Just a little gripe now the summer has arrived. My partner and I have enjoyed dogging in Sussex for a while now, and several doggers have enjoyed my partner! When we pull into a car park now the weather is improved, the car immediatly gets surrounded with guys almost fighting to get into the car uninvited. If we drive off to find a new location, we are immediately followed by a convoy of cars. Do none of these guys realise that there will be no playing under these circumstances, and chasing a couple half way round sussex shouting and flashing headlights is hardly the way to get the result you want.
I have spoken to some of these guys who moan that there are not as many couples about as there once was and that they spend most of their time standing around talking! Why are they surprised?
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Here Here.
It is absolutely the worst we have known it in 7 years of dogging. And the guys wonder why we never do pre arranged meetings, instead prefering to turn up at 2 - 3am in the morning, when only the hardened ( excuse the pun ) doggers are around.
I have to say if anyone tried to follow us out they would be told where to go in no uncertain terms. ( ben is 6'2" and about the same wide )
Good luck and try and enjoy yourselves despite the wankers.
love
Jackie and Ben
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It is absolutely the worst we have known it in 7 years of dogging. And the guys wonder why we never do pre arranged meetings, instead prefering to turn up at 2 - 3am in the morning, when only the hardened ( excuse the pun ) doggers are around.
I have to say if anyone tried to follow us out they would be told where to go in no uncertain terms. ( ben is 6'2" and about the same wide )
Good luck and try and enjoy yourselves despite the wankers.
love
Jackie and Ben
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Orgasminator
As single male myself, i feel all these blokes hanging round the sites waiting to jump on the nearest couple or rarely single female have wrecked it for the rest of us, If anyone in maidstone PM me if they want a geniune nice guy,I respect limits, will watch if only watching wanted or join in when asked BUT only when these groups of guys insist on hanging round in large bunches if will kill it for the rest of us.
A little consideration is always appreciated.
We were in a Surrey Car Park last Thursday for a little fun "over the bonnet". Just 2 guys there at first but by end having to get fairly vocal in asking new arrivals to back off. For J. 3 guys were gr8 but any more than than was getting a little worrying.
What really pissed me off though were the scratches on the car! 3 in all that were not there earlier. Non from me, J or the 3 invited guys but from all the others around us with belts etc
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Be Considerate Guys if you want fun
We were in a Surrey Car Park last Thursday for a little fun "over the bonnet". Just 2 guys there at first but by end having to get fairly vocal in asking new arrivals to back off. For J. 3 guys were gr8 but any more than than was getting a little worrying.
What really pissed me off though were the scratches on the car! 3 in all that were not there earlier. Non from me, J or the 3 invited guys but from all the others around us with belts etc
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Sexlightened
Not only has the 'herd' instinct taken over and been frightening off couples, we also have to contend with some very 'verbally outspoken' guys who think they have a privelidged parking space, closer, nearer and in pole position when the couples do turn up. I had no idea until this summer that a seniority for watching etc. was based on how many previous years experience I have......atleast that is how I understood the theme to an irrate conversation once I had edited out all his expletives....... 
We have tried pre-arranged. That wasn't bad as we picked somewhere out of the way but it seemed a bit cold blooded. What I don't understand is why 4, 5, 8 or even more guys think it's Ok to cluster round a car or to chase the occupants over half the county, have they really such a low opinion of women that the think that getting gangbanged by a bunch of idiots is all they live for! What makes it even more astounding, is that on two occasions one of these blokes was invited into the car (two different guys one time each) and in both cases they were unable to sustain an errection! I don't think half of them even really know what they go dogging for.
Listen guys, the dark is really not that scary. If you hang around in large groups talking, that is likely to be all you do all night. You would stand a hell of a lot more chance if you kept to singles or pairs at the most. Think about it!
Listen guys, the dark is really not that scary. If you hang around in large groups talking, that is likely to be all you do all night. You would stand a hell of a lot more chance if you kept to singles or pairs at the most. Think about it!
The problem seems to be that some guys feel they have an automatic right to a shag if the couple turn up. 
Wrong, wrong and wrong again.
The female of the couple has the right to say who, if any, gets to play.
so guys if you want a piece of meat then go to the Butchers.
If you really have an interest in dogging the read the rule and guidelines then we can all have fun.
Oh and while i am ranting... Guys learn how to put a condom on please. If you dont know you can always practice at home.
Sorry, love you all anyway
Jackie and Ben
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Wrong, wrong and wrong again.
The female of the couple has the right to say who, if any, gets to play.
so guys if you want a piece of meat then go to the Butchers.
If you really have an interest in dogging the read the rule and guidelines then we can all have fun.
Oh and while i am ranting... Guys learn how to put a condom on please. If you dont know you can always practice at home.
Sorry, love you all anyway
Jackie and Ben
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Jackie & Ben
Kim is 5ft 10 and I'm 6ft (ex para) so it's not a problem dealing with these idiots, just frustrating. If you are ever our way, give us a bit of notice and we could meet for a drink then go to one of the local sites. With two couples in two cars we could maybee get them to waste a little time and a lot of fuel. Who knows perhaps the way to teach them is to lead them a merry dance until they learn a little civillity.
Kim & Ken
Kim is 5ft 10 and I'm 6ft (ex para) so it's not a problem dealing with these idiots, just frustrating. If you are ever our way, give us a bit of notice and we could meet for a drink then go to one of the local sites. With two couples in two cars we could maybee get them to waste a little time and a lot of fuel. Who knows perhaps the way to teach them is to lead them a merry dance until they learn a little civillity.
Kim & Ken
Warming the Bed
sorry to hear about the bad experiences.
Im only new to all this and find it inceasingly harder to just watch from a distance.
I thought dogging was just watching, and have noticed alot that there are alot of guys wanting to join in.(are ther not clubs or something for that?)
I dont know wether its because doggings become quite public, through papers etc. and i guess thats not helped what so ever, and this has given the chance for the morons just looking for sex, the oportunity.
But i know its difficult now to keep dogging out of view.(if you know what i mean, non publicised? errr-thats it,lol)
I live in Sussex too and notice that nothing really goes on down here, and if a couple are kind enough to show, people should be grateful and respectful.
All I can say is sorry, and good luck in the future(for everyone)
Hope that was understandable
cheers
Tony
Im only new to all this and find it inceasingly harder to just watch from a distance.
I thought dogging was just watching, and have noticed alot that there are alot of guys wanting to join in.(are ther not clubs or something for that?)
I dont know wether its because doggings become quite public, through papers etc. and i guess thats not helped what so ever, and this has given the chance for the morons just looking for sex, the oportunity.
But i know its difficult now to keep dogging out of view.(if you know what i mean, non publicised? errr-thats it,lol)
I live in Sussex too and notice that nothing really goes on down here, and if a couple are kind enough to show, people should be grateful and respectful.
All I can say is sorry, and good luck in the future(for everyone)
Hope that was understandable
cheers
Tony
Hi kimken and can we also say hi to jackie and ben and that we totaly agree with everything you've writen, we're very new to the scene and always thought it was about being watched and not guys thinking they're on a dead-cert shag just because a couple are at it, we've tried a well known sussex location a couple of times, 1st time wasn't too bad had a bit of a play but d got freaked out when a car seem'd to block the exit and when we left tried to follow us around sussex and the second time we hadnt even had chance to light a ciggie before a car was inches away, and then they get all humpy because people tend to drive off, if this is what the scene has come to there are going to be a lot of single guys onto a loser unless they read the rules and maybe try and abide by them a bit, in the mean-time good luck to you (kimken) & jackie & ben
Hi all.
Just to clarify the various terms in use. Dogging has become the generic term for the various activities that take place in and around a car or outdoor venue.
A Dogger= A guy who will wait in known locations with the express desire of watching and / or participating with a couple haveing sex.
A Piker= Fairly recently used term believed to mean a guy who only watches, usually from a distance. Also known as a voyueur
Couple = The couple, or very occaisionaly, single lady who actively seek out men and other couples to watch them have sex. Also may be called exhibitionists and possibly swingers ( with other couples )
We always say " shall we go dogging " , which is technicaly wrong, as we are ehxibiting, but its still great fun
We expect and indeed encourage full sexual contact with guys we meet while out playing and have been very fortunate not to have had many problems with the idiots. We are well known by reputation at our local dogging sites and the regular guys tend to deal with any problems.
Obviously terms and expectations vary by area but if you get problems at a site, dont go there. Find another and only go back when it gets quieter.
love
Jackie and Ben
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Just to clarify the various terms in use. Dogging has become the generic term for the various activities that take place in and around a car or outdoor venue.
A Dogger= A guy who will wait in known locations with the express desire of watching and / or participating with a couple haveing sex.
A Piker= Fairly recently used term believed to mean a guy who only watches, usually from a distance. Also known as a voyueur
Couple = The couple, or very occaisionaly, single lady who actively seek out men and other couples to watch them have sex. Also may be called exhibitionists and possibly swingers ( with other couples )
We always say " shall we go dogging " , which is technicaly wrong, as we are ehxibiting, but its still great fun
We expect and indeed encourage full sexual contact with guys we meet while out playing and have been very fortunate not to have had many problems with the idiots. We are well known by reputation at our local dogging sites and the regular guys tend to deal with any problems.
Obviously terms and expectations vary by area but if you get problems at a site, dont go there. Find another and only go back when it gets quieter.
love
Jackie and Ben
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Sex God
We're not ones to apply rules and regulations to dogging , or anything else for that matter ,as anyone whos ever read any of our posts will know .
So we wont get all tied up in words and definitions , but we have found that the expectations in doggers have become something of a dissapointment .
We dont criticise any girl that wants to suck and shag the whole car park if she wants to , good on her and hope she enjoys is that alot of the guys who go out now seem to expect that . Silky and I dont let folk join in as it just isnt what we want , but we always used to have fun watching and being watched . However more and more the doggers seem to take a rather sad attitude to that . Any voyeur who has ever seen Silky up close (and very close is fine) will know that she is quite gorgeous and gives the most erotic show you could ask for , this Saturday night we went to a local spot where we often take pictures and show off to the doggers . There were six guys there , so out of curtesy to them , and in order to prevent them being dissapointed I made a point of getting out and telling them all the way we play and that we didnt do join ins . They all came over to watch , but within ten minutes all but two had wandered off and started smoking and looking at their watches .
Now Im not saying that Silk and I have any right for them to watch , after all we cant be exhibitionists without voyeurs so its a fair swap , but frankly if they werent interested in just a show they should have just stayed away and let those that are voyeurs enjoy . To just walk off is a little insulting to a girl whos is giving her all .Fortunately Silk doesnt have a thin skin , and the guys that stayed were very nice fellas , and got a very very close up view of a long sticky ended show.
Anyway its not like us to rant , but suffice to say that if any of the others turn up within ten feet of my sexy blonde again theyll be told nice and polite to go check the time in another carpark.
Remember guys its not you being judged and talked about , its not you who have to dress up sexy and put on your makeup and perfume , and to someone more sensitive your expectations could be very hurtful . You spend enough time moaning about there not being enough couples on the scene , and many of the girls who do go further than we do started out showing off with the door firmly closed , so it wouldnt surprise me if you had scared many a sexy minx off by looking at your watch and discussing the match. If youve got time to sit in the carpark and talk all night waiting , you surely have time to watch a half hour show , even if its just to be poilte.
So we wont get all tied up in words and definitions , but we have found that the expectations in doggers have become something of a dissapointment .
We dont criticise any girl that wants to suck and shag the whole car park if she wants to , good on her and hope she enjoys is that alot of the guys who go out now seem to expect that . Silky and I dont let folk join in as it just isnt what we want , but we always used to have fun watching and being watched . However more and more the doggers seem to take a rather sad attitude to that . Any voyeur who has ever seen Silky up close (and very close is fine) will know that she is quite gorgeous and gives the most erotic show you could ask for , this Saturday night we went to a local spot where we often take pictures and show off to the doggers . There were six guys there , so out of curtesy to them , and in order to prevent them being dissapointed I made a point of getting out and telling them all the way we play and that we didnt do join ins . They all came over to watch , but within ten minutes all but two had wandered off and started smoking and looking at their watches .
Now Im not saying that Silk and I have any right for them to watch , after all we cant be exhibitionists without voyeurs so its a fair swap , but frankly if they werent interested in just a show they should have just stayed away and let those that are voyeurs enjoy . To just walk off is a little insulting to a girl whos is giving her all .Fortunately Silk doesnt have a thin skin , and the guys that stayed were very nice fellas , and got a very very close up view of a long sticky ended show.
Anyway its not like us to rant , but suffice to say that if any of the others turn up within ten feet of my sexy blonde again theyll be told nice and polite to go check the time in another carpark.
Remember guys its not you being judged and talked about , its not you who have to dress up sexy and put on your makeup and perfume , and to someone more sensitive your expectations could be very hurtful . You spend enough time moaning about there not being enough couples on the scene , and many of the girls who do go further than we do started out showing off with the door firmly closed , so it wouldnt surprise me if you had scared many a sexy minx off by looking at your watch and discussing the match. If youve got time to sit in the carpark and talk all night waiting , you surely have time to watch a half hour show , even if its just to be poilte.
Watch a half hour show ?
The last show I watched (nice young couple, white pvc boots...tatooed bum..) I hadn't been "on" the car for 5 minutes when two others wandered over...one stood with one hand in his pocket and the other had a fag in it (cigarette, sorry)...and one wandered over lighting-up as he walked....he asked of it was just a "show" or were they "players"...when told it was a show he wandered away muttering about it to himself...the other guy got fed-up and walked-off a few minutes later...leaving me with both hands free and no wasters standing about...so a good show continued, with a little "hands-on" at the end.
Even then, they got followed away by another "lurker in the shadows"
Sign of the times ?
Didn't you all know that "dogging" is where promiscuous young ladies take on all "cummers" for repeated unprotected sex in every car park in the country, while their men stand around just grateful for the chance to watch the "studs" perform.
Me, I just like to watch.
The last show I watched (nice young couple, white pvc boots...tatooed bum..) I hadn't been "on" the car for 5 minutes when two others wandered over...one stood with one hand in his pocket and the other had a fag in it (cigarette, sorry)...and one wandered over lighting-up as he walked....he asked of it was just a "show" or were they "players"...when told it was a show he wandered away muttering about it to himself...the other guy got fed-up and walked-off a few minutes later...leaving me with both hands free and no wasters standing about...so a good show continued, with a little "hands-on" at the end.
Even then, they got followed away by another "lurker in the shadows"
Sign of the times ?
Didn't you all know that "dogging" is where promiscuous young ladies take on all "cummers" for repeated unprotected sex in every car park in the country, while their men stand around just grateful for the chance to watch the "studs" perform.
Me, I just like to watch.
Sex God
Thers room for all of it mate . Just like the whole rest of the world the idiots and rude fuckers make it sometimes less pleasant , but the cream always rises in the end.
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Didn't you all know that "dogging" is where promiscuous young ladies take on all "cummers" for repeated unprotected sex in every car park in the country, while their men stand around just grateful for the chance to watch the "studs" perform.
Me, I just like to watch.
Bloody funny jomu. really made us laugh. Thank you xxx
Love
Jackie and Ben
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Just a message to single guys that are doing this from a new single guy to the scene, I recently turned up at a well known dogging area in Essex, I had read a lot of the advice on the forums here and stayed put, didnt harass anyone and minded my own business. I was finally approached by a male from a couple that I hadnt even seen! and once we got talking he mentioned that the guy in the van had followed them from one place to another, the guy in the van had finally got bored 5 mins earlier and left us to it! following couples really is not going to get you anywhere, I have had 2 fantastic dogging experiences now and as a single guy it seems that that is a little rare. All I can say is that this site has helped me stay on the right side of dogging etiquette and it has paid off. Lets all have some respect and remember that the girl may actually not think you are very attractive and not really want to screw you. suck you or even look at you for very long, I am always aware of this... It takes all sorts to make the world go round so dont take it personally, we all have our preferences and the ladies rule in this domain!
Take care and be safe
Take care and be safe
hi we are a attractive genuine couple who have recently moved into the brighton area,weve visted a few dogging sites in and around brighton but find there to many single guys and little boy racers,so we thought we would try and arrange a dogging session at a location we have found,we are looking for other couples single females or males to join or watch, he is 30 and she is 28 we are looking to arrange this for monday 21st june at around please email or pm us if you would like the location, but please note we will only reply to a few as we dont want the location to be crowded.
Warming the Bed
We went out last night on a pre-arranged dogging meet, and I have to say that the 'uninvited' were respectful when asked to keep away.
Went to a usually quiet site in Bucks last weekend, parked a decent distance from the only other car there, with a young couple in it, might have been their first time. All was going well, they had got into the back seat & she was giving him a blow job, when a 4x4 with full beam on came round, stopped & the guy got out & approached the couple's car really close. They took fright & drove off, ruining the evening for them & me. Oh well, patience is a virtue.
Simon.
Simon.
Orgasminator
One of the big problems is that there doesnt seem to be as many posts or sites that give any real advice on etiquete.... and post it in big bold letters so that even the dimmest of the population can understand them.
There really needs to be a post giving the exact details... while they may be different to other ideas they would at least give a basic guide line.
say....
Single guys... drive into spot with lights dipped, park up and turn off lights...
Couples... if you wish to be watched flash interior lights on and off a couple of times....
If not enough voyers then keep flashing lights....
If you wish to play, or may do over the time... open window....
Guys if windows are closed then you aint going to get any touching.... if arse stuck out of window or door open then ask politely if you may touch... etc... etc.....
Very much like the old cursing guidelines that used to be posted for the gay scene...
Obviously thoes that didnt visit sites like this would still not have a clue, but the clued up people (couples/singles) would soon sort them out... politely ofcause.
I'll be honest, even I dont know the ins and outs... so it would need people more experienced than myself to create a "rule set" having turned up to a dogging site with 5 or six widely spaced cars, I decided honour was the best part of valour and left.... does one park up indefinatly in the hope... do you trawl backwards and forwards in the park, etc. etc.
Without the rules being defined and in print then how will people know?
Especially as there seems to be this onus on "dogging" being a join in sport... dogging was originaly more of a gay scene... and in the original sence it ment gay/bi guys "walking the dog (as an excuse)... looking for sex..."
Jon
There really needs to be a post giving the exact details... while they may be different to other ideas they would at least give a basic guide line.
say....
Single guys... drive into spot with lights dipped, park up and turn off lights...
Couples... if you wish to be watched flash interior lights on and off a couple of times....
If not enough voyers then keep flashing lights....
If you wish to play, or may do over the time... open window....
Guys if windows are closed then you aint going to get any touching.... if arse stuck out of window or door open then ask politely if you may touch... etc... etc.....
Very much like the old cursing guidelines that used to be posted for the gay scene...
Obviously thoes that didnt visit sites like this would still not have a clue, but the clued up people (couples/singles) would soon sort them out... politely ofcause.
I'll be honest, even I dont know the ins and outs... so it would need people more experienced than myself to create a "rule set" having turned up to a dogging site with 5 or six widely spaced cars, I decided honour was the best part of valour and left.... does one park up indefinatly in the hope... do you trawl backwards and forwards in the park, etc. etc.
Without the rules being defined and in print then how will people know?
Especially as there seems to be this onus on "dogging" being a join in sport... dogging was originaly more of a gay scene... and in the original sence it ment gay/bi guys "walking the dog (as an excuse)... looking for sex..."
Jon
The "ins and outs" and accepted procedure are published on this site. The trouble is, most blokes jump straight to the forum or ads to see who can be shagged and that is as far as they go. Your own post shows that you have no idea of the contents of this site, and indicates that you have not researched your subject. In any case, common courtesy should not require published "rules". Women who visit dogging sites are generally being generous with their favours, they should not be intimidated in the hopes that they will "come accross".
Exactly Kimken. One of the most sensible guys that i have seen posting on Dogging forums has given you guys the benefit of his wisdom, but only useful if you read it.
Where is it I here you all ask. Only at the top of this forum as a sticky.
If everyone had a look at it first then this thread would be dead by now.
Thanks Jomo. To read his wisdom click on this link.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/8277.html
Easy when you look.
Most sites have similar advice available.
Love
Jackie and Ben
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Where is it I here you all ask. Only at the top of this forum as a sticky.
If everyone had a look at it first then this thread would be dead by now.
Thanks Jomo. To read his wisdom click on this link.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/8277.html
Easy when you look.
Most sites have similar advice available.
Love
Jackie and Ben
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Actually, if you look at the menu "tabs" at the top of this page, one says "dogging". If you click on that tab, you go to the dogging page where the second menu tab becomes "dogging rules". So it exists as a page, not just as a "sticky" on this forum. But of course, people have to want to look for it, otherwise it's no good. The trouble is, nobody seems interested in rules.
Orgasminator
Quote by kimken1
The "ins and outs" and accepted procedure are published on this site. The trouble is, most blokes jump straight to the forum or ads to see who can be shagged and that is as far as they go. Your own post shows that you have no idea of the contents of this site, and indicates that you have not researched your subject. In any case, common courtesy should not require published "rules". Women who visit dogging sites are generally being generous with their favours, they should not be intimidated in the hopes that they will "come accross".
First of, I did check the links about dogging, under dogging rules, the amount of information in there was very limited to say the least.
Perhaps "rules" was a bad choice of words, more a guide to the practical side of things... how to approach, distances that tend to be ok, etc.... For someone trying dogging for the first time irrespective of sex and what they want, there are no real ins and outs.
I totally understand the initial part of this thread, the issue with deciding not to park and play then being followed everywhere by others in the hope you will pull up and they will be the ones there... Very scary for most people, and very disturbing generally.
You mentioned that groups of 4,5,8 or more clustering arround was a problem, yet I have read other posts where people are pissed of because too many lurkers stay well away in the shadows and they want them to come out and play... I guess anyone parking up in a busy dogging spot is going to have lots of lookers, a quiet spot far less, so deciding which one to use seems like the only real choice unless someone is confident enough to say "ok, no more" or "sorry guys we have enough watchers."
Courtesy is one thing I very much agree with, as is politeness which again I believe very strongly in having been swinging for 18 years both as a single and as a couple so I guess your decision to decide whether I had or had not read the limited set of rules and to generally jump on my post may say something, or perhaps I just posted at a bad time.
I totally agree anyone there should not be intimidated, watchers, players, or showers; I don’t however agree that women are being generous with their favours… true there is a large difference in numbers but it is still a symbiotic relationship, without one the other cannot exist.
The sticky referred to in this thread I had not read... basically because I had read all the stickys some time ago and hadn’t seen there was a new one.
Well Jon, the only thing I can say is that if you don't think the lady is granting a favour, then I am glad you live a fair way from us because you would not get a chance to get anywhere near my partner. Arrogance is the problem and that is what started the thread. It does not matter how many people are at a site, it DOES matter how many try to gather round one car, how close they get without invitation and wether or not they try and get in the car uninvited. There is also the problem that some blokes seem to have the opinion that they are at a site to bestow a wonderful gift to any woman that shows up. The general attitude of more and more of the guys attending these sites is getting worse by the day. The rules stated on this site are actually quite sufficient............back the hell off unless invited to do more...........simple really innit?
Sex God
Being a dogger for a number of years, in multiple locations all over the country, with (without bragging) a lot of successful experiences under my belt, I feel I may be able to offer some words of advice here:-
1 Patience is a virtue often rewarded.
2 If in doubt, WATCH, WAIT, WALK AWAY!
3 Be respectful, You “earn†Respect! It’s not a right!
4 The couple are always in the driving seat.
5 Put in as much effort to hygiene, appearance etc as you would like from the lady / couple
These few simple rules have paid dividens for me over the years, I have made many friends of couples and been invited to parties, back to houses, on to other meets and even went on holiday with one couple… Oh and just like the single doggers… couples talk too! If you get a good reputation it goes round.
Cheers
Frogster
1 Patience is a virtue often rewarded.
2 If in doubt, WATCH, WAIT, WALK AWAY!
3 Be respectful, You “earn†Respect! It’s not a right!
4 The couple are always in the driving seat.
5 Put in as much effort to hygiene, appearance etc as you would like from the lady / couple
These few simple rules have paid dividens for me over the years, I have made many friends of couples and been invited to parties, back to houses, on to other meets and even went on holiday with one couple… Oh and just like the single doggers… couples talk too! If you get a good reputation it goes round.
Cheers
Frogster
I must admit I do like to put on a show, and at parties Richard and I often take "centre stage" and perform for the room, as well as sit back and watch for a bit.
I also often do a strip show - an act I have repeated insome of our local bars (before we moved to Bristol) and on holiday. It ensures free drinks if nothing else.
I tend to prefer another woman to join with me, and to watch her enjoy Richard, but do lke to swap with my friends and have a go with their men.
Of course if I want a second guy, or even a third, to join me when I'm with Richard, that can be good, but it depends on the guy. I have to like the look of him, and expect him to wait to be invited.
Dogging for the voyeaurs is watching live porn, and they should enjoy it as that.
If they get invited to join - by the lady - it's a bonus, but they shouldn't expect.
Unfortunately nowadays, as noted above, when going to a location to perform you find it full of guys who are there because they expect sex.
Of course these are the guys who couldn't go to a pub or club and pull. They just expect the girl to be promiscuous. OK, most of us are, but we do have standards!
You would thik the regular guys who are there for the show would protect the "performers" otherwise, if the idiots scare them all off, it's the regular watchers who will suffer most.
We'll still be having sex with each other and other people, even if it's at home.
Where does that leave the voyeurs?
Rachel
I also often do a strip show - an act I have repeated insome of our local bars (before we moved to Bristol) and on holiday. It ensures free drinks if nothing else.
I tend to prefer another woman to join with me, and to watch her enjoy Richard, but do lke to swap with my friends and have a go with their men.
Of course if I want a second guy, or even a third, to join me when I'm with Richard, that can be good, but it depends on the guy. I have to like the look of him, and expect him to wait to be invited.
Dogging for the voyeaurs is watching live porn, and they should enjoy it as that.
If they get invited to join - by the lady - it's a bonus, but they shouldn't expect.
Unfortunately nowadays, as noted above, when going to a location to perform you find it full of guys who are there because they expect sex.
Of course these are the guys who couldn't go to a pub or club and pull. They just expect the girl to be promiscuous. OK, most of us are, but we do have standards!
You would thik the regular guys who are there for the show would protect the "performers" otherwise, if the idiots scare them all off, it's the regular watchers who will suffer most.
We'll still be having sex with each other and other people, even if it's at home.
Where does that leave the voyeurs?
Rachel
