Shrops Couple's Comments

3 Mar 2005

Hi everyone,
Just got back from work and been catching up with the various conversations that have been going on here and think I have to mention that the forum has been seeing quite a few visits from new people. Nothing wrong with that, but I do think that new people to the place should maybe lurk for a little while and try and discover just what the crack is before they start to get into debates with other long-standing members (and, yes. I do know that the last sentence might be full of double entendre's, before you suggest it!).
Our experience is quite lengthy since we have been out and about at car parks for a few years now and never really called ourselves 'doggers' until about a year ago when we actually found out that there was a name for it, but since then we've really seen the dogging side of our relationship tail off. We think it was mainly because of the publicity surrounding the activity, which I think no-one could have stopped because of the pervasiveness of the meeja and t'internet. But, I think there is still a place for it. D and myself have discovered quite a few nice little places that we are proud to call 'our own' in the Shropshire area that don't get swamped by boy-racers or police and (only occsionally) give us some great pleasure...............and even if there's no-one else there, we still have fun smile

So, in short, if the 'real' people want to have fun, they can do - they just have to find new haunts to go to and not tell many people about them. It's kind of like it was before when the web and the mobile 'phone didn't exist and the best spots were just advertised by word of (secure) mouth.
If the newbies on here are worried that their PM inbox isn't instantly full of couples offering a show after placing an ad on here then don't worry: just start chatting on here and you'll get to know some people and then you'll get to know some places.
Simple really.
Anyone care to comment?
John (& D - she's asleep so her comments will be <snore> biggrin

)

3 Mar 2005

very nicely put shrops
we all have to start somewhere
thanks 4 being polite and helpful

3 Mar 2005

Well said ShropsDogs it is about the only sensible thing said on here for ages, the only problem is getting the trust of couples when there is far more of us single males than willing couples. Another thing I have noticed since I have been dogging where in the past even if you only got a show from a couple I was happy if they wanted to go further it was a bonus. Now those that I see around the well known dogging sites think that on the rare occasion a couple do appear it is a guaranteed shag as if it is there right. I think these sort of males are giving dogging a bad name more than bad publicity.

3 Mar 2005

Brilliant item!
I would be more than happy with just a friendly show and some civilised fun, but have had no luck. I have to go off to Barr Beacon, but would be grateful for any local knowledge. It has always baffled me that there is so much space/opportunity in Shropshire (I live in Shrewsbury) but apparently nowt happening. I have been to Nedge Hill a few times, but without success.
As I say, any info. you can send me Shropsdogs would be great, and I hope would lead full a spurtful time!! biggrin

3 Mar 2005

Brilliant item!
I would be more than happy with just a friendly show and some civilised fun, but have had no luck. I have to go off to Barr
two places in 1 post then you wonder whyyou dont get LUCKY we agre with shrops dog so much better before tinternet

3 Mar 2005

Well...this looks as good a place as any to get rid of our forum POST VIRGIN tag.
Being absolute "NEWBIES" we have been watching and cruising all that this wondeful site offers, and take it from me, any "NEWBIE" that just barges in and thinks that they can get a guaranteed easy lay is very much mistaken.
To be honest, altho we am very experienced in all the right areas and have had many successes from numerous chat rooms, this web site takes everything that much further and it is quite daunting for us genuine people to judge the right mood and moment to join in.
WE have seen many a post from "NEWBIES" on here totally lambasted and ridiculed by alot of the Moderators and experienced users because of its content, or rather the lack of it, but surely they ralise that we all have to start somewhere, and those who are well versed in all that this site has to offer should be a bit more considerate to those that are just starting out in the lands of adventure.
Myself and my partner have been discussing what we would like for a few months now, we are both very nervous and want to try dogginh, but as seen on here it can be quite risky these days, and obtaining the info required means getting to know people on here and trying to attain trust, which is a bit of visious circle if you dont know where to start.
Hopefully, now I am not a VIRGIN POSTER smile

myself and my partner can build up our confidence, and hopefully others will become confident with us.
Take care all and enjoy life...its all over too damn quick

3 Mar 2005

Quote by Paul39lincs
Well...this looks as good a place as any to get rid of our forum POST VIRGIN tag.
Being absolute "NEWBIES" we have been watching and cruising all that this wondeful site offers, and take it from me, any "NEWBIE" that just barges in and thinks that they can get a guaranteed easy lay is very much mistaken.
..... this web site takes everything that much further and it is quite daunting for us genuine people to judge the right mood and moment to join in.
.... but surely they ralise that we all have to start somewhere, and those who are well versed in all that this site has to offer should be a bit more considerate to those that are just starting out in the lands of adventure.

You have made some very good points here and I must admit that the last few days I have had a go at some of the so called 'Newbies'. I have tried to offer advice and have been shot down. I have tried to be friendly and have been shot down. I have tried to a have a bit of fun and a laugh but have been shot down! So when it comes to being considerate, you get to the point where you just want to give up!
What I would say though, is look at the attitude of some of the 'Newbies' and compare it with yours. You have come accross as a genuine, friendly couple who are being realistic, showing respect and are being polite, just generally wanting to join in the banter.
So maybe some of the Newbies (and the more experienced users of the forum) do have a lot to learn, and that is from other Newbies like youselves!
Welcome to the forum, congratulations on losing your 'Posting Virginity' and really hope you have fun!

3 Mar 2005

Thank you NWC. nice to see we are not alone.
I have seen some post from newbies which do begar belief, but I would say it is probabkly better to ignore these than to try and pursuade the user to be a bit more gracious in their attitude. Lets be honest, if they are going to post like idiots then let them do so and ignore them and they will get bored and go away.
Having graced many a forum elsewhere and for a host of different subjects, it does become clear very quickly, as you probably know, if the user is a genuine newbie who is finding their way, groping in the dark as it were, in which case they would no doubt welcome any constructive critisism and help, altho it can be said that some more experienced users do tend to show little patience for the likes of us, and am sure that several genuine newbies have been put off joining in by the aggressive attitude of some others, luckily we aint goin nowhere :P biggrin

As we have read countless times it is just a case of sucking and see, and building on the foundations that have been laid from the outset. If you lay crap foundations then its all gonna come crashing down around your ears, but lay good foundations and the skies the limit.
We as yet have not dared post an Ad but will do no doubt in the very near future, and we are glad to now add a 2nd post to our count :D so here is to many more, and yes....FUN is on the agenda :D
Take care all.....and enjoy life....its all over too damn quick

4 Mar 2005

Quote by peterpiper
... I have to go off to B!! B!!!, but would be grateful for any local knowledge.

Firstly - and I will shout - FOR GAWDS SAKE, STOP REFERRING TO LOCATIONS BY NAME
Seconly, knowing how indescreet you are with location names, how can you expect anyone to share their information with you now?
Edit - I was so angry by this that I didn't wait to scroll down to see that nwcpl41 had already made the same point LOL Anyway - better it is made twice than not at all.

4 Mar 2005

After being back from work for a couple of hours and looking at the replies to my post I think I have an obligation to reply..............
I never expected quite a response to my post to be quite so vociferous (in a good way smile

) I know that when I mention it to D she'll be quite surprised, lol.
To respond to the comments; thank you everyone for the positive comments and I can understand them all but still have a slight problem with the way dogging locations are advertised on the net/newspapers/wherever. It seems that these are not private to couples and singles who are interested in 'public displays' anymore; they are advertised by any type of communication that there may be. This is no bad thing entirely since the type of forum (ie, SwingingHeaven) does it's very best to provide a service just for that, but personally think that it might be a little too open to abuse.
It seems to me that anyone can simply create a false address and then say whatever they like on the forums...........we have all seen the typical "I'm a bloke and I want a blow-job" adverts. Maybe there should be something a little more private? Possibly a seperate part of the forums which are for only those who are recommended by others? I don't know if that would work.........(Mark????? What do you think?)
Whatever happens, we'll still be going out after visiting the local pub on Friday's to have some al-fresco fun, even if there's no-one else around :)
Just my thoughts.
J
(And D's comments are still <snore>. She's just done a 15 hour shift, lol)

4 Mar 2005

hiya shropsdogs, threads going well guys, some good points raised ang good to see your having fun. what you say about the advertising and publicity is true, the big venues, at weekends are often no go areas now, and at such times, many couples are abandoning the venues to the masses. however, you do aknowledge, and i agree with you, that potentially every carpark is a playground for exhibitionist fun. we ourselves do not like labels, we use the terms dogging and doggers for clarity on the board, but like you say, you were having fun in carparlks for years without even realising you were doggers, part of the problem may stem from the shifting value of a term once used to describe seedy old perverts shuffling furtively through the undergrowth, and now used to define a stud, ready and able to appease the needs of cock hungry slappers, dogging is the new rock and roll, the t-shirts are out there to prove it.
fuck, i hope you are old enough for this? do you remember that period in the seventies, where all of a sudden, almost overnight, the world went kung fu crazy? the scene just went nuts, kids walked the street with rice flails dangling from their trousers, metalwork lessons became manufacturing workshops for the production of chinese throwing stars, kung fu dancing hit the charts, and martial arts club couldn't cope with the influx of new desciples. there were three clubs in my town, whereas now there are was there such a thing as karate before "enter the dragon", of course there was, its just that the public wasn't really that excited about it.
so what happened, well the kids all wanted a piece of the action, it was a dream come a time crowds of schoolkids gathered around the latest expert, having had a half hour lesson, and learnt the eternal secret, he would be seen crouching, hissing like a snake flapping his arms about in a manner to what he imagined was akin to a praying mantis. normally a swift kick in the bollocks would bring the charade to a hasty conclusion.
the clubs that once enjoyed a small select group of dedicated students were now having their doors beaten down by every budding nut cracker on the block, so clubs had to expand, and brach out to cope with demand. then, as with now, but on a bigger scale, the new recruits anticipated an instant fix, very soon though, they realised black belt equalled time and effort, and the majority would soon fall by the wayside, one in twenty had the committment to see it through, and they generally wasn't in it just to kick ass. for the quick fix junkies, there had to be an easier way, and the manufacturers weren't slow to see the potential, soon bookshop shelves were full to overflowing with enticing titles such as "the secrets of kung fu", "be a martial arts master in just twenty days" and so the list went on. the trend continued for a while, but the momentum was soon lost.
in our game, its the same notion of the fast fix without the graft which has seen this comical upsurge in would be "po kem yungs". the media bring to light this flange fu, and so the guys want a piece of the action..20 minutes standing around and they are well fucked off..the text vendors seize the oppertunity, give us your money lads they cry, fear not, flange for all, carparks overflowing, more semen being swallowed than in the bermuda triangle, the slappers need you boys, you are important, just give us your money..then just when you've been well and truely shafted, we'll fuck you again, cause you're gonna have to pay to leave the service, good, innit? no, when these guys come on here shouting the odds, "look, i've arrived, pm for a fuck", then naturally we can, and more often than not, do, choose to ignore it, sometimes we root them in a little reality, saves them time in the long run. nobody i know of here, myself included, would ever lambast a newbie for the crime of being a first time poster, and contrary to opinion, this isn't club select, i post like a demon, and still get stripped of my stripes by the moderators when deemed appropiate..nor is the issue as to wether they want a shag, fuck me, theres enough availability out there, i know a girl that won't make the journey to our site unless theres a good turnout, less than 15 players and she'll go somewhere else. if the gangbangers are in, they'll clear the carpark in 20 minutes anyway, no, its just the attitude displayed, which occassionally, gives rise to our ridicule, if they can't cope with the flack they shouldn't bombard us with their chaff, this board enjoys an undercurrent of reality, which is noticably absent from other fuckforums, we remind people of that once in a while.
welcome aboard paulinlincs, congrats on seizing your window of oppertunity, hope you find the water to your liking? don't sweat too much at the occassional potshot, mostly its a bit of fun. i myself have been ruthlessly machine gunned down in the line of duty. don't go quoting goverment policy to jomu for fucks sake, he'll fucking rifle through every parlimentary paper in the records department, but he will find the document to cut you dead, so steer clear of that, and you should be ok. remember too, if you post anything concearning your partners sexual appetite, expect twenty five to thirty pm's from lads you'd never heard of wanting to know where and when she's next bending over..hopefully by now you will have seen that the regulars contribute through enthusiasm for the game, and give sound advice at all available oppertunity, its just that the oppertunities aren't always forthcoming, but when they are, we look forwards to your assistance and contribution. if you offer advice where it isn't asked for, sometimes it won't be well recieved at face value, but given that the readership level is quite high here, your words may strike acceptance on the ricochet, so its always worth a shot in the dark..also, don't ever take anything i say personally, i have a compassion for people that for the purposes of forum persona isn't always well expressed, but in truth, my lightning carries very little thunder.. wink

4 Mar 2005

Sorry everybody for mentioning place names: I do understand and it will not happen again.
There is no way in which I would ever post a name which a couple trusted me with. The reason why I mentioned and is because the first one seems to be known by every man and his dog (excuse the pun) in the entire West Midlands, and the second one is devoid of any dogging action (as I said). Also, have a look at Swingers Stories and see how often the well known sites are referred to.
Those are the reasons why I mentioned these sites but, again, SORRY!!!
If there are any dogging couples out there in Shropshire please pm me: discretion assured.

6 Mar 2005

Thanks DD. I have to admit that the analogy of comparing dogging with kung fu slightly escapes me. Probably due to the fact that we were both about age six or seven. But the example still stands, I guess. smile

But apart from the immediate (and humorous) comparisons I have to agree with your your thoughts - dogging has become a fashion and one which attracts people who are just in it for the quick fix and will soon find out that they are sorely disappointed by just turning up at a car park ans expecting things to to happen. More likely they will park up and watch a load of young men appraise the various benefits of chromed alloys.
I have nothing wrong with chromed alloys, or the young men that like to look at them, but why do they have to go to remote carparks to stare at each others vehicular appendages?
We have been out over the past couple of weeks and seen (and appreciated) so many shiny wheels and crap spoilers that it just makes us laugh and we feel slighlty guilty that we are so out of date. However, we just move to a different spot in Shrophire and do our thing without 'the kids' being around us.
Just our thoutghts.....................
J & D

6 Mar 2005

to young to remember the "grasshopper" era? oh dear, that makes me feel good lol

unfortunately there aint anything we can do about the boy racers, they have as much right to be in carparks, if not more, than us, and in their defence, many of them are nice lads, genuinely into cars, and spending precious time and money on them, with little interest in our presence..
the point i was making, admittedly in a rather abstract way, was that although dogging has certainly changed, the game is in a state of fluxtuation, in that media interest fuels a temporary upsurge in attendance, but its the perception of gain without effort that causes the problem..our venue, large by any standards, is in a constant ebb and flow..any sort of media interest will give rise to pub gossip, at such times our carpark is manic, at other times you can spend 3 or 4 hours there without seeing another soul..the place can often stay quiet for weeks.
lets have a bit of fun with this, you can take your kung fu suit of for this and grab some wellies and a bobble hat instead! last week, mrs dirty and myself were off work, but the weather has been shite, so, we decided to go with it, get back to nature, button up our collars and head for the norfolk coast and marshes.
the place we chose, was the rspb reserve at titchwell,(don't worry mods, it aint a dogging site). unknown to us, a rare wintor migrant called an "arctic redpoll" had arrived at the reserve days earlier, having been blown in by the fierce north winds that thunder in unhindered from scandernavia. obviously this caused much interest among the birding fraternity, and many figures draped in various hues of khaki assembled at the base of a copse of these guys were the big-league birders, and will gladly endure arctic conditions and travel great distances to glimpse such a rarity, they will, without complaint, stake out trees and bushes for hours or even days, because that is part and parcel of the anticipated reward, simply to tick of another species in their birding log books..for them, the pleasure is as much about the persuit, as the conquest, and as such, time virtually has no meaning, nor has it for the artist, sculpture or fisherman.
the reserve has public access, a secure carpark and well stocked cafeteria. the hides and scenic coastal walks make it a haven for birders and walkers alike. many visitors have little interest in the individual species, other than an appreciation of the great outdoors and the changing elements. so, having spotted the gathering, mrs dirty and myself, mingled with the birding tourists and seasoned twitchers alike, all keen to sight this creature that commanded so much attention. now, the experts were initially only too pleased to be able to assist those that showed passing interest in their pastime, their enthusiasm was quite evident, but they became increasingly silent and agitated as selfish individuals with little patience began to crash around in the undergrowth, pointing and exlaiming at everything that fluttered within. the enthusiasts hands were tied, the site was available to everyone, they could only stand and stare in dissbelief at the inconsiderate attitudes now being displayed, but stood resolute among the manic activity. soon however, interest among the tourists was lost, and as quickly as they has arrived, they dispearsed, leaving in their wake, a handfull of keen hobbyists to mingle with the seasoned twitchers, maybe not as enduring, but nethertheless, with an appreciation of the game, that went beyond immediate personal gratification.
ok, so the redpoll took flight, wether as a result of the restless observers, or just to stretch its wings, i don't know, but my only sighting of it was, as it fluttered over the tree canopy. obviously the twitchers were aggrieved, and sought to blame the tourists, the tourists, in turn, thought the experts rude, unhelpfull and arrogant, but the bird had fled, but the twitchers waited, as they always do.
that scenario was real, it happened the way i told it, but it doesn't take much departure into the world of fantasy, to imagine what would happen, should a photograph of the arctic redpoll become a prized and valuable possession. would not, in such an event, internet sites dedicated to ornithologists, become flooded with requests from wannabe "twitchers" seeking times and places? a fast solution, an easier option to standing and waiting inthe field? wouldn't then, likely venues be flooded with "rat pack" birders using inapropiate and insensitive measures in order to force satisfaction of their objectives? how many forests would be devoid of birds? stand on a hill top forest in sicily, what do you hear, nothing!! the nature there has been eliminated, as it has in malta, not by cameras, but guns and nets. in such a situation, the text vendors would thrive, as everyone sought the information that would gain them an advantage, but in such an overpopulated envoironment, who could be trusted with information?
ok guys, its well dramatic, even by my standards, but as jomu said earlier, is it elitist, or fed-up ist? go into any adult internet chatroom as a couple, or single fem, and you will be swamped with private messages, from guys, and guys masqurading as a couple in order to gain your confidence, but it is always done through the perception of immediate gratification of a masturbation fantasy chat, or a private meeting for the purposes of sexual satisfaction, nobody will ask of a couple, 'what do you want from this". my friend "the master" is very successfull, through perserverance, endurance and acceptance of the reality, that in the context of dogging, he is an accessory to the couple's desires, not vice-versa. he also has an instinctive respect for the game, and how it should be played, his attitude is entirely appropiate and his success rate phenomenal, but then he is out there, doing it..

6 Mar 2005

sorry to run away with your thread guys, but in a comical twist of irony, i'd like to run this one by you.
mrs dirty was watching me type that last essay, and the birdwatching theme began to appeal, so it was suggested that we go for a woodland walk. we arrived at a forest not particularly noted for its nocturnal deviants, and we happily mingled with the dog walkers and our walk, we sat in the car, watching a flock of bramblings feeding on beech nuts at the base of some trees, at which point we became aware of a bespectacled lad driving up and down, showing more than passing interest. eventually he parked up, 20 feet or more away, and sat, with his window open, staring over at us..
eventually we decided to leave, and immediately noticed him following. we turned right, so did he, then around the roundabout and through a town, still he followed, down a narrow track, left, then along a road parallel to the previous, still he tailed us, and by now, we were sure he was certainly following us..12 miles later, we parked in a field enterance, only to see him fly past at a very innapropiate speed for the road conditions..
ok, so we weren't frightened, and was taking the piss, but for fuck's sake, we looked more like bleedin bill oddie than anything else..how many other couples, out for an innocent ramble have recieved that parting salvo from a numbnut with an overburdoned ball-sack?

7 Mar 2005

Well, Mr & Mrs D.....your replies have been more than welcome and have provided some funny moments and a worthwhile humourous respite from most of the crud that seems to appear on the various websites that we occasionally frequent, which these days are mostly online banking, news sites and the total lunacy that is .
While not being 'twitchers' ourselves, we do appreciate the times when our garden is graced with a visit by the local avian population at which times we both say things like, "Ohh, look at the pretty little animal with wings. I recognise that - it's one of those bird things." (We're not experts, you see.)
But we have also been stared at and ogled by various young men in various crap cars, even when we have just been sitting in the motor chatting after going for an invigorating country walk. The last time that springs to mind when we were spied was when we were togged up to the nines in our Berghaus attire and had just gotten back to the car after an hour or so's walk around one of the prettier picnic areas in Shropshire during mid February - far too cold for us to even attempt to do anything - and after sitting while we got warm again it had got slightly dark and we noticed that there was a car with a young chap sitting in it obviously with no intention of moving off. We'd both noticed him and qithout looking directly at him decided that it was probably best if we headed off home. No sooner that we'd got our headlights on than his Vauxhall Phasa had set itself on 'tickle' mode and was revving like a house-fly. He proceeded to follow us out of the car park and down the single-track road. He was obviously employing total stealth by following about six feet behind us in a totally deserted area of Shropshire..............
So, we decided to visit the local Morrisons supermarket (about six miles away) and he still followed! But to his credit he did decide not to park next to us when we filled up with petrol. We also bought a nice bottle of wine while we were there which took us a good 15 minutes. On leaving the supermarket he STILL followed us! So we took the scenic route home which included going round a few roundabouts, some of them going round-and-round and after a particularly slow drive down a 60mph road he decided that it was probably bedtime and left us to go back to our place.
OK, let's summarise. He saw a couple going for a walk and followed them to a supermarket, watched them buy petrol and wine and then drove round a roundabout with them for a while. We had a nice walk, bought some decent plonk and listened to a CD on the way home.
I think we win smile

J&D

8 Mar 2005

aahh, ta for the compliment shrops..methinks mrs dirty's green wellies may have acted as a catalyst for yesterdays event, so back to the thigh boots and fishnets wink

8 Mar 2005

Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
You have made some very good points here and I must admit that the last few days I have had a go at some of the so called 'Newbies'. I have tried to offer advice and have been shot down. I have tried to be friendly and have been shot down. I have tried to a have a bit of fun and a laugh but have been shot down! So when it comes to being considerate, you get to the point where you just want to give up!

After a while it's hard not to feel that way Mrs Naughty, I've tried to refrain from digging at them but it gets harder (ooeerr!) and I'm only a 6 month old member! It's amazing that so many people post messages expecting information to be handed over and offering no details in return, not to mention the "I'm bored, tell me how to dog" brigade. I find myself biting my cybertongue daily and I'm quite patient (unless there's cheesecake involved! )
I know that there are often accusations made in the Cafe of cliques in SH, I don't know if that has ever been thrown at the Doggers here but it's easy to see how it could happen given the lack of effort by so many posters, why bother to get to know them? What you put in is what you get out is never truer than here, I've seen many new members made very welcome when they've taken the time to get to know people......it's really not difficult, is it? biggrin

Oh well, it could be worse I suppose.......the verbally challenged out there could be following couples around the supermarket car park shouting "wannashag?" at them rolleyes

8 Mar 2005

Hi Serendipity, nice to see you back on the board. Missed your posts this last week!
What you say about new people posting and being made welcome is right, its not that long since I was a newbie, and I remember just how good it felt when Mr Dirty replied to one of my posts, then Silk and Big G commented on something I had posted! It felt soooo good, I felt part of the 'community' and I wanted to post more and more (ok Mr D, no comments required on the number of posts I do). But I wanted to be a part of this, I didnt expect to just come on here and everyone to just go out of their way to help me, and sometimes, I think that is what some the new ones want! All take and no give!
In the Cafe they have been talking about 'adopting a newbie.' Maybe we should take it that bit further and adopt a new dogger lol

We could call it 'Puppy Walking' :lol:

9 Mar 2005

Just for the record all the "shots" found in this thread have nothing to do with me my pistol remains under my poncho, Tuco must be in town biggrin

Clint

9 Mar 2005

Well, Dirty. We think you might have found the holy grail of attractants there.........green wellies! We recommend all newbie doggers buy a pair so everyone can all spot each other and acknowledge our secret with a 'special handshake', or are we getting things mixed up here? Maybe we're thinking of a red carnation and a copy of the times under the arm.......oh dear, I think I'm getting funny stares from D as I type this. Anyway...................!
The 'adopt a newbie' scheme would be quite good if the government would subscribe to the idea and provide some sort of funding like a 2005 YTS smile

Anyway, we have tended to avoid the "I'm in XXXX and am looking for a shag" sort of posts. Mainly because they always seem to be a total waste of time. We've only ever accepted invites from other couples if they've had some sort of history on a site (not only this one) and the single males that we're played with are just guys that have been around at the time, but we're getting a bit bored of single blokes in car parks now because of the proliferation of them. Hopefully, as Jomo said it'll be a cycle of things and the boy-racers/idiots/chancers (not tarring all with the same brush here, by the way) will just get bored and leave. However having just typed that and having D read what I'm typing I've just realised that what I've said may just encourage the boyracers, etc to continue their behaviour..........we'll see - they won't get far with us anyway.
And as for newbies being reticent about posting immediately on the forum, we think that's no bad thing. Why not take a look around and see if it's for you before jumping in with a potentially embarressing post that will only drop you in it in the future? How many people have signed up to FriendsReunited only to suddenly realise that they don't really want to meet all those people that they knew at school/college, etc? But, that shouldn't stop people from posting what they think is an honest post and as long as it's a fairly considered request I think that all other serious posters will take them as face-value.
Right. We'll shut up now and let other people have a say.
Would new members to the forum like to say what they think of this posts' comments? Maybe how they feel about posting just after joining and for those that have posted and felt ignored/isolated/whatever, maybe you'd like to find out why? (Hopefully this won't start a huge bun-fight!)
J&D
(D is awake at the moment so her comment is <"bloody internet always get's us into trouble">

22 Apr 2005

Just read the thread and feel I need to reply as a single bloke (the wife dont play). I happen to life in the locality under discussion. I'm a straight guy, mid 40's, and my car is somewhat bigger and definatley not a brand used by boy racers.
I visit some locations in Shrops, like to stroll through the countryside and 'watch' the goings on. What annoys me is the single guys who approach whilst playing with their flies and rubbing their buldges. "here's my cock so give me a BJ ". Then there's the cars full of youngsters out for a smoke etc.
My question to this forum therefore is this .. how do I avoid the above, and how do I get to 'watch' nice couples having fun. How is it done ? All the locations mentioned for this area are full of single guys after a BJ. Where do couples go ?

22 Apr 2005

Quote by aero_99
Just read the thread and feel I need to reply as a single bloke (the wife dont play). I happen to life in the locality under discussion. I'm a straight guy, mid 40's, and my car is somewhat bigger and definatley not a brand used by boy racers.
I visit some locations in Shrops, like to stroll through the countryside and 'watch' the goings on. What annoys me is the single guys who approach whilst playing with their flies and rubbing their buldges. "here's my cock so give me a BJ ". Then there's the cars full of youngsters out for a smoke etc.
My question to this forum therefore is this .. how do I avoid the above, and how do I get to 'watch' nice couples having fun. How is it done ? All the locations mentioned for this area are full of single guys after a BJ. Where do couples go ?

Well firstly i am newbie as well and as such you may feel that i have very little to offer, however i must ask you how do you know that your wife dont play. Have you asked her or spoken to her about dogging.? Secondly i am in a similar situation to yourself in the respect that my wife wont play either. That is not completely true as we share fanatsies about dogging senarios, so she is fully aware of my leanings and urges. Have you ever tried this with your lady.?
In respect of your question of where do i go to watch nice couples having fun, try looking at home in your bedroom.
In regards to how do you avoid cars full of youngsters, well we all face that problem. The answer is you don't, you can however go for drives and make your own fun in areas that are not well know as dogging venues.
Just for the record here when i suggested to my wife that i should like to display her charms for others, well she dressed in true dogging attire but we never managed to get out of the bedroom.
I am hopefull that this will change but i will not pressure her in any way shape or form because i love her too much for that.
My wife knows i am a member of this site and often reads other posts whilst sitting next to me, does your wife know that you are a member.?
Sorry to ramble on aero but i feel that for someone of your age to ask how its done, to be a little unusual.