I have it on very good authority that 5 male doggers and 1 couple were arrested last night a D____y N__k near Ashton u Lyne last night,police had 2 surveilance teams,one in the bushes another in the lodge,2 males were charged with commiting sex acts in a public place as was the couple.I was not there last night but was on Monday when 1 plain white police corsa(came in on 2 occasions),2 dog vans,3 transit vans and a traffic patrol came in the car park in 2 hours,I was the most protected man in England on Monday night,a really worthwhile use of police resourses don't you think,I would love to know the crime statistics for that part of tameside for monday night when most of them were protecting me,without me even asking them to,so kind of them I thought,it was free as well.
dont know the location (poss will be edited by a mod anyway) and is not near to us but i take it that the area is not very far from a public road or isnt well sheltered etc?
we have been at an outdoor meet in the past with a cpl when old plod came creeping up and caught the ladies mid flow asked what we were doing told them the truth and said "its not as if we are within public gaze is it?" to which he "did one" albeit it begrudgingly!
I think some locations (particularly those that are well used/known and are within easy aces are most likely to be pinged by the law!!
live a few miles away but never been there at nite as it is open to the main rd ,has any one got better sites round this area
ps your profile pictures dickanddollnw xx vey sexy haha
Police have been patroling this site for years now,i`ve had one or three great nights there myself but not been for a good while due to plod.
Could be time to move on if lead story is true.....shame
Well known stockport site ruined and now DN...whats left ????
It is a decent distance away from the main residential area,it is very secluded at night,most of the car park which is mostly pitch black cannot be seen from the main road and which is not well used at night anyway,there are a few houses up a hill at the end of the car park but no one seems to venture out during darkness and there are no children, it is rural everywhere else,another spot at p__k b__ge is also being targeted as well until at least saturday ,so i'm told,a fellow dogger is in the know,enough said,BE WARNED
Stuff like this relly winds me up!. I am a great supporter of the police, but by acting in this manner all they do is alinate the public.
There seems to be a concerted effort on the wirral to rid our local beauty spots of this menace, far to many guys in reflective jackets sitting in cars, bloody big yellow vans and pandas with one front light out kerb crawling about.
with any luck once the initiative is budgeted for they will all F**K OFF!
I was asked why I had been moving up and down the car park in a suspicious manner, when I explained that the kids with the loud stereos kept pulling up next to me, I was told at least they were away from the general public!!
I for one accept this fact and the common space is for us all to share, as of yet I am yet to get involved in any dogging action that was above a couple of decibels at most!
"he who has endurance, sells insurance" hang in there, the commited will be rewarded!
so if you dont like it, just ask to see his warrant card, ask his station and duty sergeant
admittedly, that winds police up even more, but if you dont intend going back, its not so big an issue....
It is not that simple. I tried it. I got a tape with about 5 minutes of video which had everything except me blanked.
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This dogging spot has always been a big place for drugs and provides access to a couple of houses. Not too suprised they'd want to clear it out really. Usually has plenty of cars full of teenagers too.
Plenty of other places that are out of the way around there.
it could be they were after drug users and the doggers were unlucky,I was not accused of anything but acted surprised when dogging was mentioned,I actually asked what was dogging and had the bob explain it to which I replied"jesus,really,that goes on does it".I might take up acting,haha
years ago ( and i mean years) i / we used to go to all kinds of raves and illegal discos ets.
no one knew where they were going to happen until about 3 hours before the disco/show/fun started.
it was great - the plod didnt really have a chance.
i am not saying it will work with our type of fun but something along the lines of this concept just may make it a little less easy for the plod.
it may mean there are a lot of participants in one location that particular time - but that cant be bad either - would be like a rgular dogging supermarket!!!!
have fun all
Hi DD,it may be a few weeks till any court appearance or if they got a caution i'll update this thread once i know whats happened,I haven't been back for obvious reasons but i'll speak to my informer,john
Incidentally Mr D there is nothing funny about mrs D's fanny :-)
i luv dogging and go in my local area a fair bit
till recently anyway !
the police r about a lots more now and although iv not been caught" yet i hav, wen with a fella, been asked to move on as the carpark is being used by nasty drug takers and doggers (the polices words not mine) !
that same carpark does hav ppl thre using drugs but they r simply sitting in their car enjoying a smoke and r no problem to anyone but the boy racers r another thing !!
they constantly cause problems there !
we hav been told that if caught we will b out on the sex offenders list
whcih is unfair as no one but other doggers can see us (aprt from the police)
ls
UPDATE,apparently all have pleaded not guilty and will appear in court in due course,should be interesting,if the police were deliberately waiting in the bushes with 'surveilance equipment',it is not right,something stinks about this but I can't pin it down to what it is,a sort of 'entrapment' type thing although no one forced or 'set up' the doggers to my knowledge,its not like the police stumbled across them on routine patrol nor was it the result of someone phoning in a complaint that they responded to,the outcome will be interesting,possibly a test case(I don't know if there has been a precident),so time will tell,I do feel for the doggers though and would not like to be in their position at this time,john