This sound like another good reason to PM about meets!!!!!!!!, as you not only find a quite place where you can enjoy yourselfs, but you can also pick the type of person that you would like to play with.
As a relatively new dogger and a single male it saddens me that some single males behave this way. The whole scene relies on couples enjoying the experience in an exciting but non-threatening environment - if single males cant follow the rules it will ruin it for everybody.
All I can say is that there are single male doggers out there that are determined to keep the faith and respect the rules. I hope this experience doesnt out you or other couples off, as we all know it can be great fun for everyone with the right attitude!
even me and some fellow doggers in the north west are getting fed up with the idiots who are ruining the dogging scene in a big way i hope u have better luck next time
Well thats another great evening ruined by the looks of it. I am a lone male who some nights goes around the various local dogging spots and Im getting pissed off as well with the blokes who deliberately have full beam shining into your car as the do the turns I tend to stay for at least 30 mins in one palce and certain vehciles are round and round like nobodys business.
in the last month I have seen 4 seperate couples frightened off by this sort of behaviour.
I quite frequently chat to one couple who I know and even they are getting fed up. I know them as friends which is slightly diffferent but never the less most annoying.
Wherever you are from I wish you all the best and hope you ahve some peace and quiet somewhere.
I live near walsall and I know of a couple of quite places that idiots dont seem to have found yet but am not saying in here as the peace will soon be shattered.
Take care
Hrny DAve in Walsall/Birmingham/Sandwell area
Well, this is the usual situation.
Unfortunately, there are always going to be some who don't follow our rules, just theirs: The end justifies the means.
The most worrying aspect is that after an event, the ones who follow are the ones who never leave the car.
I've seen this quite a few times now.
It's a sign of the times.
Many couples never give any signal at all anyway, and one is puzzled at the complaint about the walkbyes....If there is no sign it is to be expected that people will walk past. Maybe a foot away is too close. The rules are not set in concrete and quite a few "shows" never give any sign at all, ever.
In any case, at several of the well-used sites you are lucky to have only 3 guys near you...at two-mile-bottom about a dozen is the norm.
As for the "avoidance-of-knobheads-who-follow"....good advice is to always have a route out sorted, which will take you to a pub or restaurant (or filling station), never forgetting to leave the car in sight. Handbags and cards locked away and NO addressed envelopes or anything else anywhere to be seen. If you want one guy and not where you started, just have a few handwritten cards with a pay-as-you-go mobile number and work it out.
You gotta remember, youse de guys wiv de con-trol, deys de guys wiv no choice.
And don't be afraid to say if you don't want loads of guys, if they cannot take a hint just drive a distance away...some will get the hint. Maybe !
It seems the same all over, these type of people attract unwanted attention from the law too & it pisses me off that someone you may have arranged to meet ends up being frightened off by these idiots!. Don't let it put you off Rob & Marie, there are genuine male doggers out there.
Regards
SteveO
This type of behaviour is certainly not a one off as shown by the comments on here. Also, don't think that single men in this forum wouldn't act this way, because we know one that does.
Thank you for your comments everyone. We are certainly not put off by this. We just wanted to highlight how creepy and inconsiderate actions spoil things for everyone.
I suppose there is always the possibility that they were trying to intimidate you into leaving so they could get on with their drug dealing or what have you.
Hi Rob & Marie
May I first point out Marie that I am the guy that rang you I believe it was the week before last and immediately realised you only wanted couples, I then wished you luck and made the final comment that hopefully 1x day you would seek single males..... we both laughed and I rang off. With the IDIOTS about that you have encountered no wonder you don't want to meet single males....... I can only apologise from all of us genuine guy's that will never meet the likes of yourselves because you have been frightened off. I guess its the same idiots that wonder why the police are now taking an interest in known dogging sites accross the country...... the behaviour that you encountered beggers belief, I can only hope that you do find the fun you seek before giving up for ever.
I wish you luck
Take care
Trevor :cry:
It doesn't beggar belief at all.
When "dogging" changed from being a watchers game, to one where the adherents EXPECTED to join-in as almost a right, THEN it changed to the melee we've got today.
The majority of those guys were undoubtably married, and on a short leash. Most are nowadays. Probably out for "a quicky with the lads".
All they want is a quick "dip of the wick". Most aren't interested in a "show", they just want a "go".
The sites are nice and quiet later at night...none of the "knobheads" are out because the wife won't let them. I've had some good shows late at night, early in't morning. The past few weeks have been quite pleasant.
Haven't been to Milton Keynes for a while, too many "car-park-cowboys" about with their 4 wheeled substitute phallus. So stuck to two sites fairly local. The local in-town site is full of turds with big headlights and small brains again, and also the bo'racers...who at least HAVE a brain.
It's also worth noting the latest "sod 'em" routine....waiting until some guys are around a show and then splashing the headlights over everything and waiting...quite pathetic really...but what do you expect.
Now, if every OTHER site had a no-names-no-times rule, things would quiet down in a short while.
Thank god I don't go dogging! :shock:
Steve
I visited on the way back froma relative last night Ansons BAnk again and surrounding area.
I arrived at Ansons around 9;45pm. It was relatively quiet and I parked near about three car lengths (longways) away from two cars not knowing whetehr there was a couple there or not in one of the cars.
As usual as I was turning I knocked heasdlights on to side lights not to blind. About ten mins later a car drove in full headlights did the lighthouse thing and reversed into one of the spaces, full headlights were on me for about a minuite before he turned them off.
So what was his game, the idiot.
Im not a regular up there now but am at others, getting pretty good at predicting the cars that will be back adn in what time spell.
Earlier on that evening had spent almost an hour sitting two car widths away from a couple they were cleaning the inside of the car after a bit. Very pleasant, asked the guy if he had seen a coupel of friends of mine since his window was down. Nothing happened but thats the beauty of waiting you never know. Usual headlight people roudn and round.
Personally if I find a couple in a car I tend to stop some way away and put my interior light on for a little while so they know exactly who is in the car (thats if they are watching). If they drive off then I know straight away they are not interested, if they stay I stay unless they say anything until they have gone and then if Im want to go elsewhere I wait until they are out of sight. Thats my way of doing things, whetehr right or wrong but have been very lucky in the past for a good show. A number of times have been invited to play adn been lucky on two seperate occassions to go further.
To me a good show is just as important as going further which is just icing on the cake so to speak.
To all the genuine doggers out there continue to be courtesious and patient. To all the idiots, well you wont read this anyhow I suppose.
Anyhow all the best Rob and MArie
And if you want to reply direct Rob/MArie I will give you the part of my reg and then you can see how courtious I am.
:cry: being a full time dogger for 4 years..........i no what its like i some times have to get ouy of my car andtell others to fuck iam sitting alone in my car that makes me laugh..they get so close i have to tell them sadly the good places have been put on the net and that brings in wankers and they no who they are ,,,iam sorry 4 u 2.......become like them and piss them off say go away.....it works....good luck and thanks 4 the joy you bring to gentlemen doggers,,,,,,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :twisted:
What, you mean they get out of the car in your neck-of-the-woods ?
I think the ones in my shire county are rooted to the car seat.
roband marie you have your sympatse sa it haped to us if you read (penilergaer page 3 dogging ) you will see what we mean dont let them get to you :taz:
Perhaps single guys are different up in Blackburn to the ones in Dorset, because I would say that a good 70% of the single guys around are discourteous in some way or another. :dry: We'll not let them deter us though, it's they who will miss out!
Bravo...this is so true. And then guys wonder why the dogging scene in Dorset is dead!
Another thing, if people didn't keep advertising dogging locations then curious idiots with intentions of spoiling it for the rest would probably not even know where to go. I believe all the recent publicity in the media has alerted a lot of local people of a scene they have been quite happyly living with for years, but now they know it's going on near to where they live, have pressured councils and alike to shut down these spots. Look at how many sites in Dorset are now all locked up at night, or fenced off and the increased levels of policing that goes on.
So, apart from the above, if you don't want to spoil the fun for yourselves, stop keep thinking it's big to tell everybody about it!
Are any of you out and about during the day on Sunday.
Would love to be iniated into the Dorset scene as previously I have heard great things about the area.
Im male, st8, up for fun and games and willing to travel.
Happy to spend part of sunday driving for a couple of hours to see the sights.
Discrete, and happy to go with the flow.
Mail me, don't post info on the site
My last post should have included sunday evening. Not too late though, I need my sleep
8)
You can expect many more sites to close in the coming year, or be drastically altered.
This is a strategy designed to manage public sex environments.
It is a partnership between local police forces and various government (local and national) organisations, including various trusts such as the widlife trust amd the woodlands trust.
I acquired a draft copy of the Byrne report last year, which looked into this situation....it has since been remover from public access at the university.
A copy of it still resides on this site somewhere.
The report had such an effect on my local borough council, which was unaware at admin level of PSEs', that it has decided to close all local park car parks at nights, this year.
And before you start preaching about "everyone should keep quiet", it is all who use car parks etc for sex that are at fault.
My council has been collecting information about this for a year...from the guys who have to clean the things up...of ALL rubbish.
It will save some per year to close ONE town centre car park in rubbish collection costs alone.
Never mind that some of the guys refuse to pick up the used rubbers for infection fears.
I have started a group JUST for this file to be downloadable, it is at:
The file is a PDF file and is in the FILES section, download as usual...
Note that every council got a copy.
Hi Jomu...always nice to have a balanced discussion and yes, take your point completely...perhaps it's inevitable that this scene will be closed down...perhaps it should be! The point being that whilst consenting grown-ups want this lifestyle, and others don't, the minority quite rightly will have to operate with the upmost of descretion. Anything in life should be done without causing any harm or offence to others (or the environment!). Clearly, the fact that many senior people in local gov'mt were never aware of PSE's before this report and the recent media hype, demonstrates that previously there was a reasonably good balance. That appears to now be in decline. We fully accept that it's totally un-acceptable for practicioners to discard rubbish and such like that cause offense, health risk and costs money for the authorities to clean-up. That's not just something to do with dogging - just good manners and and a consciensous social attitude.
We'll read the report with a great deal of interest...and an open mind. Many thanks for the responsible comment.
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. It is normally acceptable for guys to express an interest by watching from a distance, but it isn't acceptable for them to come right up to your car without an invite (such as a wave or flashing lights etc). It is the following you to several different car parks that beggars belief - after the first one I would have thought any reasonable person would have realised that you did not wish to be watched! They sound like sad desperates to me and I can't believe that they thought they were going to get anything positive from behaving in this way 
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