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Just reposting something we have asked before , but never really got any answers to . Amongst the many many posts for meetings on the board weve noticed ALOT of people posting reports of what is usually described as 'police activity'.
By way of research and information for the regulars showers and players amongst us , can anyone please let us know if they have ever been arrested , charged or cautioned for an offense directly related to dogging ? That doesnt include having your car looked at and finding a bald tyre , or arrest for mouthing off at the police , or arrest for trespass or arrest for refusing to move on , or arrest for drink driving .
Has any member of the board actually been arrested , charged or even cautioned officially for a dogging related offense ? Please dont post about people you have 'heard about' just post if it was actually you and be specific about the offense you were charged with and the resulting punishment . Then we can all be clear what threat the police pose to our fun and games.
Thanks
Jomu is probably the expert on this and will be able to give us all a proper, realistic answer. We have been caught by the police but they simply asked us to find somewhere more suitable. We were very polite and did not answer back etc, its just not worth it!
Must admit that I have never known anyone who has been 'done' for dogging!
Yeah thats our experience Wigan , and is exactly the point of the question really . Im sure Jomu will agree ( whats happened to his sticky by the way ?)
might as well contribute guys,but you know what the answer is.. upward of 100 police visits,drive-thoughs,out on foot,car to car,multiple police attendances,weve been questioned,had a laugh with them,been patronized by them,asked if we had seen much,done much,been told to move,been told i'm a lucky man,having a bi-sexual wife,been followed,had the car checked,been told of better sites,been told about things they had seen,but,eermmm,no,cant really say we had been nicked,even when i asked if a wpc and male counterpart would "show" for the lads,no,sorry guys,cant help you.
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Thanks for the replies from the " Happy Doggers" as we call the regulars :-)
Thought we'd bump it up a little in case some of the Dogging convicts have only just managed to post bail and they want to share their ordeal with us .
Is there actually a law which relates to dogging? I know you can be done for having sex in a public place but if I am right (and I am sure someone will correct me) doesn't someone have to complain? Is it also true that the police man/woman can be the one who makes the complaint?
Jon and I did get *spoken to* by the Police one night and asked to move along, but apart from that we've never encountered problems.
There was a case locally of a couple and their two doggers getting fined for *daytime activity* at Studland though. Was last summer. Fines totalling over £1200 were imposed on the four of them :shock:
Never heard of any other cases locally though and hope not to be the next wink lol
Tracy-Jayne
Just a question really - but what happened to Collymore. I know he was found out near to me, but was not sure if it was the old plod or just the media? I hope putting his name up here does not contravene rules, but everyone in the uk seems to know what he did so I have made a presumption that it was ok.
If it was plod, I would have thought that the papers would have said what happened to him.
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Is there actually a law which relates to dogging? I know you can be done for having sex in a public place but if I am right (and I am sure someone will correct me) doesn't someone have to complain? Is it also true that the police man/woman can be the one who makes the complaint?

You are quite right, there is no law against any consensual sexual activity outdoors. The police can only arrest you for crimes related to the act. The most likely of these is indecent exposure but conviction for this requires someone to see you doing it and fo rhtem to lodge a complaint. As long as you are always careful to choose sites where there is little chance of this happening then you'll be fine.
Of course this wont stop the over enthusiastic copper from checking out your car and its contents to try and find something else to get you for.
Hope this helps.
well iam new on here as all you regulars mite av noticed and made a few mistakes but learning
as for the old bill issue i was stopped last wk 9pm and askd wot i was up to on reply as has been said you give them an excuse they cant follow up on
but was asked to sit in there car while one done the uasall chek on the car and the other took my detail down
all chekd out ok but wen i asked y they were doin this they replyed there had been a few car jackings and also drug users in the area
and then he said have u ever heard of dogging which i replied o yea have seen a bit on the media does that really happen round here then
which he replyed o yea so i said is it illegal then he said only if they catch u in an indesent act otherwise no but if we no it happens we just keep turning up till they move on
and we keep a list off all cars that visit
i think they got better things to do but have to let it be known that they do patrol dogging areas
and if a new site is put up on a webb site it dont take them long to catch on and start patroling
hope that helps a little
the new boy
tony
I visited a well known site myself near Dunstable (too much detail or is that allowed?) for the very first (and last!) time last week. I was there 5 minutes at , me, another bloke in a car and a couple in front. 'Another bloke in a car' decided to come and masturbate at my window, at which point the police appeared and accused him of getting out of my car..the cops were two young guys and were friendly enough - when asked if he had been in my car I laughed and said 'does he look like my type..' They grinned, asked me if I wanted to push charges for him masturbating (I did not) checked me and my car out , cautioned him and then let him go - the couple substantiated my story that he WAS NOT in my car but was walking around - 45 minutes later I was allowed to leave - like most posts here say - keep it simple - I wasn't doing anything and had only just got there. Scary stuff though sad
I was at another place off the M25 one night when a TV was attacked - I stayed as a witness and the cops were pretty cool. They have a job to do too - job be polite and tell it like it is.
Well guys that looks like another NO on the arrests front , maybe we'll post the question again after a months or so and another hundred police " warnings".
We have been caught 3 times on 3 specific occasions; We were doing more that a kiss and cuddle or grope if you know what I mean. We were not rude to the police and we did not have any obvious audience (except on one occasion when a dogger parked quite close in his car). We were simply asked to either move on a do that some where else.
Police seem to prefer moving us on rather than booking us.
D and P
I've only had one run in with a policeman at a dogging site, fortunately I was just driving in so it wasn't a big deal and I have a well practiced "who me?" face complete with halo biggrin
As everyone always says, do what they ask, don't argue and you won't give them any ammunition
if the police spent more of their time on real crimes and left doggers and motorists in general alone ,rather than trying to get a percieved in fringement of something minor
they would be seen in a better light and maybe in certain circumstances may find that the general public would do a damn sight more for them
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if the police spent more of their time on real crimes and left doggers and motorists in general alone ,rather than trying to get a percieved in fringement of something minor
they would be seen in a better light and maybe in certain circumstances may find that the general public would do a damn sight more for them

Got to agree with the above comments and would add that when returning home from work this afternoon i was persued at high speed by a copper in a primera.
This was due i suppose to the high powered saloon car i was driving, but i must add was being driven lawfully and within the speed limit.
The copper in question spotted me at a distance and put himself and his car in serious danger of going off road in said primera whilst gunning the gas pedal in order to catch up with me.
He then drove as close to my rear bumper as he could,What the purpose of this was i have no idea.
I can only assume he was trying to force me into making a driving misstake and then getting a collar.
I must point out that he was not in response to an emegency as no lights or sirens were in evidence.
He turned off into a garage shortly after leaving me thinking what gives the police the right to blatantly break the law of the land.
Any police wish to comment please feel free after all it's a free country isn't it.?
smile Hi everyone wave Now I dont normally post in this section in fact its my first time.
A very interesting question this but I was wondering with the amount of policemen/women that frequent this site , would'nt it be great to hear their point of view/s ( if they look here that is ???? wink )
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if the police spent more of their time on real crimes and left doggers and motorists in general alone ,rather than trying to get a percieved in fringement of something minor
they would be seen in a better light and maybe in certain circumstances may find that the general public would do a damn sight more for them

What people fail to realise is... Many if not most criminals use private vehicles as a way of getting from A to B. Its not necessarily a driving offence which Officers are out to detect. A driving offence would however give you grounds for some investigative work. IE:..grounds could be found for a search of a vehicle of whatever else. Most People pulled over wouldnt infact get stck on for any driving offences but those people prob would notice the officer asking certain q's and having a look about.
So people who think that police are out to get motorists i think are being a little harsh. Im not saying that there arent certain officers with driving offences as their pet hates but i just think you need to be a little more broad minded.
And as for the above quote...
"they would be seen in a better light and maybe in certain circumstances may find that the general public would do a damn sight more for them"... well people failing to co-operate with police i find dont help themselves much in the long run... In my experiance.. people who help/co-operate with police normally find that their overal outcome is somewhat satisfactory if not a rather opinion changing experiance.
The truth is.. there is some bad coppers who are better/more fair than others... in reflection i think youll find this is the same with regards to swingers!. Good and Bad
I was questioned 2 weeks ago in Doncaster for the first time by the boys in blue, they asked me what I was doing so I told Them "Nothing officer, I'm just sat in my car having a fag" he replied "well there's alot of doggers come into this carpark" I just acted thick and told him " my dog is at home and he's too slow to catch a rabit" He looked at me confused and asked what that meant, I just acted all inocent and replied "Arnt doggers people poaching for rabbits" LOL
One of them then went on to explain what dogging was and said he liked the idea of it but the goverment didn't, and that he had to follow orders. He wished me a good night and then said it would be safer for me to move on.
I was as nervouse as hell and thats why my mouth opened and stupid stuff came out, Was quite funny though thinking about it afterwards though.
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I was questioned 2 weeks ago in Doncaster for the first time by the boys in blue, they asked me what I was doing so I told Them "Nothing officer, I'm just sat in my car having a fag" he replied "well there's alot of doggers come into this carpark" I just acted thick and told him " my dog is at home and he's too slow to catch a rabit" He looked at me confused and asked what that meant, I just acted all inocent and replied "Arnt doggers people poaching for rabbits" LOL
One of them then went on to explain what dogging was and said he liked the idea of it but the goverment didn't, and that he had to follow orders. He wished me a good night and then said it would be safer for me to move on.
I was as nervouse as hell and thats why my mouth opened and stupid stuff came out, Was quite funny though thinking about it afterwards though.

spouting bollocks to a police officer !!! surely an offence
I don't think there is a specific law that is aimed at doggers, and police would only act on a couple if a specific complaint had been made by a member of the public. I think that caution should be exercised at what times of day etc etc so as not to fall foul of the law.
Agree it is a good thread and would be very interested to hear of anyone being done for anything as some people i suspect may have a lot to lose from such an incident.
Looks like its still 100% NO on the arrests front , and coming from the largest dogging arena for the UK on the net , id say that was quite strong evidence that unless youre arrogant or stupid the chances of serious aggro from the police for dogging is very slim .
The North West seems to be a hot bed of dogging activity, although the OB did cross my path twice whilst at two of the locations listed on here on Saturday. Just avoided catching me in a very compromising position on the first occasion. On this occasion it was traffic cops who had obviouisly come off the Motorway. Made it obvious they were taking numbers, so I left.
Is this also the place to ask about dogging etiquette?
Never had trouble with the police. They've run vehicle checks a few times on me. Turned out clean smile... obviously and left me to do whatever it is I'm doing ina car park at 2 in the morning. The police in my area tend to drive in, cruise about to check that everybody is happily sitting in their cars and then drive off. It seems to me that they're more concerned that people aren't setting light to stolen cars or doing handbrake turns.
On a slightly related point, I think we're bloody lucky to have the type of police force we have in this country. In other countries, including many of the developed western european countries like France, Italy and Germany, the police are more like government funded militia rather than the general peacekeepers and law enforcers we have here.... and .. AND the french can't cook. confused
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well iam new on here as all you regulars mite av noticed and made a few mistakes but learning
as for the old bill issue i was stopped last wk 9pm and askd wot i was up to on reply as has been said you give them an excuse they cant follow up on
but was asked to sit in there car while one done the uasall chek on the car and the other took my detail down
all chekd out ok but wen i asked y they were doin this they replyed there had been a few car jackings and also drug users in the area
and then he said have u ever heard of dogging which i replied o yea have seen a bit on the media does that really happen round here then
which he replyed o yea so i said is it illegal then he said only if they catch u in an indesent act otherwise no but if we no it happens we just keep turning up till they move on
and we keep a list off all cars that visit
i think they got better things to do but have to let it be known that they do patrol dogging areas
and if a new site is put up on a webb site it dont take them long to catch on and start patroling
hope that helps a little
the new boy
tony

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Hi all just thought i would tie this post in as it has relevance.
Scary as well if it is the police tactic of the future.
hi all just thought i would throw my 10 pen`th in , we have found locally anyway that police activity is mostly around well know sites such as the ones listed on this and other swinging sites, we know quite a few more discreet area`s where fun can be had without distractions from the police or any other undesirables for that matter cool ,further more we have also found that its simlar with other irritations such as boy racers they seem to be more noticeable on the well known sites :cry: what does anyone else find ?
maybe everyone should try a more secluded site ..............but then how long would it take for that place to become well known.
anyway back to the original question had a few run ins with the cops and seen them go to some funny lengths to catch people at it i.e creeping about in undergrowth at the dead of night lol :lol: :lol: .
we have been threatened with this and that action,but no arrest or anything like it as far as iam aware sitting in your car having a chat and a smoke is`nt a criminal offencein this country............................yet rolleyes .
Just to let you know you haven't been forgotten...........................................and that the press are still not understanding the difference between DOGGING, CRUISING and COTTAGING....given the amount of hacks dropping their pants in loos, they might have got the message by now...
Local 'old bill' refute car park sex haunt
Weston Mercury

Seaside fun has taken on a new meaning in Kewstoke as several websites identify it as a prime site for 'dogging'.
**** Point National Trust area and car park is usually described as an area of natural beauty but on certain adult websites it is being highlighted as a hotspot for watching other people have sex, or joining in - an activity known as dogging.
One website, which lists comments about dogging locations all over the country, states: "It is an up and coming spot, becoming a favourite with the locals."
Another location mentioned is Co**um Lane, and one user says a "great location, very isolated, ideal for adult fun and frolics, the old bill never check it."
Kewstoke Parish Council chairman Tony Morris said: "I have heard on the grapevine that it takes place down there but there is nothing concrete, I don't imagine it's something the local residents take part in bearing in mind their average age.
"It is a bit of a grey area in the law so we are getting advice from our beat officer and the local action team.
"The matter will be on the next parish council agenda for discussion as well because we don't want anything like this to give the **** Bay area a bad name."
A spokesman for Avon and Somerset police said: "Dogging as such is not an offence, gross indecency and lewd conduct are.
"We are not aware of **** Bay being popular for the practice in the past, but if people are aware of offences taking place in that area or are offended by anyone's behaviour, they should let their beat officer know."
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Police will put stop to seedy sex craze Jun 15 2005
Northwich Chronicle
POLICE are taking action after an increase in reports of people performing sexual acts in Mid Cheshire beauty spots.
A number of people have contacted police after spotting exhibitionists performing sexual acts - known as 'dogging' - in public toilets at Delamere and Hatchmere.
'Although this is not the usual type of problem we deal with, it is causing concern to people and we therefore take it very seriously,' said Insp Phil Hodgson, of the Western Rural Neighbourhood Policing Unit. 'This activity, known as dogging, has attracted lots of coverage in the national Press and it seems secluded areas all over the country are experiencing this type of problem.
'The details we've been receiving indicate that damage is being caused to the barriers between toilet cubicles enabling people in one area to see people in another. This then allows people to expose themselves or perform sexual acts on themselves in front of other people.'
Dogging involves exhibitionist sex, often with strangers, in semi-secluded locations such as car parks or country parks, with an audience of voyeurs. Participants appear to organise meetings over the internet, with arrangements made via e-mail or text messaging.
Insp Hodgson is liaising with the health authority and council to solve the problem. Discussions surrounding improvements to the toilet buildings and targeted patrols by police officers are already under way.
He added: 'This type of activity is not only offensive to people, there are also a number of laws under Common Law and the Sexual Offences Act which people may be breaking. The culprits need to know that we won't hesitate to take action.
'The public should be able to enjoy these areas without exposure to such activity and I assure people we are working hard to achieve that.'
Last year, we reported how Delamere Forest and a Little Bud-worth car park were listed on websites as areas where people meet to take part in the phenomenon.
One website says an area close to Delamere train station has proved popular with 'dogging' couples as has a car park reportedly near Oulton Park racetrack.