Following last nights fiasco:
Those of you reading this who partake of the latest social fad, car-park-socialising.
Go to a pub. Or a club. Or an eatery.
Why do couples meet in a remote car park, and then chat for hours, then depart after agreeing to meet next weekend for the same ?
Get a life people, use the excellent resources that the general public use.
Leave the car parks at night to be used for what the Lord meant them for............sex.
In short, bugger-off.
I'm also less than enthusiastic about the "gangs" of guys chatting in the middle of the places, who break-off the chat when a car comes in and parks, send one of the gang on a recon to check who and what, then continue the chat.
In fact, I'm considering allocating various car parks to the new "chat free zone" scheme, where chat free car parks display a sign.......this sign would be a blue background (reflective) with a yellow dog rampant on a field of pansies with a fist in its mouth.
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Sex God
We agree with everything you say Jomu. Why do they do that? 
Why is it, that when the various couples in cars arrange to meet other couples in car parks, that they never leave their own vehicles, prefering to shout across to each other and alert the neighbours who live nearby? :doh:
We are beginning to think these folks are there purely to stop any action taking place. Maybe the local neighbourhood watch members have arranged it get rid of "unwanted" behaviour happening near them.
Or maybe they're trying to get back to the heady days of their youth when they used to sit in cars to eat their takeaway, but we think they have forgotten what happened after the chips were eaten
Jon & Tracy-Jayne
Why is it, that when the various couples in cars arrange to meet other couples in car parks, that they never leave their own vehicles, prefering to shout across to each other and alert the neighbours who live nearby? :doh:
We are beginning to think these folks are there purely to stop any action taking place. Maybe the local neighbourhood watch members have arranged it get rid of "unwanted" behaviour happening near them.
Or maybe they're trying to get back to the heady days of their youth when they used to sit in cars to eat their takeaway, but we think they have forgotten what happened after the chips were eaten
Jon & Tracy-Jayne
Sex God
Couldn't agree more Jomu.............. If you read the carry-on that I got involved in at a location in Bolton about 10 days ago, it sounds exactly like it's happening everywhere. Guys standing about chatting absolutely does my head in. And they really don't realise that their behaviour is actually putting couples off......................
Oh, makes me sooooooo mad
Oh, makes me sooooooo mad
Let's continue:
Dogging is not going to a car park to chat to another couple, or other guys.
This, I realise, may come as a shock to some.
Dogging is watching others perform sexual acts together.
Dogging is not having sex, it's watching others have sex (on reflection, I suppose with a mirror you could watch yourself and become a self-dogger)
I realise that in some places (2 mile bottom) it is normal for couples to chat to couples and then go away, never having seen a sex act. That's life.
Another thing, why the attitude nowadays ?
If you walk up to a parked car with a couple in, you used to just say Hi...find out if they're up for anything, and watch if they were...now, you get a mouthful....of abuse mainly.
Let me reiterate this point, of past, you aren't going to get a car park with single guys in who won't watch. You may get a car park with single gays in, who will watch the guy, but not one with single guys who'll agree to go away while the couples shag (when they stop talking, after the 6th or 7th meet).
If you don't like this, well....TRAVELODGES to you.
Oh, and to the couple who were shagging in the Aspects car park in Bedford a few weeks ago (red fiat punto)..I'VE SEEN THE VIDEO....DON'T park next to the CCTV....prats.
Dogging is not going to a car park to chat to another couple, or other guys.
This, I realise, may come as a shock to some.
Dogging is watching others perform sexual acts together.
Dogging is not having sex, it's watching others have sex (on reflection, I suppose with a mirror you could watch yourself and become a self-dogger)
I realise that in some places (2 mile bottom) it is normal for couples to chat to couples and then go away, never having seen a sex act. That's life.
Another thing, why the attitude nowadays ?
If you walk up to a parked car with a couple in, you used to just say Hi...find out if they're up for anything, and watch if they were...now, you get a mouthful....of abuse mainly.
Let me reiterate this point, of past, you aren't going to get a car park with single guys in who won't watch. You may get a car park with single gays in, who will watch the guy, but not one with single guys who'll agree to go away while the couples shag (when they stop talking, after the 6th or 7th meet).
If you don't like this, well....TRAVELODGES to you.
Oh, and to the couple who were shagging in the Aspects car park in Bedford a few weeks ago (red fiat punto)..I'VE SEEN THE VIDEO....DON'T park next to the CCTV....prats.
Sex God
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Those of you reading this who partake of the latest social fad, car-park-socialising.
Go to a pub. Or a club. Or an eatery.
Why do couples meet in a remote car park, and then chat for hours, then depart after agreeing to meet next weekend for the same ?
Hey Jomu, nice to see ya posting again. I for one agree with a lot of what you are saying, after all, we have had a moan about it in the past, but I also respect the fact that they have as much right to be somewhere as we do. If someone wants to waste their evening hanging around a car park, talking and putting the world to rights, then so be it. It's up to us whether we want to move on or not, if in fact, it really bothers us at all.
You got to remember, for a lot of single men who have been in the doggin scene for several years now, its a way of life. Sitting for hours on end in the dark has filled years of evenings. It's become ritual. I suspect some of them have developed friendships with others waiting and the friendships have become more successful than their actual dogging experiences.
As long as they treat us with some sense of social courtesy if paths crossed, I feel we really can't ask for more than that.
There's a world of difference between people standing around chatting and people who set off to be annoying or threatening by racing in and out of car parks or act in an aggressive way. Also, to be blunt, if we ended up chatting to another couple....which HAS happened, and someone came along and had a go at us because we were 'just chatting,' I'd f**king lose it!
Silk xxxxxxxx
(speaking on her own behalf, cause Im sure Big G will have something to say about this as well
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Sex God
Just an observation……. And reflecting on the above…..
I moved to the North West from Norfolk a few years ago, but before I did 2 mile bottom was a local dogging spot for me, it used to be very good, to the point you could almost guaranteed some fun would be had any night of the week.
There were times for true dogging sessions and times for social meets, the socials usually were small and discreet, they happened late on a Friday or Saturday night and as a prelude to fun, almost always around a campervan or two, often hosted by some friendly couples with tea and biscuits (soup in winter) an some very hot steamy fun to follow (how I yearn for those days).
On moving North I was surprised on my first visits to some local dogging spots by the crowds of single males who just park and talk, often to the point of filling a car park so there isn’t any space for couples to come and play if they wanted to.
I have some suggestions for these places…..
1. The entrances should be fitted with a numbering ticket machine (like you find in ASDA on the cheese counter) in the forlorn hope that should a couple be able to get in, then the hoards of singles could form a numbered queue.
2. I cant help feeling that there is a business opportunity being missed, a discreet butty wagon selling coffee an bacon barms for the other 50 still waiting in the queue.
3. A weekly raffle.
4. Prizes for the best dogging story (even if it’s made up).
5. Advertise for more doggers, if you outgrow the car park you could apply for a lottery grant to build a bigger and better one, maybe with a proper social club!
6. Special spaces for the Taxi drivers who obviously have priority over all other doggers.
7. Proper lighting so you don’t have to keep your headlights on main beam.
Needless to say, I have since found other alternative car parks that aren’t so crowded were couples come to participate without feeling threatened etc
Each to their own !!!
Frogster
I moved to the North West from Norfolk a few years ago, but before I did 2 mile bottom was a local dogging spot for me, it used to be very good, to the point you could almost guaranteed some fun would be had any night of the week.
There were times for true dogging sessions and times for social meets, the socials usually were small and discreet, they happened late on a Friday or Saturday night and as a prelude to fun, almost always around a campervan or two, often hosted by some friendly couples with tea and biscuits (soup in winter) an some very hot steamy fun to follow (how I yearn for those days).
On moving North I was surprised on my first visits to some local dogging spots by the crowds of single males who just park and talk, often to the point of filling a car park so there isn’t any space for couples to come and play if they wanted to.
I have some suggestions for these places…..
1. The entrances should be fitted with a numbering ticket machine (like you find in ASDA on the cheese counter) in the forlorn hope that should a couple be able to get in, then the hoards of singles could form a numbered queue.
2. I cant help feeling that there is a business opportunity being missed, a discreet butty wagon selling coffee an bacon barms for the other 50 still waiting in the queue.
3. A weekly raffle.
4. Prizes for the best dogging story (even if it’s made up).
5. Advertise for more doggers, if you outgrow the car park you could apply for a lottery grant to build a bigger and better one, maybe with a proper social club!
6. Special spaces for the Taxi drivers who obviously have priority over all other doggers.
7. Proper lighting so you don’t have to keep your headlights on main beam.
Needless to say, I have since found other alternative car parks that aren’t so crowded were couples come to participate without feeling threatened etc
Each to their own !!!
Frogster
Of course you're right Silk....goes without saying....if peeps want to chat, chat.
But there are plenty of well-lit town car parks designed for chatting.
Why move to the country ones ?
And if couples want to meet couples...why be nasty to the guys ?...and having been to the car parks and met nobody, why blame it on the single guys ?
There are websites dedicated to couples meeting couples (try: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/ I hear it's a good site for that (!)
But there are plenty of well-lit town car parks designed for chatting.
Why move to the country ones ?
And if couples want to meet couples...why be nasty to the guys ?...and having been to the car parks and met nobody, why blame it on the single guys ?
There are websites dedicated to couples meeting couples (try: http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/ I hear it's a good site for that (!)
I think you may be missing the point- its a boy racer CAR thing- thats why these guys use car parks- they want to show and compare cars, and of course they want to be as near to their cars as possible. To them they enjoy nothinjg more than spending an evening with their car.... Oh Well.
But after all these ARE car parks, and they are allowed to be in them.
Some places, eg Beacon Fell, don't let cars up after , I think for this reason. Also at Brock its in summer.
But after all these ARE car parks, and they are allowed to be in them.
Some places, eg Beacon Fell, don't let cars up after , I think for this reason. Also at Brock its in summer.
Hmm...a possible new player on the block...
I shall leave it you (susie-k) to read through past postings...bo'racers don't bother me much, they get fed-up with all the drive-bys and go home to mom.
We're talking about other things....
Most car parks belong to the gay community (yes, I know they're "public" places...) and to doggers after dark. We can argue semantics until the doggs go home, BUT.......
Anyway, have fun in your possible new hobby...
I shall leave it you (susie-k) to read through past postings...bo'racers don't bother me much, they get fed-up with all the drive-bys and go home to mom.
We're talking about other things....
Most car parks belong to the gay community (yes, I know they're "public" places...) and to doggers after dark. We can argue semantics until the doggs go home, BUT.......
Anyway, have fun in your possible new hobby...
You know you have a social life in car parks if:
You get pizza delivered. Your life is hectic if you get two delivered.
You go out with a dozen cans of booze, use them all and only drink one.
Your mobile can tell you the location of all condom machines in the eastern/western/northern and southern counties (scotland excepted)
You know the local law by name, and one ends up as your best man (apologies to the gay community)
Any I've missed ?
You get pizza delivered. Your life is hectic if you get two delivered.
You go out with a dozen cans of booze, use them all and only drink one.
Your mobile can tell you the location of all condom machines in the eastern/western/northern and southern counties (scotland excepted)
You know the local law by name, and one ends up as your best man (apologies to the gay community)
Any I've missed ?
Sex God
Yes, you missed one Jomu:
You know that people will never park in the space you like, cos they KNOW it's your spot :haha: - a bit like a favourate armchair
You know that people will never park in the space you like, cos they KNOW it's your spot :haha: - a bit like a favourate armchair
jomu,jomu,lighten up mate!as a couple,we do sometimes enjoy the social aspect of dogging girls make an effort with clothes etc,and enjoy the attention this brings from the guys,its called exhibitionism mate,it makes the girls feel horny,and gives you guys something to look at,its not hurting anyone and we are not asking you to waste your time,if you have better things to see or do,fine,go away!dont stand there,uninvited,with your hands in your pockets complaining that things are not going further!sometimes the girlies want to play with,or watch other girlies,and so are there for the same reasons as you,its no big deal is it? truth is,most couples banter involves cock size and performance comparisons relating to you doggers,you would be amazed what info we share about you!!
oooh,and while i'm on me high horse,your point about not responding to this,bring your girlfriend or wife out with you next time,(ok,i'm bieng silly)then sit there with the window someone walks past with the obligatory "ok mate"?respond with a cheery see how long it takes before every dogger on the site has his head through your window,you are choking on ciggy fumes and halitosis,your head is spinning trying to answer questions about suspension units and auto transmition boxes,your missus is asleep and you cant get out for a piss for fear of giving out the wrong ,when you drive off,overhearing comments like,prickteasers,timewasters and piss-takers,see how long it is before you find it less hassle to just let em walk face it mate,if my missus gets the hots for someone,we tell them!its so much easier than incuring the wrath of those she doesnt want to play with,just because we said "hello".
Sex God
Hmmmm.....
As a female dogger, I'd prefer a guy to come over to the car and say hi than have to watch him standing a distance away with his hands in his pockets looking bored. It's worse when a group of guys gather a distance away, chatting away to themselves. It makes me think they're up to something other than dogging and puts me right off. At least if a guy comes over and says hi, I know what his intentions are. Then I can decide whether he will get lucky or not. If guys know each other and want to have a chat, fine, fair enough, but it's very rude if they are expecting sex but won't even let me in on their conversation! I'm not one for chatting a great deal while dogging, but if I'm bored or the situation isn't right, then I'd rather chat than sit there wondering what the fuck the group of guys are talking about about 10 yards away! I take your point, dirtydoggers, that saying hi to one guy means that others might get the wrong impression, but I'm quite well versed in telling hangers-on to piss off. If they think I'm rude, fuck it, they weren't gonna get lucky anyway! It's the same in clubs to a certain extent, and at cruising spots too.
Oh, soooooo annoying!
As a female dogger, I'd prefer a guy to come over to the car and say hi than have to watch him standing a distance away with his hands in his pockets looking bored. It's worse when a group of guys gather a distance away, chatting away to themselves. It makes me think they're up to something other than dogging and puts me right off. At least if a guy comes over and says hi, I know what his intentions are. Then I can decide whether he will get lucky or not. If guys know each other and want to have a chat, fine, fair enough, but it's very rude if they are expecting sex but won't even let me in on their conversation! I'm not one for chatting a great deal while dogging, but if I'm bored or the situation isn't right, then I'd rather chat than sit there wondering what the fuck the group of guys are talking about about 10 yards away! I take your point, dirtydoggers, that saying hi to one guy means that others might get the wrong impression, but I'm quite well versed in telling hangers-on to piss off. If they think I'm rude, fuck it, they weren't gonna get lucky anyway! It's the same in clubs to a certain extent, and at cruising spots too.
Oh, soooooo annoying!
Sex God
Big G steps up to the mic
Welcome back Jomu , the chat about dogging has been so much more optimistic while you werent posting -weve missed you .
I may sound like a broken record but ...................from what I gather a certain large number of things annoy you mate about the way other people have sex in car parks ( or dont have sex in car parks as the case may be ) . Now ive always loved your reasonably witty way of putting your whinges , and so have sat back and enjoyed them , but Ive gotta say its getting a bit old now.
There are lots of things you dont like about the dogging scene ( or whatever you want to call it) in fact it would seem many more things you dislike than those you like. Seems your options are limited really . You could approach the parties concerned and point out that the way they are conducting themselves doesnt meet with your ultimate definition of dogging and therefore could they leave the carpark , or mayhaps you could make arrangements for a totally new form of dogging environment that is totally controlled , antiseptic , bound by strict rules and leaves no doubt about exactly how the participants behave . I suppose the last option would be to just stop doing it , and stop torturing yourself. Once again as always I have to say , which ever of the options you were to choose taking that option just a tad less seriously would do your psyche a great deal of good.
My Grandma always used to say if youve nuffink good to say say nuffink , and she was wise and sage and rarely missed on a yankee bet so I reckon that may apply here . Or maybe it would be kewl if the admin on the board split the dogging section into two bits ......................suggest maybe Board One " Dogging Discussions and Arrangements" Board Two " Jomu and Friends " .
We all know you only whinge when youre not getting the bullseyes mate , so you must have had a successful few weeks since it got warm , or you would have posted more . Stop looking for reasons why you arent hitting the target and go back out , theres lots of fun to be had .
Wishing you well
G
Welcome back Jomu , the chat about dogging has been so much more optimistic while you werent posting -weve missed you .
I may sound like a broken record but ...................from what I gather a certain large number of things annoy you mate about the way other people have sex in car parks ( or dont have sex in car parks as the case may be ) . Now ive always loved your reasonably witty way of putting your whinges , and so have sat back and enjoyed them , but Ive gotta say its getting a bit old now.
There are lots of things you dont like about the dogging scene ( or whatever you want to call it) in fact it would seem many more things you dislike than those you like. Seems your options are limited really . You could approach the parties concerned and point out that the way they are conducting themselves doesnt meet with your ultimate definition of dogging and therefore could they leave the carpark , or mayhaps you could make arrangements for a totally new form of dogging environment that is totally controlled , antiseptic , bound by strict rules and leaves no doubt about exactly how the participants behave . I suppose the last option would be to just stop doing it , and stop torturing yourself. Once again as always I have to say , which ever of the options you were to choose taking that option just a tad less seriously would do your psyche a great deal of good.
My Grandma always used to say if youve nuffink good to say say nuffink , and she was wise and sage and rarely missed on a yankee bet so I reckon that may apply here . Or maybe it would be kewl if the admin on the board split the dogging section into two bits ......................suggest maybe Board One " Dogging Discussions and Arrangements" Board Two " Jomu and Friends " .
We all know you only whinge when youre not getting the bullseyes mate , so you must have had a successful few weeks since it got warm , or you would have posted more . Stop looking for reasons why you arent hitting the target and go back out , theres lots of fun to be had .
Wishing you well
G
Well, it has been a shite month...with a few exceptions....apart from having a show hijacked by two truckers with menaces, it has been relatively quiet.
Maybe you're right, it's time to call it a day.
The "fave" layby had three doggers parked-up tonight, with the obligatory drive-bys doing their flits from one site to the next.
I've either got to find a site nobody knows about, which isn't going to happen.
Take up arranged dogging, which is also not going to happen.
Or get back into society.
Option three I think !
Fortunately, unlike many others, I never get physically involved...so it won't be a wrench.
Once you go from being a watcher to being someone who expects a shag-a-show you're usually lost...
Maybe you're right, it's time to call it a day.
The "fave" layby had three doggers parked-up tonight, with the obligatory drive-bys doing their flits from one site to the next.
I've either got to find a site nobody knows about, which isn't going to happen.
Take up arranged dogging, which is also not going to happen.
Or get back into society.
Option three I think !
Fortunately, unlike many others, I never get physically involved...so it won't be a wrench.
Once you go from being a watcher to being someone who expects a shag-a-show you're usually lost...
Sex God
Which ever you choose mate im sure youll do it with style
yeah,we know where you are coming from bluexxx,its not that we have anything against talking to the guys,in fact we have made some good friends that ,the problem lies in the duration,if a dogger wants to come over and introduce himself,fine,we have no problem with that,its just that in our experience,it rarely stops bieng polite is misinterpreted as bieng interested,which,in our book is two different couple we know,recently got into a pleasant conversation with three "watchers",after the chat ended,they re-appeared in uniform,and threatned them with arrest!so i'm not convinced that talking is any guarantee of good intent!!but we take your valid viewpoints anyway.
Sex God
Yeah, I know chatting to someone and them appearing friendly is no guarantee that they're genuine, but if someone is prepared to chat at least you get the option to check them out. Guys who are stand-offish are just so rude it pisses me off right from the outset! Of course, if a bloke is going to get aggressive one of his tactics might be to lull you into a false sense of security ao you will think he's a nice guy then he can get close enough to rob you or whatever - a reason why it is sensible NEVER to take any sort of valuable with you. Those that are not into robbery and want to committ a person-crime are more tricky, but as long as you're on your guard you're usually OK. I don't think the couple you are talking about had anything to worry about with the police. They can admit to sitting in a car park looking for sex til they're blue in the face and the police can't arrest them of any crime unless someone sees them and complains. What's more scary though is that at one place I know there were geezers going round pretending to be police so they could rob people - now that's weird!
The joys of outdoor sex, eh - all part of a day's dogging
The joys of outdoor sex, eh - all part of a day's dogging
Orgasminator
lol have yoou seen the video bum fights, oh please no dont bring it here
the points you are making bluexxx are true,and wise,its just that for us,the cold shoulder treatment is sometimes tend to get accused of bieng "talkers" at our venue,which is unfair,as we never actually instigate conversations with i said before,we aint knocking it,if it works for you,great,but for us,we enjoy the company of a few guys,and another couple,beyond that,the chat becomes overwhelming!the couple that were threatned with arrest,were actually playing!!the undercover cops watched the girl on girl "action" for 15 minutes,before engaging one couple in conversation,after which,they displayed thier true colours and read them the riot act!!the force in question anticipate a 6million budget overspend this year,wonder why!!oh well,council tax rises will cover it again!
Sex God
Well, seems the cops had the right idea that time - watch the show first and then do their job 
.... tax payers money indeed .
.... tax payers money indeed . 