The Dogging Evolution

29 Jul 2006

Dogging is a predominantly British activity that involves outdoor exhibitionism in car-parks, wooded areas and the like. The term dogging originated in the early Seventies to describe men who spied on couples having sex outdoors. These men would 'dog' the couples' every move in an effort to watch them. When the swinging scene discovered that open-air sex has its own special thrill they began meeting in car-parks, and the doggers found a new and rich supply of voyeuristic fun. Moreover, the doggers soon realised that these couples were actively encouraging them to watch, even performing for them, and sometimes allowing them to join in.
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Before I start this I just want to say that Im not after starting WW3, Im not having a dig at anyone, and Im not saying that anyone else's definition of dogging is right or wrong.
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Lately, I am seeing more and more posts from couples asking to meet other couples, and clearly stating no single males. I am really struggling to understand why anyone would want to go dogging but not want any singles. I always thought that was what dogging was all about - voyerists and exhibitionists 'helping' each other out. As I said above, this is not a dig in anyway, I am just trying to understand why, and if this is the next stage of the evolution of dogging - couples only.
There also seems to be the usual flood of singles asking to meet couples and some state that if necessary they would be happy JUST to watch. Again, not a dig, but I did think dogging was about watching, and joining in was something that occassionally happened. Is this another stage in the evolution?
What Im asking is what do you class as dogging? Is it meeting other couples for outdoor sex, is it going out and watching another couple having fun, or is it what I think of as outdoor swinging were you are meeting someone with the main reason being to have sex with them?
Obviously things change, evlove even and dogging itself has obviously changed with the introduction of things like the intranet and articles in National Newspapers (Im not going down the pro's and con's of these, as these are two completely different topics) rolleyes

but has dogging as we know it, now died and turned into what I class as outdoor swinging?
Would love to hear other peoples opinions and definitions.

29 Jul 2006

Nope, I'm entirely with you on this NWC. I can never understand the couples who advertise for other couples - that's not dogging, it's outdoor swinging IMO.
I think where the "I am happy JUST to watch" thing comes from is things like tabloid newspapers - they always give the impression that rampant couples are out there and every guy who is within a 5 mile radius is guaranteed a shag or at the very least a BJ rolleyes

Obviously some guys know this is not the case and to prove their point, they maybe feel the need to suggest they will watch only.
Personally I think it's a sad scenario. When Jon and I began dogging three years ago, we always had to invite the guys to join in, they were never as pushy and expectant as they are when we go out these days.
We are still in contact with several of the guys we met on our very first few tentative outings. They were all so nice, we often swapped phone numbers, met up for just drinks etc.
If we go out now, we seldom ask their names, let alone give them out phone numbers. Most of them are way too pushy and expect that any woman out after 9pm is a piece of meat to be used as they see fit - because they read it in a newspaper :roll: confused

As for the couples thing - I've read more than a few times on here about couples who have *had to drive off* or *had the night spoiled by single men watching* :?
dunno

Isn't that what it's all about? It's basically one step up from being watched by a peeping tom and that is where it's origin lie, so surely if you don't want to be watched, you don't go out in car parks at night where you know guys will be hanging around waiting :undecided:
The dogging couples only thing? Outdoor swinging? Nah. Sorry, just don't get it. :dunno: :lol2:
Give me half a dozen polite single guys everytime ;-) :twisted:
T-J

29 Jul 2006

100% agree there nwc
Not a dogger myself but understand what you say.
One point is some profiles state no males just to fend of winks and PM's but are not strictly against single males. I found this after some fliting and banter with a lady on here in the cafe forum but was unwilling to make contact due to the no single male tag until one day she invited me to her pvt gallery and ordered me to her PM box herself.
But your point still holds true.

29 Jul 2006

Thanks for the replies Redhot and Goose and Im not saying it is wrong to say you only want to meet couples, or its wrong to say no males to come on a dogging trip, Im trying to understand if this is what dogging is becoming.
Has the old fashioned 'get caught in the act' style dogging died a death, and has dogging evolved more into a 'outdoor' swinging scenario with only couples allowed to participate.
Im questionning, not condeming, but I have to say the old fashioned type of dogging, with the guys that Redhot mentioned in her post, are the way we like it :twisted:

29 Jul 2006

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Lately, I am seeing more and more posts from couples asking to meet other couples, and clearly stating no single males. I am really struggling to understand why anyone would want to go dogging but not want any singles. I always thought that was what dogging was all about - voyerists and exhibitionists 'helping' each other out. As I said above, this is not a dig in anyway, I am just trying to understand why, and if this is the next stage of the evolution of dogging - couples only.
There also seems to be the usual flood of singles asking to meet couples and some state that if necessary they would be happy JUST to watch. Again, not a dig, but I did think dogging was about watching, and joining in was something that occassionally happened. Is this another stage in the evolution?
What Im asking is what do you class as dogging? Is it meeting other couples for outdoor sex, is it going out and watching another couple having fun, or is it what I think of as outdoor swinging were you are meeting someone with the main reason being to have sex with them?
quote]very interesting bit here mm ,nwc think now as ints been highly broadcasted ie the net the newspapers ,its getting more racers out and now cpls can take there pick of different scenarios now,the cpls meeting cppls bit well we know a few who will go out in the car ,play in front of a male let them watch but are horrifyed about entering within a club .what is dogging classsed as,its been quoted in newspapers,but now we think you use it as you want .we go dogging for our personal fantasys for what we want ,mind you get quiete a few twisty emails about what we look for ,but in a way thats good because if a new person we chat to now shows the real him/her we know we aint missed out. be nice to see some single male input in this thread maybe what they like to happen while out dogging or would be content with . any hope every one whop goes out on the nights find what you all looking for as its all fun in the end but spoiled by the again thats why we look to the 45 and over age range right off to write a dogging song lol

29 Jul 2006

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
very interesting bit here mm ,nwc think now as ints been highly broadcasted ie the net the newspapers ,its getting more racers out and now cpls can take there pick of different scenarios now,:

The papers and the internet do have a lot to answer to, but we could fill the whole forum with moans about how the papers ruined so many good sites.

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
the cpls meeting cppls bit well we know a few who will go out in the car ,play in front of a male let them watch but are horrifyed about entering within a club .,:

Im the same, no worries in a car park but get me in a club, and I am in total panic mode. I just cant relax, cant enjoy myself and end up coming home (still with a towel wrapped round me) after half an hour.

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
we go dogging for our personal fantasys for what we want ,.,:

For me, thats what dogging is all about, one very large personal fantasy! :twisted: I have so many things I would just love to try (usually connected to picnic benches but I wont go there) wink

and I feel that even our 'style' of dogging as changed, from the old keep the doors locked and the windows closed, to something more adventerous like over the bonnet, and then moving onto invovling some close friends, but however or whatever we do, the thrill is still the 'being watched' aspect of it, rather than the physical sex which could be done anywhere.

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
mind you get quiete a few twisty emails about what we look for ,but in a way thats good because if a new person we chat to now shows the real him/her we know we aint missed out. be nice to see some single male input in this thread maybe what they like to happen while out dogging or would be content with . any hope every one whop goes out on the nights find what you all looking for as its all fun in the end but spoiled by the again thats why we look to the 45 and over age range right off to write a dogging song

I must say that I also do prefer the more mature guy, but if they are only watching and seem to have a bit of sense then I dont really mind. I do however, feel a little uncomfortable if the guy looks young enough to be my son!
We do go out with another couple and do have a brilliant night, but as I said, Im not knocking anyones style or preference (it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same thing) Im trying to understand why it is becoming a couples only thing and if the single doggers do feel that it has become an easy way to 'get a shag' activity.

29 Jul 2006

oh hun i dont think your knocking any one prefrences maybe its the way i wrote this,so dont think that kiss

maybe a lot of cpls meet cpls now maybe to make it cheaper than paying entrance fees? we state we dont play with single males but let them watch,have done in clubs also.i do know how you feel about clubs have read that before ,we did to ,first time in a club not really knowing what we were into ,just packed went ,adn had a cpl saying"yer we were like that ,you will be swapping n etc "by the end of the night,could of put us off,but we waited and tryed again ,had a lot of successfell meets and a lots of freinds from club this site the internet net because now what you see is what you get,we eveen take people to our local club and promise to sit down stairs to be let them take it all in ,and have never went home dissapointed if it never happened ,might you heard a lot of comments about latter said ,and thats what we find hard to take in the ones that complain if it dont happen ,mind you theres a lot of things we find hard to take in even though nothing shocks us ,must say been guilty of going to munches and being quietly sitting in the shy corner,lol but now we have opened up and even done our own socials and we we really enjoy that part to ,cause think we are getting the social side back on swinging heaven after the upheavel mind you love to mod the chat rooms think thats the next part that need to get more social any way you 2 keep up the good work.

29 Jul 2006

It's been going "that" way for a few years now....
At one time the couple-wanting-couple would drive in and be "acosted" by the usual wandering-guy-with-most-bottle and after explaining their want/need they would either be told there were no other couples here and go, or be told where there was likely to be a stray couple or two.
Now it seems to be mainly couples wanting couples, and the show couple seem to have disappeared (for now)
And is it my imagination, or have they got a lot more insulting now ?
Throwing so many "fuck-offs" at people when they walk past seems to be a bit silly, given that they're in a carpark with about 10 guys per couple ratio.....it's a good job most guys are placid...but that won't last for too long either.
maybe "we" could have a whip-around and give them the entrance fee for a swingers club ?
A guy I know was at the Thetford site last night....he said it was all swingers and no players......sad !

30 Jul 2006

Err, I agree with all the above! It does seem strange in a dogging environment and the term 'outdoor swinging' would seem more appropriate as a description for the couples only posts cool

30 Jul 2006

Yeh..............

31 Jul 2006

Well, it would have been nice if some of the newer members could have given their perspective on dogging, and perhaps on the way it seems to be changing rolleyes

Oh well, I suppose it just shows that dogging as actually died and it has become an outdoor swinging event ................................................

31 Jul 2006

No, dogging hasn't died. It has "forked" if you like. The old way is still going, with couples just wanting to be watched. But the new(er) type is in the ascension....with guys just wanting to shag anything that stands still long enough. However, as has been mentioned, the couples seem to be changing.....it seems that the male is less inclined to stand about while the other half either gets used, or gets fun (take your pick).
I was having a chat to the male side of what used to be a good playing couple last weekend....he stopped the playing part when he finally got pissed off with all the guys shoving him out of the way, now they just do clubs and houses.....as he said, he can get some action as well now.
My local layby is now a couple-barren zone, the truckers have taken it over....but they aren't interested in watching....so nobody uses it anymore....but the carparks with height restriction on are still going....even the ones with cams watching the entrance !

31 Jul 2006

Jomu I dont know if I should be saying worship

so I will just do both!

31 Jul 2006

Sorry guys but we have to disagree, we arent knocking coupkes that are out looking for single guys or vice versa, everybody is free to choose, butwho makes the rules that say couples shouldnt meet couples in the same arent against meeting a polite, non pushy single guy to watch us butover the past 2 weekends they have been few and far between. O.K there can be some ignorant couples too. Surely everyone pleases themselves what they are after.

31 Jul 2006

We understand completely what you are saying Naughty, we think (if thatâ€™s worth anything) that people looking to show for the first time, must really get put off, by the posts, and many have put examples in the above ones, The well know car parks are so well dogged, that it must be a really harrowing first time experience if you where unlucky enough to know no better, Maybe people are asking for couples thinking that it maybe a safer option confused

: , not all of us are fighters you know, Mr hot considers himself more of a lover, and to be quite honest couldnâ€™t punch his way out of a paper bag (sorry love) rolleyes

, But the thing you say about exhibitionists helping out voyeurs and vice versa is dead right, it would be interesting to find out how many couples that could be guaranteed the option of a safe single male would also plump for that? Could also the standard of posts from single males have a little to do with this :?: please discuss

31 Jul 2006

Quote by eyorkscpl
butwho makes the rules that say couples shouldnt meet couples in the same places..

i'm not so sure its the issue of couples looking for couples in carparks..after all, they are public places, and gays, bisexuals, transvestites, police, boy racers and families having a picnic all use those places observations are, that there has been a huge influx of swinging swap couples, looking for couple only..the issue being..the doggers, as in the single guys are often being verbally lambasted as "sad" losers...we aren't saying you are one of those couples, we are sure you aren't..but to turn the comment around, the upsurge in carpark swingers has heightened the attitude that such places are in fact al-fresco swap arenas where dogging fellas are considered an irritation...many of the fellas are impolite and pushy, granted..but increasingly we are being approached by couples, who soon turn the conversation into some anti single male rant..the assumption that every showcouple are actually swingers without an oppertunity gets a little irritating sometimes lol

as a result, we no longer use those larger, more well known carparks to "show" in, although we'll sometimes visit to meet old buddies :lol: the discontent is evident on the forums though, as swinging couples are, shock horror, "dogged" by guys :shock: :lol: then can't get home fast enough to share the grim news via the dogging board rolleyes

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another post, in another place has cited a certain carpark as being devoid of "cuties" :lol: searching for cutie only is fair enough..none of my business..but for our money, just driving into a carpark, and having a good ole sweaty FUCK :twisted: with your own partner, :shock: with the windows up, and the doors closed and not giving a SHIT what the fellas look like, smell like, how big their knobs are or what their marital status is..is just soooo much easier..thats why we ain't often caught moaning about dogging :lol: now if we were looking for cutie only, or couple only..without the attendant inconvenience of less than adonis creeping amongst the undergrowth to steal a glimpse..then yeah, we'd have plenty to whine about i guess :lol:
just a quick note to the old, fat, ugly guys out there...you come and dogg yer uncle and aunty dirty anytime fellas..you'll be more than welcome by our window..bless ya wink

31 Jul 2006

Quote by hotcoupleincar
Maybe people are asking for couples thinking that it maybe a safer option :t the thing you say about exhibitionists helping out voyeurs and vice versa is dead right, it would be interesting to find out how many couples that could be guaranteed the option of a safe single male would also plump for that?

the trouble with "guaranteed" is that its never guaranteed :lol: i'd say the success rate of just going out and doing it is way, way higher than arranging via the net..but increasingly, i'm of the opinion its a norfolk thing :lol: :lol:
its hard to get the message across to the single fellas, that spontaneous dogging is an attitude of mind that appeals to some, not all couples..and some, but not all doggers..we've done, and failed at the arranged stuff, although it was only ever a light hearted diversion..its not something that could ever replace the thrill of going out on a whim..no script, no envisaged scenario..just in the moment, come what may...its the way "the master" does it, its the way "jomu" does it..but its not for everyone...for us, there is no alternative..i'd suspect the same were true of the aforementioned dogging legends too wink

31 Jul 2006

We seem to be getting caught up in this debate more and more frequently and i am fairly sure the answer is a fairly simple one!!
I think dogging, in its origional sense (ie the dictionary definition) is probably what the very true and undiluted cpl seek to do for there sexual thrills, we however do prefer cpls to meet up with and dont see anything wrong or incorrect in either type of meet!!
I know everyone who has commented on here is a sensible (well i use the word lightly you understand) person and are all regulars on the forums and site, but without being rude or argumentative or trying to offend and provoke anyone, FFS is this topic really worth so much discussion?
Is swinging and dogging not about personal preference and choice and freedom to choose what you want to do without the threat and fear of criticism or predjudice? We haven't been on the site as long as a lot of ppl but have learnt that much in our time here and i just feel that this whole debate recently about "dogging preferences etc" a bit laborious now. :shock:
I think its better to put it to bed with the thought that everybody will seek there own way in this life and find something that suits and appeals to them and mbe not to the person next to them. We like dogging with cpls wether its classed as "dogging" "outdoor meet" or whatever, and to those that like the more "dictionary defined" (DD in there horse drawn cart wink

)dogging good luck, safe and happiness to them and all that mean no harm and enjoy the freedom that they seek through this site!! cool

31 Jul 2006

steanrachy...people use the net for one or more of several reasons.."where are the best sites"? "where are all the couples"? anyone willing to suck my cock"?"is dogging dead"? and debate..the latter features rather less frequently, so when it happens, we are there..you wouldn't take that from us would you? its all we've got lol

as traditional horse and trap exhibitionists, we rather relish the chance to air our views..theres nothing new in dogging to discuss, and some topics will come around regularly, but with a whole new audience.
it doesn't matter what people do in carparks, with whom, or when...if everyone was content, it wouldn't be an issue..personally i don't give a damn what people do, or define dogging as...the situation however, in our experience, is this...increasingly, the swingers are slating dogging due to the number of seedy looking guys hanging in carparks..you only have to read the posts..or visit the carparks..increasingly we are acosted by couples, who, upon realising we ain't gonna swing with them, become rather irritated..not a problem..to us..what we are saying is this...look for cute, look for hung, look for swing..by all means...just don't moan about it if it ain't happening......carparks are eminently suitable for certain sexual or erotic scenarios..if whatever you are doing is working for you..fine..if not, why whine about it, look at the alternatives..carparks might, or might not feature highly in them wink

we don't dogg traditional because it fits a dictionary definition, its just happens to be our game of choice, many couples are out in carparks doing it the way we do without ever realising its "dogging", or even being interested in associating themselves in what we see as the scene....carparks are our only outlet for being caught having a bunk up in our haywagon :wink: swinging is BEST done in clubs,at home or arranged in a quiet country lane..not because we'd rather they keep away from "our" carparks, its just rather less problematic..for THEM..of course, it can be done, and is done in carparks..but there are complications, ie, doggers :lol: not every couple has an issue with them, and in that case, there is no problem...increasingly though, couples not wanting to give out home adresses are looking to carparks for their swinging encounters..and they are more than welcome..(it was us that gave eyorkscple the directions to our venue) :wink: BUT if swingers think dogging is about couples swapping..they are gonna be mighty dissapointed :lol: hence the thread, which is more about clarification than predujice :wink:
if you look at it, every "is dogging dead"? post is just another aspect of the missunderstanding of what dogging actually means, or a lack of acceptance that carparks aren't neccessarily the best places in which to meet specific ain't ones for definitions, or pidgeon holing aspects of sexual expression..but when people cite "dogging" as being dead, often "is outdoor swinging dead"? or "is arranged outdoor sex meets dead"? would be more appropiate titles :wink:
for the record..we've been doing it the traditional way for three years..its still as much fun, we rarely have a problem and seldom seek to vent our few frustrations on the board..our bigger venues don't provide the best stage for our offering, so we go elsewhere..lots of people are having fun at the bigger carparks, and we applaud that...we quite like things the way they are :wink: we'll not be changing anytime soon..thank ya :lol: what we are doing is absolutely right..for us :wink:
when we, or others describe traditional dogging as "the old way", its a bit of a misdemenour, and implies that traditional dogging has been somewhat superceeded..thats untrue..traditional doggers, and their couple counterparts rarely use the internet..when they do, its for debate..as with us, and jomu..most of the guys, and couples using the internet do so because they want something from it..that WANT usually has little to do with traditional dogging..ie "where" "what time" "seeking couple" etc etc..couples use the internet to look for other couples..guys use it to look for couples too..beneath this veneer of cyber arranging..the traditional doggers are just doing it...and most of them aren't coming here to talk about it..as members are being charged to use the site, the debate will receed further, and the want will become even more endemic than now...in that, our days here are numbered. dogging takes on a whole new meaning through the familiarity of couples advertising for like, and fellas desiring to know what time the carpark shag fest kicks off..not many forum users recognise the fact that non sexual involvement is still a factor, and care little for debate..as we frequently see on threads such as this, where, as per the norm, the contributions are made almost entirely by the established debators :lol: with very little input from the newer members .thankfully the same can't be said for traditional dogging, which never did, or never will have any reliance on internet technology :wink:
to further clarify..we are non involving exhibitionists...our best dogging buddies ie "the master" and "singledogger" are voyuers, and players :shock: the thing is..they are content..amongst our best couple buddies are "doggingtwo" who, like us are exhibitionists..but..favour couples..and "t and c" who are extreme gangbangers..well, she is anyway :lol: you'll not get predujice from us :wink: :lol:

31 Jul 2006

I'm reminded of an event that happened last summer.
After a boring 2 hours quietly perspiring in my car seat, I was rudely brought back to full consciousness by two cars hacking into the carpark.
Both parked at the bottom of the hill, and the occupants disembarked.....I decided that I needed some fresh air, so wandered in their general direction . Upon arriving I noticed that all four occupants were busy disrobing with a certain degree of haste . When one of them finally noticed me standing watching, he said "do you mind us doing this"............................I thought about it for a few seconds, then asked "do you mind me watching"....................."no" he said.
So, they all got into the mondeo estate and started doing things to each other
So, things went from bad to outright disgusting....cocks in mouths, cocks in other orifices, then the two girls started on each other.........
Yes, one of the better nights...................the couples usually wake me up now, probably get fed up waiting, or just take pity on me....who cares ?
Anyway, that was the one and only time that two couples shagging each other let me watch....the rest (and there have been a few this year) usually tell you to piss off. Which I ignore....the carpark is public after all.
If you want privacy, try a wood. One without carparks in it. And not in Norfolk....every pine tree has at least one idiot at the top trying to see of there's anything to watch.

31 Jul 2006

Quote by jomu
Anyway, that was the one and only time that two couples shagging each other let me watch....the rest (and there have been a few this year) usually tell you to piss off. Which I ignore....the carpark is public after all .

the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth...and if the swingers don't like it, report them for outraging public decency lol

:lol: seriously though..accept that anyone shagging in a public place is fair game to the dogger, and you'll be ok...damn, i wish i could do it like jomu wink

in yer home, or at a club..you'll have rights or rules to protect your privacy or ensure it.....not so in the carpark..take it or leave it :lol:

1 Aug 2006

Emm, dont really know what to say about this now! Steandrachy, you obviously seem quite offended that Ive asked this and that Ive asked people to discuss. It was never meant to be an insult to anyone, and I did say in my posts, Im not having a dig, we all like different things and that is how it should be! We also meet with a couple and we also do meet with a couple of single guys we know, it doesnt mean that what we do is right way to do it, but it also doesnt mean that what you do is the right way. I was not stating that either of us were right, just that dogging had changed, and people no longer seemed to do 'dogging'.
What I was trying to establish is why outdoor swinging is now known as dogging, and has dogging gone! The fact that you have both offered such a lenghty reply, in mind anyway, does mean that this topic is worth discussing and thanks for your input wink

1 Aug 2006

Hi NWC as a relativly new person to dogging, i would like to give you my first opinion to what i thoughtdogging was and then how i percive it know
When i first heard about it i wasn't even a member here, i heard rummours etc about a local car park near me, and it was a case of you drove in to the car park and waited if there was any couples there they would signal you with ether a flash of there headlight or interior light which ment you could approch and then depending on the couple in vovled ether watch or join in with them taking the lead and you (as in me) following there instruction ( and i have to say my very first experiance was spot on)
But that has all changed recently what with the local paper boy racers and travallers all the couples have disappeared or are only looking for other couples the other thing is that some of the cpules i have met are not very polite on such couple invited me over after they had finish the woman said to me "ok shows ove fcuk off" so it not just the single males that can come across as arrogant. i feel with the changes due to media and other social events both couples and singles are geeting defensive before they start
i don't know if this makes any sence all i know is that after a good start i'm starting to feel that its not worth the hassle any more and give up on dogging

1 Aug 2006

I started reading this thread last night but never finished it so for those that have posted on the bottom of the first page, I haven't read it redface

Dogging, or how I see is when Ian and I park up, start having some fun of our own. Eventually I am hoping some random man/men, come out of the trees or cars and slowly come over towards us. Giving me the oportunity to feel comfortable with their approach rather than them jumping on me.
We could continue to play and maybe the guys would begin to play with themselves until such time they I felt like I wanted to reach over to play with them.
I have no idea if I am right or wrong, just telling you what I think should happen in a very simply way dunno

1 Aug 2006

Quote by Dawn_Mids
I started reading this thread last night but never finished it so for those that have posted on the bottom of the first page, I haven't read it
Dogging, or how I see is when Ian and I park up, start having some fun of our own. Eventually I am hoping some random man/men, come out of the trees or cars and slowly come over towards us. Giving me the oportunity to feel comfortable with their approach rather than them jumping on me.
We could continue to play and maybe the guys would begin to play with themselves until such time they I felt like I wanted to reach over to play with them.
I have no idea if I am right or wrong, just telling you what I think should happen in a very simply way

Think thats about it dawn :lol: well that would do it for us,

1 Aug 2006

hey this thread has got the makings of a good one ,but what dissapoints me is the lack of newish members not coming in and giving some input so to all new comers why donnt you join in and get known :shock:

1 Aug 2006

Quote by northeastcoupleuk
hey this thread has got the makings of a good one ,but what dissapoints me is the lack of newish members not coming in and giving some input so to all new comers why donnt you join in and get known :shock:

Mini Hijack - I just sooo luv that avatar - Hijack off wink

1 Aug 2006

Quote by eyorkscpl
Sorry guys but we have to disagree, we arent knocking coupkes that are out looking for single guys or vice versa, everybody is free to choose, butwho makes the rules that say couples shouldnt meet couples in the same arent against meeting a polite, non pushy single guy to watch us butover the past 2 weekends they have been few and far between. O.K there can be some ignorant couples too. Surely everyone pleases themselves what they are after.

Absolutely but the attitude towards single guys/solo doggers is becoming a matter of annoyance to many - more and more often the presence of doggers (good or bad) instead of couples is a matter of frustration, annoyance and sometimes anger. The famed tolerance and open mindedness of swingers isn't much in evidence when they make their way to the car park!
It seems that people are becoming even less tolerant and the art of a polite no thanks is disappearing!

2 Aug 2006

trawling through some other websites recently, i saw on a discussion forum pertaining to dogging, a rather intrequing title..on reading the post, it was soon made clear that it was a rant from a swinger who, with his female partner had decided to play the quaint game of dogging..having consequently been dogged by men, without another couple in the venue, they sought to vent their frustrations by clarifying the rules of the game..rule number one being to "bring a partner" :shock: to the swingers, it was clear why dogging was a game in decline, men were actual assuming they could have sex with the women having turned up empty handed! what a state of affairs lol

2 Aug 2006

Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
hey this thread has got the makings of a good one ,but what dissapoints me is the lack of newish members not coming in and giving some input so to all new comers why donnt you join in and get known :shock:

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