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Single Guys are spoiling it big time!!!

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Quote by JTS

Dogging is, in fact, and I have got this from the site; a combination of voyeurism and Exhibitionism, men being the former and women the latter, now its different strokes for different folks but there still needs to be the respect shown from all.
When all said and done dogging without couples has no future.......

The future is written on the wall (or road).
Dogging, along with cruising and cottaging, is regarded as anti-social behaviour.
Laws protect the gay community from being targeted with action, but they are circumvented by anti-social behaviour laws....which have no need for "proof" for action to be taken (no, no arrests Mr G....but it is being used to close down or limit opening of places).
And with the closure of places, other places become more crowded. And more "active" (as in movement-active).
As for single guys....anyone who stays in one place will miss the action in another (well-known "fact", which explains the amount of movement).
I can't be arsed to drive around, too much fuel used.
Oh, and he's right: I'm never wrong, except when I'm not right.
And the other is right too: I am a complete prat.
I must be, nobody except a prat would sit in a layby for 4 hours with two dozen cars racing up-and-down (and a naked guy walking up-and-down trying to get a wank or blow job.....with a temperature of 3%C......hypodickthermia)
exscuse the pun mate but it sounds like your away with the fairies.......your rambling
I'm really shocked at the negative comments on here & the fact that the original post has been lost along the way.
Big G Im most most shocked by your comment, how would you feel if it was silky that felt intimidated or felt under threat? I like you have been a member of this site for a while & feel that you could have offered more support or advice than "bye then"
JTS sneering at people who only want to show & not "shag"
Dogging was originally men who walked dogs in hope of catching couples on the off chance, yesw I agree for certain couples they have taken it further & have invited guys to join in, but like in all swinging no means NO & its is down to the individual to decide how far they want to go & not up to the 3rd party, anything forceful would surly then be ????
djduck22 I hope you are both ok and that this hasnt put you off totally, maybe take a break and recharge yourselves. Maybe consider going to clubs for a change of scene (much better ettiquette)but what ever you decide I wish you well
Kez xxx

No, dogging was never "men who walked dogs to watch people shagging"
Dogging was men following couples to watch them shagging (as in dogged (adjective) doggedly, dogg-their-every-move)
Terminology
The word 'dogging' (in the main UK sense of 'stalking' or 'pursuing') was used in the 1970s to describe the practice (mainly among sexually curious adolescents and more adult 'Peeping Toms') of sneaking-up on couples having sex in cars in isolated 'lovers' lanes' and watching them whilst remaining undetected.

The Sunday Herald wrote in 2003, "The term dogging originated in the early 1970s to describe men who spied on couples having sex outdoors – these men would 'dog' the couples' every move and watch them."

So, forget the leash.
By all means carry-on the show, I prefer watching because it needs less energy (and at my time of life saving energy is a must). But, don't expect to have a trouble-free time. Get used to starting the show and then finding the "audience" chatting among themselves outside, maybe having a fag and sharing a can of beer (etc).
Everybody has their own preference/s.
Sorry if I ramble a bit, but I tend to get a bit peed-off with the sycophancy that is becoming rampant on the websites now...
Oh, and I do ok at dogging, largely because I sit in the same place and do not drive around all night. I'm VERY respectful to couples, rarely respectful to other "doggers" (most of who are married, shag without rubbers and moan about her indoors all night) and if they want "involvement", I tell them where to go to get what they want (and even 'phone others if needed).
I don't do shagging. Just watching. Most of the time.
Quote by Mc1066
Firstly bloke you can reply and try and be a smart arse all you like picking the pieces out of the comment taking exception to certain words exaggerating the point and making an issue out of a simple statement.

FACT: I really wasn't trying to be smart and actually partly agree with your comment about some single blokes being respectful - although I'd say it was more like 60% based on what I've seen, so sorry you took it that way. It was your other comment on which I felt the need to reply. I was trying to defend myself as somebody that doesn't just sit in desperation for hours on end as you suggested and is happy to take 'anything' that comes along.
FACT: I didn't pick any 'pieces' or take 'exception to certain words' as you state, it was the entire sentence. I simply lifted the whole thing and, in doing so, didn't change or alter the meaning or context of what was actually said.
FACT: Neither did I exaggerate your point. Yes, some of it was 'tongue in cheek', hence why I used the :rascal: To you it's a 'simple statement' maybe. To me, as somebody that Dogs mostly as a single male it's an insult and like most human beings, I'll defend myself if attacked by inaccurate generalisations that really ain't appropriate to me.
FACT: If you going to debate on here then at least do it from a point of logic and fact, not self-opinionated heresay. It holds much more credence.
OPINION: When a single bloke on here doesn't just roll over on his back like a submissive dog and take the 'tarred with the same brush' accusations thrown at him, some people just don't like it. Especially when they debate from a logical rather than a 'because I said so' type perspective.
As a couple, we've just got to say this.......
Listn to yourselves!
All the single guys and we do mean ALL of you banging on about "I'm right, you're wrong" and you ALL believe you have it spot on...well, I'm the female half of a dogging couple and I love the attention of single guys BUT the simple fact is I AM RIGHT and you are ALL WRONG! On the day, it's about what I want, not you and if you pi** me off you will be told to get lost pretty damn quick. I like what I like, simple as that, and I really don't care what you want or how you think it ought to be.
Essentially, we treat ALL single guys as complete idiots until they proove otherwise and before BIloke or anyone else starts complaining about "generalisations", the reason we treat them all like idiots is because in 10 years experience that is how they nearly all behave. We realise as said above that they ALL think THEY are special but believe me guys you're not. Some of you will watch, some of you will barge in, some of you will try to shag anything that moves but you all think that how YOU go about it is the correct way......How bloody arrogant is that?
If you are going to go dogging as a single guy, couples ARE going to treat you with suspicion until you show yourselves to be worthy of more. You may feel you are the salt of the earth, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YOU FROM ADAM! Why the hell should we give any of you the benefit of the doubt.
Quote by dippergt750
If you are going to go dogging as a single guy, couples ARE going to treat you with suspicion until you show yourselves to be worthy of more. You may feel you are the salt of the earth, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YOU FROM ADAM! Why the hell should we give any of you the benefit of the doubt.

And I don't know 'you' from Adam either and don't feel my need to prove myself as 'worthy' to anyone to be honest.
Maybe I am 'special' in terms of the way in which I view this but the power-game you are playing just doesn't wash with me, sorry like! I don't care if you're the female half of the couple or their pet dog in the car to be quite honest - I won't perform because I'm 'worthy' - what a load of bollox :rascal:
If 'we' get on, then it needs to be mutual, otherwise, why bother? Isn't it about everyone enjoying themselves rather than anyone feeling the need to prove themselves?
Some folk need to get a life. They are full of their self importance and they have an opinion about everything. Instead of living their life through a computer they should try living in the real world.
Which is probably why we would tell you to go to hell!
You are quite right, you don't have to proove anything to us........As we said in our last post....YOU ARE RIGHT!
You do it your way.....it is a free country.
Our opinion of course differs somewhat, which is what you don't seem to understand. Your opinion is ONLY CORRECT IN YOUR EYES.
Dear God!
Quote by dippergt750
Which is probably why we would tell you to go to hell!
You are quite right, you don't have to proove anything to us........As we said in our last post....YOU ARE RIGHT!
You do it your way.....it is a free country.
Our opinion of course differs somewhat, which is what you don't seem to understand. Your opinion is ONLY CORRECT IN YOUR EYES.
Dear God!
Nice one lol :lol: :lol:
Quote by dippergt750
Which is probably why we would tell you to go to hell!

There's no need to make it personal.
Besides, you don't play with bi males anyway so it's a no brainer... from both perspectives! lol
And yes, like I said above - my post about how people view this is my opinion and they all differ which is what makes the world a wonderful place.
Icehockeyfans - as usual, you've piggybacked onto a discussion, come into a debate, made a comment that's based on bollox and added very little value. Go play in the bi room while your wife's out shopping wink
BIloke.....you just don't get it do you.......You are STILL banging on trying to insist you are right.....
AND YOU ARE.....BUT ONLY TO YOURSELF.
Our opinion is just that, an opinion, but as you put it earlier...
FACT: The only Fact pertaining is that NO-ONE in this country has to agree with anyone elses opinion.
It only seems personal to you because you get very frustrated that we don't all agree with you. From your attitude, we would not play with you even if you were straight...that is OUR choice and you can't influence that....but trying to insist that you are right is exactly the point we make.
Unfortunately....you are on this forum as a single guy as you say, so now you can post your contradiction and have the last word....which is kinda our point!
Bloke tries to be popular on here... it dosent work rolleyes
I rest my case - you're like a moth to the flame rotflmao
If you actually took the time to read any of my posts you'd realise that it's got NOTHING to do with popularity. As per my last post on this thread:
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/292866.html
Instead - you fire off emotionally driven comments that have no basis in fact.
Carry on - it's fun :thumbup:
I fully agree that you think you are right.
Oh! And that you must have the last word. Watch, since we have responded, you won't be able to resist!
OK... this has strayed off the original post by a wide margin so I'm going to lock it. If someone has a good reason for it to be re-opened my PM box is in the usual place.