same sad behaviour can be seen in clubs too. I think it is only a minority of guys that are the problem, but they end up spoiling it for everyone mad . Those that are pushy and/or impatient just look pathetic and desperate and it beggars belief that they don't realise this for themselves :shock: I refuse to play with anyone who is pushy even if this means stopping and going elsewhere..... No skin off my nose :grin: flipa
Warming the Bed
Im a 49 year old dogger,i have not been dogging for over a year because of all the toss pots that ruin it for the genuine last time i atteneded a meeting was with uk rudegirl in kent.I have met her twice and the last time i helped her arrange kents last years magic had had one gate crasher in the kent country side,who just happened to be waliking alone in the middle of a country park in the middle of nowhere.I am still looking for for new locations in kent,for dogging.I have found a few,if anybody from kent is only male and female or male and a watcher i can take not a professional photographer, just a digital camera.
we to are fed up with all the dick heads looking to watch just for a laught, we are fed up every time we go to meet someone it gets ruined latly last 6 mounths has been really bad if its not people racing around the different locations its asshole with there lights on main beam in your face, we are just about ready to give up
I've had several emails, and also read the above.
I had one email from a guy who described how several groups have organised a group-texting service, to let each other know who is about and where, and what car etc.
The march of technology ?
Or just desperation supreme ?
Who knows ?
Sex God
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I had one email from a guy who described how several groups have organised a group-texting service, to let each other know who is about and where, and what car etc.
The march of technology ?
Or just desperation supreme ?
Who knows ?

Yep. We have those in our area too!
On our last trip out dogging a few weeks ago, there were seven guys all texting and phoning their friends to tell them there was a couple out at last, and giving our location and vehicle description!!! mad
One cheeky sod even had the audacity to stand within two feet of our car doing it and even told his mate on the phone what I was wearing!!!!! banghead :banghead:
Within a few minutes there were almost 20 vehicles in the park, two of which were large vans. The drivers of both these vehicles informed us that they had bunks etc in the back if we were interested :shock:
Needless to say, that was the finish for us as far as that night was concerned and we left. Of course we were followed for a distance until we pulled over outside a late night takeaway and parked up until the followers (two of them) had gone.
Following seems to be the norm now for these sad desperate bastards. Do they really think we are leading them somewhere else for a jolly good 'session'?! rolleyes
Maybe they've done us a favour. We now have much more fun with selected guys than we ever did with casual doggers who think I am there solely for their pleasure. cool
Tracy-Jayne & Jon
Sounds like the "herding cattle" syndrome.
Freedom of choice seems to be suffering, somewhere along the line.
Orgasminator
can i suggest that those tht wish to be watched arrange via pm at places uncommon to the dogging scene with just with a choice few men women they require, if more turn up then you drop the people you had arranged things with, we have two once very popular sites near cannock that now are full with the sit arounds and nothing else, yet there are around fifty car parks sitting empty, now i know which i would choose and it isnt the popular ones, your choice your in control as couples , use this board to make your arrangements , keep it as private as you like.
Forum Virgin
Couldnt agree more with the sentiments in here. There are far to many idiots appearing on the scene, thankfully thou they usually only last a night or two before getting bored.
SteveJK - I was at UKR last event in Kent - well done, great location.
hi Enigma
thankfully you and a few other guys were on hand to " educate " the last pratt we encountered while dogging. Just as well you did it because Ben had the serious hump with him and he would of got a smack int the mouth. Not a good thing so just as well we left, sorry it messed it up for you genuine reliable guys. Make it up to you next time. wink
Love
Jackie and Ben
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Sexlightened
yes, the text messaged instant 'herd' is all too prevalent on the south coast as well Jomu.......a sniff of any couple if found by a patrol gets surrounded in minutes and / or even gets tracked to a quieter location.............a bit like the cavalry turning up !!!! if these guys thought with there brain instead of there 'dicks' they could be dangerous.
Forum Virgin
Jackie & Ben - Will hold you to that biggrin - sounds like you had a good time at the weekend too.
As for the txting stuff at one site I go to a group of guys have got togeather. They leave one there and the others then all piss off down to the pub and when a couple comes in this stupid sod rings the others who then all rush straight back. the couple who then promptly leave. They really havent got the brains to work it out!
This conversation has been going on as long as dogging has existed as far as I can work out . The addition of a premiership footballer admittedly added an extra boost to the publicity , but its not the first time the press have focused on dogging when they have run out of news stories , and it wont be the last . Its a classic Sunday rag standby , and to my knowledge the News of the World has covered it periodically for at least five or six years .
Its the same with swinging clubs and all other forms of sexual activity that make a decent excuse for salacious text and a topless picture by the by line.
We can go on about setting parameters and showing respect and curtesy for hours and hours , but on the whole in all walks of swinging single men in the vast majority are there for free uncomplicated sex , and they do look at you if not as a piece of meat then certainly in someway as a "non-person" (what Silky calls the Cunt-on-Legs syndrome). Apart from a very rare few it has to be said that any curtesy extended is looked at as a straight trade off for what they expect in return .
The guys that are irritating everyone will of course continue to be unsuccessful , and in a relatively short time become bored with their short attention spans. Then things will gradually return to a similar level as before . Make no mistake , drive bys , rude arseholes and aggresive chancers are nothing new since Stan Collymore . They have always been here and always will be. There will always be the fellas who think because youre a liberated woman you are fair game for anything they want , and thats just because they simply dont have the social niceties of other doggers (they probably dont in any aspect of their lives) but social niceties arent neccessarily sincere , theyre just a different approach to getting what you want .
If you go out expecting someone to annoy you , and trying to apply some rule book then inevitably they will spoil your fun . Take their feelings as seriously as they take yours , and their insignificance will suddenly become not only evident , but frankly amusing .
Jomu is a top sensible fella , but in common with many people who have had a long term 'hobby' he can often be very jaded about the way others approach things . We know that all doggers only need two good evenings to be chatting about what fun it all is again .
As we've said before pre arranged meets seem a poor if not pointless substitute for chance meetings. Complete strangers , tension anticipation are all part of the sleaziness that should be a big part of the scene . If we wanted to meet someone from the net , why not at a pub or club or just at home . If we just wanted an outdoor breeze on our ass while we shagged then why not just invite several guys we know round to watch us in the back garden ? Surely the addition of text services and pre arranged meets will simply increase the expectations of a guaranteed 'result' and frankly make it just an outdoor dating service . You know what sometimes nothing happens.......well does it matter ? I mean how many of us have such terrible sex lives that we cant stand the thought of having the excitement of a 'maybe' instead of a 'definately'?
Publicity ? Well what is this if it isnt publicity ? Id estimate there are hundreds of new couples in some form of dogging that might never have considered it had our man Stan not dropped his keks at the Chase . You cant have it all ways , if you get pleasure from the moaning then I guess thats OK as long as you are honest about it .
Me im just praying the next big dogging story involves a camper van Kylie Minogue and Angelina Jolie with a banana at Stoke Woods .
Keep havin fun folks and dont let it all grind ya down .
Hello all serious swingers and do one all you (little) knob heads. ive only been on the scene a matter of weeks and have had a great meet once with Jo and lee apart from yes you guessed it the freaks who just want to stand there and get off. Maybe genuine funsters can come with an anti weirdo code as im not sure how these people get to know about these meets, or do they just turn up nd wait all night in the hope ( sad,sad,sad,sad sad sad bastards, dont know the answer as im new myself but i think if we all pool our resources we can think of something, let not the few spoil it for the rest.........GW
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Hello all serious swingers and do one all you (little) knob heads. ive only been on the scene a matter of weeks and have had a great meet once with Jo and lee apart from yes you guessed it the freaks who just want to stand there and get off. Maybe genuine funsters can come with an anti weirdo code as im not sure how these people get to know about these meets, or do they just turn up nd wait all night in the hope ( sad,sad,sad,sad sad sad bastards, dont know the answer as im new myself but i think if we all pool our resources we can think of something, let not the few spoil it for the rest.........GW

Has my last post come up???
Sexlightened
errr.............would the banana have to be organic lol
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errr.............would the banana have to be organic lol

as in 'shaped like an organ'?
Warming the Bed
A big part of the fun/excitement of dogging is the anticipation of chance meetings / complete strangers. We have only been out on a handful of occasions sometimes we have had a lot of fun and other times it has not felt exciting at all so we have turned arond and come home. We have not had a bad experience to date, but we always tend to go out quite late at night once the boy racers have gone home and the sad gits have got bored. We would never pre-arrange a dogging meet, it seems pontless when you can meet up in a pub / hotel
Quote by waynesworld
Hello all serious swingers and do one all you (little) knob heads. ive only been on the scene a matter of weeks and have had a great meet once with Jo and lee apart from yes you guessed it the freaks who just want to stand there and get off. Maybe genuine funsters can come with an anti weirdo code as im not sure how these people get to know about these meets, or do they just turn up nd wait all night in the hope ( sad,sad,sad,sad sad sad bastards, dont know the answer as im new myself but i think if we all pool our resources we can think of something, let not the few spoil it for the rest.........GW

Pardon ?
Yes, they (me) do wait "in the hope"
Because many couples DO still go out to show "on spec"
Maybe I should, in recognition of your "newness", inform you that "doggers" are the watchers.
Waiting all night is part of the game.....I don't like meets too much, too arranged.
Most of the genuine guys have been in the game for decades, most of the guys like you have been in it for hours.
Let's not "pool our resources", let's leave things un-arranged. Less chance of finding cameras waiting.
Maybe you want to "pools your resources" with the chancers in Norfolk, who arranged group texting alerts....killed it stone dead...20+ cars arriving in a few minutes when any couple showed-up.
Great idea.
If you want to be a swinger, be one. But you'll find that it's not the same as dogging.
Warming the Bed
After a bit of rest we decided to give dogging a try again, we have been out 8 times to 3 different locations. Each time when we have pulled into these locations we have been greeted by what can only be described as a bunch of scruffy looking men hanging about in groups outside thier cars. I'm afraid that Mrs Fun finds this very intimidating (as i am sure most females do) and we have driven straight out and gone home only to be fiollowed by one or two of the sad bastards.
The other thing we have found is most of the male doggers we have seen lately look and smell like they have just come from a hard days work at a building site, do yourself a favour chaps and make the effort to be a bit presentable.
We recently posted a request for a meeting with single guys on this forum and got 18 replys, when we posted the same request stipulating that the guys must be clean and presentable and able to email a photo we got one reply....... says it all i think!
We used to enjoy our times dogging and had lots of great experiances (almost every time we went out) its a shame that dogging has got into this situation.
Warming the Bed
guys must be clean and presentable
Too bloody right!
They wouldn't like it if the women were smelly and demanding oral, now would they?
Go home, have a long hot bath and use soap!
You'll have more enjoyment if you smell sweet - not of sweat!
Ditto to the many comments about the buzz of chance meets with strangers and how much that is part of the fun. But as she and I have had a few bad experiences with the boy racers and the no-hopers we've kind of taken to pre-arranging with another couple to be at the same site and time. There's still the chance of fresh encounters, there's an element of extra 'safety' shoud anything untoward occur, there's a lot to be said for a little change of car and if all elsefails you have the option of dashing home as a nice way to round off the evening.
The Kent Host/ aka outdoorfun.
Cant disagree with that idea guys . If another coule gives you a feeling of security that seems a fair compromise for sure . After all the chances of meeting another couple is about a slim as Karen Carpenter .
Good call.
Sexlightened
Karen Carpenter !!!! lol lol
I have been watching this post for a while, so i thought i would stick my orr in !!
I have only been dogging for about 6 months and i am sick and tired of the groups already. The main thing i enjoyed when i first started was the wait, the excitment !. I'm normally around the chobham sites and all we get is cars coming into the area, driving very slow and shining there head lamps on every single car in the car park. This is one of the first rules i learnt - Have respect and turn your fucking lights down !!! This has spoilt many an evening.
If you are that BMW 5 series please have some respect
Any other Chobham Doggers out there please Get back to me
Orgasminator
who the fcuk drives a bmw 5 series with an ounce of respect? surely its the renault clio owners who have the respect thing sown up, youll be asking 4wd owners next to not create too much dust as they speed off down tracks on cannock chase
Sexlightened
Damm Right lol
Respect the Clio Driver!!!