Following recent, and past, posts about single males.
Maybe some of you would like to clarify, again, for the benefit of new recruits, precisely WHAT single guys should do.
Let me say what I mean:
In one post guys who walk past are too brash.
In another, guys who sit in their cars are lurkers.
In yet another, guys who are anywhere in the car park are wasters.
Too forward, too backwards, too brash.
?
I've had couples pull up when I'm with another couple, and make such a nuisance of themselves that everything stopped until they went. It was made plain at that time that the new arrivals wanted the other couple, but the ones already there were not "into" couples, just playing with each other and showing.
If you drive into a location with guys in, they're going to develop an interest.
If you only want another couple and DON'T want to be watched, then you're going to be very disappointed.
They make swingers clubs for that. So I'm told.
If you only want to be WATCHED and not have anyone take part, then SAY so. The ones who only want to watch will soon get rid of the planks who think FEMALE = FUCK.
Similarly, if you want a gang-bang then SAY so. Telepathy is SO out of style now.
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Sex God
I don't think there is one universal answer to what guys should do. Each couple will want difference things.
However, for us, we prefer to be given a few minutes to settle down first - not have the door yanked open the minute we park :shock:
We hardly ever give signals such as interior lights etc as there is seldon the need to do so.
Guys in our local spots usually wander around the park, maybe having a smoke, and casually look into the cars as they pass from several feet away.
For me, this is the preferred method of selecting guys to join us etc. They can see there is a couple in the car, and I can see (if the moon is shining lol) if they look ok for me to invite over.
If we want them to come over, we open the window slightly as an invitation to watch. They usually come over within a minute or so and begin watching. Later of course the door would be opened and the fun would begin :twisted:
If a guy came right up to the window straight away, I would not open it. I would think him brash and ill mannered and no matter what he looked like - even Adonis himself - he would not get an invite.
For us dogging should be done gently and discretely until they get a clear invite.
So to re-cap:
Don't just sit in your car
Get out and have a discrete walk, not too close to the cars.
Wait for signals, and if none is forthcoming, don't hang around for ages and then get your dick out to let us know that you'd like to join us
If you haven't already had an invite by this time, getting your meat out is unlikely to persuade me to change my mind
Most couples in dark car parks at night are probably out looking for doggers, but if they don't select you, try again another night. It's not the end of the world.
Tracy-Jayne
However, for us, we prefer to be given a few minutes to settle down first - not have the door yanked open the minute we park :shock:
We hardly ever give signals such as interior lights etc as there is seldon the need to do so.
Guys in our local spots usually wander around the park, maybe having a smoke, and casually look into the cars as they pass from several feet away.
For me, this is the preferred method of selecting guys to join us etc. They can see there is a couple in the car, and I can see (if the moon is shining lol) if they look ok for me to invite over.
If we want them to come over, we open the window slightly as an invitation to watch. They usually come over within a minute or so and begin watching. Later of course the door would be opened and the fun would begin :twisted:
If a guy came right up to the window straight away, I would not open it. I would think him brash and ill mannered and no matter what he looked like - even Adonis himself - he would not get an invite.
For us dogging should be done gently and discretely until they get a clear invite.
So to re-cap:
Don't just sit in your car
Get out and have a discrete walk, not too close to the cars.
Wait for signals, and if none is forthcoming, don't hang around for ages and then get your dick out to let us know that you'd like to join us
If you haven't already had an invite by this time, getting your meat out is unlikely to persuade me to change my mind
Most couples in dark car parks at night are probably out looking for doggers, but if they don't select you, try again another night. It's not the end of the world.
Tracy-Jayne
Would be nice to see singles put their interior lights on briefly so we can get a look at them,even if they just make it seem they are busy sorting something in the car...Those who aproach the side of the car where the male is sitting,say a pleasant "hi" certainly make me feel happier 
..Spose the problem is,everyone is different,whether they be a couple or single....It can't be all bad out there though,or people just wouldnt bother...
T xx
..Spose the problem is,everyone is different,whether they be a couple or single....It can't be all bad out there though,or people just wouldnt bother...T xx
Sex God
Fully agree with what TJ and D&T have said, there is not a universal answer to what would please everyone! We are all different, all want different things and that is what makes us all so special! 
Personally, I like it if a single bloke parks close enough to show he is interested, but not so close as it makes it difficult to get out of the car should I want to! Ideally, the single bloke would then wait for a signal of some kind, whether that be flashing of interior light, opening of windows, or some other type of signal for them to come and watch.
One of the most uncomfortable things which happened to us was when about seven cars seemed to appear from no-where and they all tried to park as close as possible to our car, with one of them parking accross the front of us so we could not drive away. A single bloke then got out of his car and came over and leans on our car expecting us to put on a show or invite him to join in! Scary stuff, but fortunately, these experiences are not the norm and the majority of people who go out are well mannered and wait to be asked before they come and try to open your car door!!!!
We are still 'novices' at this but have really enjoyed the majority of our outings. We are still at the 'showing' stage with just one go at opening the door for a quick feel. Hopefully as confidence grows (for me anyway) I will be opening the door and getting out of the car! :rascal: Once we have more experience we might be able to say exactly what we do want and what we dont want, but until then, it will just be a matter of experimenting with some (hopefully) very nice blokes!
Personally, I like it if a single bloke parks close enough to show he is interested, but not so close as it makes it difficult to get out of the car should I want to! Ideally, the single bloke would then wait for a signal of some kind, whether that be flashing of interior light, opening of windows, or some other type of signal for them to come and watch.
One of the most uncomfortable things which happened to us was when about seven cars seemed to appear from no-where and they all tried to park as close as possible to our car, with one of them parking accross the front of us so we could not drive away. A single bloke then got out of his car and came over and leans on our car expecting us to put on a show or invite him to join in! Scary stuff, but fortunately, these experiences are not the norm and the majority of people who go out are well mannered and wait to be asked before they come and try to open your car door!!!!
We are still 'novices' at this but have really enjoyed the majority of our outings. We are still at the 'showing' stage with just one go at opening the door for a quick feel. Hopefully as confidence grows (for me anyway) I will be opening the door and getting out of the car! :rascal: Once we have more experience we might be able to say exactly what we do want and what we dont want, but until then, it will just be a matter of experimenting with some (hopefully) very nice blokes!
Orgasminator
This really is a difficult one as everyone is different. I don't think you could ever come up with a standard set of the ABCs of Dogging. The only thing that really annoys me is when the guys stand around chatting and smoking while the action is taking place. I have been known to throw a strop and get back into the car. I just think it is really rude.
I think Jomu has hit on a really valid point here. Single males remain an integral part of the dogging scene and there is nothing worse than plucking up the courage to get out of your car when a couple arrive at a dogging site only to be re-buffed with an obscenity when you make an approach.
I have yet to actually SEE any real action at my local Cheshire spot its that bad (or maybe I'm unlucky) but on the rare occasions that a couple have turned up and I have got out of the car, shitting my pants, I have followed some of the basics in the posts here - by getting out and standing a fair distance from the car - and waiting for............a 'sign'.
In one case the window came down, and i approached the car, waited, and eventually said 'hi'. They didn't reply, so I asked if they wanted me to stay and watch and I was told to 'fuck off'.
Maybe they didn't like the look of me when I got closer (must've been a bad hair day) I don't know - but I just thought it was plain rude.
Therefore, any really nice North west couples who are close to Warrington, drop me a line and restore my faith in dogging!
I have yet to actually SEE any real action at my local Cheshire spot its that bad (or maybe I'm unlucky) but on the rare occasions that a couple have turned up and I have got out of the car, shitting my pants, I have followed some of the basics in the posts here - by getting out and standing a fair distance from the car - and waiting for............a 'sign'.
In one case the window came down, and i approached the car, waited, and eventually said 'hi'. They didn't reply, so I asked if they wanted me to stay and watch and I was told to 'fuck off'.
Maybe they didn't like the look of me when I got closer (must've been a bad hair day) I don't know - but I just thought it was plain rude.
Therefore, any really nice North west couples who are close to Warrington, drop me a line and restore my faith in dogging!
Sex God
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This really is a difficult one as everyone is different. I don't think you could ever come up with a standard set of the ABCs of Dogging. The only thing that really annoys me is when the guys stand around chatting and smoking while the action is taking place. I have been known to throw a strop and get back into the car. I just think it is really rude.
:shock: :shock: Standing around chatting amidst the action??! Never had that happen!
Maybe they were gay guys and looking for man on man action?
Tracy-Jayne
Sex God
jomu
You know how it is mate , and youre just playin Devil Advocate with this post im sure. Truth is there are lots of people involved in dogging at the moment that dont really want to be dogging at all ..............theres as many couples without a bloody clue as there is singles ( well maybe thats over egging it but in percentage terms I mean) .
Laying set rules will never work , never has .....never will ..........not in any form of swinging and certainly not in dogging . In the fullness of time the volume of assholes will reduce (quite soon now the weather is cooling down) and we will still have a few no marks and whingers about , but most of them will crawl back under their stone .
Chill and relax mate , unless the Doctor has only given you six months to dog , it'll all get back to how it was and you'll be having fun again soon , just looking back and smiling at " The Summer of Stan "
You know how it is mate , and youre just playin Devil Advocate with this post im sure. Truth is there are lots of people involved in dogging at the moment that dont really want to be dogging at all ..............theres as many couples without a bloody clue as there is singles ( well maybe thats over egging it but in percentage terms I mean) .
Laying set rules will never work , never has .....never will ..........not in any form of swinging and certainly not in dogging . In the fullness of time the volume of assholes will reduce (quite soon now the weather is cooling down) and we will still have a few no marks and whingers about , but most of them will crawl back under their stone .
Chill and relax mate , unless the Doctor has only given you six months to dog , it'll all get back to how it was and you'll be having fun again soon , just looking back and smiling at " The Summer of Stan "
your posting on the singles threads gonna be a hard act to follow silk n g!heres our ,yep,the primary cause of all the bullshit and misunderstanding are all guilty,the dogger with a captive audience,as he relates tales of venues and conquests has perceived power.a couple arrive on site,a dogger knows them,the couple wave as they drive by,the guys question him,"what do they do"? he has a contact,and information which may benefit them,power of association!couples,being the more important element have power,but,for this to be effective,the percieved power of the doggers has to be this with territorial rights and comfort zones around the car or woman and it becomes a bloody minefield!a successful dogger will be subordinate,dress casually,drive a mid range car in a non threatning manner,rspect a couples personal space when parking or walking engaged in conversation,laugh at all the husbands jokes,even the bad ones!and never attempt to initiate the action!obviously the balance of power may be allowed to shift,ie a powerful businessman or figure of aurthority may wish to enact a submissive ,the power of large cocks,no,lets not go there!!!
Devils advocate ?
Or advocat ?
Hmm.
Well, the reason behind this is even simpler.....it gets people to think a bit.
To see the other side of the coin, so to speak.
Doggers like to see the couples, who like to see the dogger.
Then again, as you have read, there are some who just want to leave others thinking !
And maybe, just maybe, I can leave the brake-light flashers alone secure in the knowledge that it will be a gay guy....so I won't walk past and see yet another stiff dick and silly smile ???????
Or advocat ?
Hmm.
Well, the reason behind this is even simpler.....it gets people to think a bit.
To see the other side of the coin, so to speak.
Doggers like to see the couples, who like to see the dogger.
Then again, as you have read, there are some who just want to leave others thinking !
And maybe, just maybe, I can leave the brake-light flashers alone secure in the knowledge that it will be a gay guy....so I won't walk past and see yet another stiff dick and silly smile ???????
Sex God
I think it's something to do with Lancashire..... I've seen it too Redbird... those that stand around chatting, I've even asked them what they're talking about and that doesn't work
Personally, I don't like guys who come straight up to the car with their dick hanging out, but I don't like the ones who never approach either. I guess it depends on the situation, and all it really takes is a bit of common sense on the part of the guys and the couples really...... OK, OK, common sense seems to be lacking in a lot of doggers, but we can always hope!
I wouldn't want to think I had to abide by certain rules about flashing lighte etc, again, I think that depends on the situation. Not sure really . I prefer woods rather than car parks anyway, so lights and things are irrelevant. Usually if some geezer comes along I will ask what he's after, if he is straight I will send him on his way, no hard feelings etc.... never had a problem with that..... I think as long as everyone knows where they stand it works out better..... still doesn't stop the followers or the dickhead drivebys, but you can but try :roll:
Personally, I don't like guys who come straight up to the car with their dick hanging out, but I don't like the ones who never approach either. I guess it depends on the situation, and all it really takes is a bit of common sense on the part of the guys and the couples really...... OK, OK, common sense seems to be lacking in a lot of doggers, but we can always hope!
I wouldn't want to think I had to abide by certain rules about flashing lighte etc, again, I think that depends on the situation. Not sure really
. I prefer woods rather than car parks anyway, so lights and things are irrelevant. Usually if some geezer comes along I will ask what he's after, if he is straight I will send him on his way, no hard feelings etc.... never had a problem with that..... I think as long as everyone knows where they stand it works out better..... still doesn't stop the followers or the dickhead drivebys, but you can but try :roll: we look 4 cpls and single guys, and tend 2 stick 2 the interia light on/off routine 2 attract attention..which usually works 4 us..but also agreeing with the fact a lot of guys tend 2 turn up with 1/2 there mates which is a no no 4 us 2...one maybe two is what we prefere but everyone 2 there own..also sometimes and weve seen it with other cpls it dosnt matter how many signals u give out some guys r frightened 2 death 2 get out there cars and be seen..whats the point? proberly why they bring there mates along does it make them braver? we also go 4 involvment not ur stand watch and wank guys with cpls its different ..but be it cpls or singles uv got 2 make urself seen 1 way or another as we will not open our doors 2 dark shadowy figures that we havnt a clue about there appearance..and think most cpls are similar..
yeah,some of the guys that sit in the car all night are ok,they soon shift when things kick off!...its the freakos that bug us,and aint they always the ones to follow you home,its happened three times now!!..playing cat and mouse with those wankers at isnt an ideal way to round the night our experience,its usually executive class motors,you know,suit hanging over the rear passenger window?..right,lets go into the psychology shall we....naaa,only kidding!!!..the best way to shift these morons is to pose your missus near their car,take a few snaps,near enough to make him think he's in shot,he'll go!!
Noy as experienced as we'd like to be.
If we park up we feel uncomfortable if someone parks too close. A reasonable distance is good, then SHOW YOURSELVES. Get out and go for a pee, or re-organise your boot. If we are still playing then try to catch our eye with a smile. A return smile and we would anticipate you coming in for a closer view.
If I get out of the car showing lots of leg or cleavage and we wander off, a small group could follow. It is intimidating if more than say 3 people follow us.
Of course that is us - gentle and touchy feely. Others will probably be happy for a dozen followers.
I don't know how signals can be made for mass watchers against a smaller intimate group though.
Hope this helps.
If we park up we feel uncomfortable if someone parks too close. A reasonable distance is good, then SHOW YOURSELVES. Get out and go for a pee, or re-organise your boot. If we are still playing then try to catch our eye with a smile. A return smile and we would anticipate you coming in for a closer view.
If I get out of the car showing lots of leg or cleavage and we wander off, a small group could follow. It is intimidating if more than say 3 people follow us.
Of course that is us - gentle and touchy feely. Others will probably be happy for a dozen followers.
I don't know how signals can be made for mass watchers against a smaller intimate group though.
Hope this helps.
OMG i can feel in car stickers being printed at this very time or signs we can hang by the windscreen - watch only dont touch/ touches welcome/get yer kit off and get in etc etc. like everything else it varies from couple to couple - i have been brave enough (or stupid) to go to some places on my own, feeling very horny i have sat in the car watching two guys playing with oneanother - they came over to me and said that i was making them feel self concious and they were worried i was from a newspaper :jagsatwork: of course what could i say apart from "sorry" followed by me driving off highly frustrated and puling into a roadside layby to continue ridding my self of my pent up sexual frustration - how lucky was i that the truck driver i was parked infront of, came down out of his cab and stood by my passenger window 
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or signs we can hang by the windscreen - watch only dont touch/ touches welcome/get yer kit off and get in etc etc. like everything else it varies from couple to couple - i have been brave enough (or stupid) to go to some places on my own, feeling very horny i have sat in the car watching two guys playing with oneanother - they came over to me and said that i was making them feel self concious and they were worried i was from a newspaper :jagsatwork: of course what could i say apart from "sorry" followed by me driving off highly frustrated and puling into a roadside layby to continue ridding my self of my pent up sexual frustration - how lucky was i that the truck driver i was parked infront of, came down out of his cab and stood by my passenger window :D :D Hi!
I hope this is the right thread to ask this in (newbies eh? ). I've been reading the forum for a while and have seen a lot of comments about people only wanting couples or singles guys to watch/participate etc.....but are single women welcome or is this not most peoples preference? possibly a silly question and probably not the only one I'll ask!
Thanks
Serendipity
I hope this is the right thread to ask this in (newbies eh?
). I've been reading the forum for a while and have seen a lot of comments about people only wanting couples or singles guys to watch/participate etc.....but are single women welcome or is this not most peoples preference? possibly a silly question and probably not the only one I'll ask! Thanks
Serendipity
This has been an interesting thread, and many thanks to those who've contributed with tips for single blokes. As one such, who's only tried dogging once at the locs north of Nottingham without any success, I've found this really useful as a rough guide to dogging etiquette. If there's a next time (which there might not be if action doesn't happen till past midnight, as I do like my beer :*)) then I'll make a point of putting my interior light on and wandering around. I did wander about when I tried it, not least because it was a lovely night to go walking in the woods, but no-one spoke to me other than an old guy who'd come all the way up from Wolverhampton for action.
Mr Licks
Mr Licks
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Hi!
I hope this is the right thread to ask this in (newbies eh?
Thanks
Serendipity
Going by what I've read on these fora the last six months or so since I came across SH, I would say that single women in the swinging and/or dogging scenes are as rare as gold dust and twice as desirable. I very, very much doubt that you'll have to wait long for any action at a dogging venue if you're str8 or bi, what with all the men hanging around like dogs with two dicks...
Good luck!
Mr LIcks
another aspect of dogging that we find distasteful,is the compulsion of a minority of guys to verbalise their contempt for couples,and other doggers for that matter!....as one half of a dogging pair,i am,on occassion,allowed out on my is during these rare excursions that i have overheard some pretty disrespectful remarks...this is one example,by a dogger,discussing a recent encounter with a couple."well if that prick of a husband was stupid enough to let me fuck it,i wasn't going to say no,i'll jump on anything thats cunt enough to let me",another of many would be,"i've boned it,had to empty my sack into something didn't i"?...yeah,i know,nobody is shocked,most couples are realists anyway,and as such,realise that this talk is just bigshot point is though,i've seen some nasty incidents arise out of such remarks,you never know if that shadowy figure hanging onto every grizzly detail,is the husband or friend of said slapper!!!..not much to be learned from that outburst really is there? ah well,bollocks,i'll post it anyway,got it out of my system now.
Hi All 
Thank for the encouragement, I finally found the courage to go out looking at a couple of spots! Three evenings were spent with just cigarettes, CDs and what looked like innocent drivers for company who had no idea what my naughty mind was up to! I decided to go out again tonight and pulled up nearish to another car, I switched my light on on the pretext of getting my bag (just in case) and looked over, to be met with a smile from a couple when they put their light on too, although they did look a little surprised to see me on my own!
I really wasn't sure if it was just a smile or something else, so I acknowledged it, looked at them a little longer than you normally would then turned the light back off and waited (of course, all the advice that I hoped I'd remember rushed out of my head at 100mph!). Lucky me though, the couple in the started getting it on!
I'd love to say I stood at their car and had a birds eye view but I didn't, I wasn't sure if that was what they wanted and didn't want to push my luck but could see (and hear) enough from where I was and they seemed comfortable with that too. It was fantastic to watch them and SO erotic, especially because it all happened without an uncomfortable conversation or any major embarrassment! I have no idea if they were seasoned doggers or if I just got lucky with newbies/a very randy couple but I put my light back on and mouthed thank you then drove home with a HUGE smile on my face!
I have no idea who they were but I do hope I bump into them again, I guess you might be members here....if you are, thank you so much again!
Serendipity
Thank for the encouragement, I finally found the courage to go out looking at a couple of spots! Three evenings were spent with just cigarettes, CDs and what looked like innocent drivers for company who had no idea what my naughty mind was up to! I decided to go out again tonight and pulled up nearish to another car, I switched my light on on the pretext of getting my bag (just in case) and looked over, to be met with a smile from a couple when they put their light on too, although they did look a little surprised to see me on my own!
I really wasn't sure if it was just a smile or something else, so I acknowledged it, looked at them a little longer than you normally would then turned the light back off and waited (of course, all the advice that I hoped I'd remember rushed out of my head at 100mph!). Lucky me though, the couple in the started getting it on!
I'd love to say I stood at their car and had a birds eye view but I didn't, I wasn't sure if that was what they wanted and didn't want to push my luck but could see (and hear) enough from where I was and they seemed comfortable with that too. It was fantastic to watch them and SO erotic, especially because it all happened without an uncomfortable conversation or any major embarrassment! I have no idea if they were seasoned doggers or if I just got lucky with newbies/a very randy couple but I put my light back on and mouthed thank you then drove home with a HUGE smile on my face!
I have no idea who they were but I do hope I bump into them again, I guess you might be members here....if you are, thank you so much again!
Serendipity
I don't know in any certainty that having a chat beforehand would be uncomfortable, it's just hard to gauge what people are in a car park for when you're not particularly experienced. Wandering over to a car and asking in the most round about way "Are you planning to have sex soon and can I watch please?" seems inappropriate, even if you'd happened upon the world champions of dogging! From what I've been reading here lately, it could be quite dangerous too.
However, I'm still smiling and the events of last night will definitely fuel a few day dreams for a while til I can get out there again!
Thanks again, the forum advice and people who replied to me have been a big help!
Serendipity
From what I've been reading here lately, it could be quite dangerous too. However, I'm still smiling and the events of last night will definitely fuel a few day dreams for a while til I can get out there again!
Thanks again, the forum advice and people who replied to me have been a big help!
Serendipity
yeah,we do sometimes find chat a little uncomfortable,as there has to be a point where chat is displaced by action,and i'm not sure we get that bit right all the time!!..largely depends on the person,and the manner of conversation,sex is still a tricky topic for most people and so many prefer to talk about cars instead!!...seasoned pros will nip that in the bud,"right,who's up for some fun"?,but my missus cannot perform on cue,prefering the ambience of soft music as a mood enhancer!..its each to their own i you would come and dog us!
Me too! If I ever have a reason to be in East Anglia I'll PM you, it would be nice to meet more experienced people.....my biggest concern for the future is convincing people that a solo female dogger may just want to watch! :angel: Although after last night, my next biggest concern is making sure I have a scarf on...brrrrrr
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Although after last night, my next biggest concern is making sure I have a scarf on...brrrrrr
Quite. As winter draws on I dare say hardy doggers will have to wear thermals, which could lead to some, er, practical difficulties unless said garments have flaps. Still, maybe the cold will *increase* the likelihood of action, what with that being the only way to stay warm... All this al fresco shagging is all very well for us blokes as we don't expose much surface area to the cold, but I do feel for the grrlz.
I'm glad you had a good experience the other night, and I'm impressed that you kept going after 3 nights of fags and boredom - that's dedication, all right ;-). Do keep us up to date with news of your exploits.
Shame I no longer live around Beds/Herts, but if I ever get down there again I'll give you a shout, if you'd like.
Mr Licks
Well the one thing I did learn from reading lots of threads is to be persistent! I think I got very lucky as I was imagining a LOT more waiting! It was worth it, I was so excited I had to share it with all of you! 
Funny that you used to live down this way, I used to live reasonably close to Nottingham! Definitely give me a shout if you're heading this way Mr Licks, I'm not too knowledgeable about locations around here but I hope to improve that!
Serendipity
I think I got very lucky as I was imagining a LOT more waiting! It was worth it, I was so excited I had to share it with all of you! Funny that you used to live down this way, I used to live reasonably close to Nottingham! Definitely give me a shout if you're heading this way Mr Licks, I'm not too knowledgeable about locations around here but I hope to improve that!
Serendipity
