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Hi
New to all this really but could do with some help from you lovely people (couples and ladies smile ).
I've been loitering around several well known venues across Yorkshire (Gods own county) and Lancs at the right sort of times but really nervous about making a right(or left) tit out of myself by popping up and doing the wrong thing!
So... a few scanerios.....a CAR with a tasty blonde and her guy pull up next to me, drop their seats, but don't do much else other than look like they're waiting.... do i make the first move and if so what should I do...causally wander round the car park (its dark and they'd struggle to see me from more than 10 feet - reet cool!) or wave (looking like a nerd) or wait for them to say "come on in big boy" - does that ever happen?
Just don't want to appear a nerd, desperate, freaky or lost?
Any help...plz
Timo - 69
ps I'm well fit!
Its never an easy call, and even the best get it wrong from time to time. Couples all have their own rules of engagement so the best you can aim for is an approach that won't invite unneccesary voilence toward you lol
In the given scenario, walking up to her side of the car from slightly behind the window should'nt cause too much offence :lol: . If they aren't already playing, they might just start wink If not, back off.
The next ploy would be to approach the driver's side, because if they are looking for guys to get in on the action, it'll usually be the "him" that conducts the interview..
Don't attempt to shout through a closed window either. If they are interested, he'll let it be known..If not, return to your car and wait.
You are right to be cautious. Too many guys are walking up to cars containing members of the non dogging savvy public assuming because its a dogging site, all couples within must invairably be up for fun..Not neccessarily so :lol:
Many couples won't need much excuse to leave if they feel things aren't right. Sometimes its more to do with the couple's emotions than through any fault of the guys approach..Your best ploy is to not give them that excuse :wink: Assume all couples are inexperienced newbies until shown otherwise :lol: :lol:
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Hi
New to all this really but could do with some help from you lovely people (couples and ladies smile ).
I've been loitering around several well known venues across Yorkshire (Gods own county) and Lancs at the right sort of times but really nervous about making a right(or left) tit out of myself by popping up and doing the wrong thing!
So... a few scanerios.....a CAR with a tasty blonde and her guy pull up next to me, drop their seats, but don't do much else other than look like they're waiting.... do i make the first move and if so what should I do...causally wander round the car park (its dark and they'd struggle to see me from more than 10 feet - reet cool!) or wave (looking like a nerd) or wait for them to say "come on in big boy" - does that ever happen?
Just don't want to appear a nerd, desperate, freaky or lost?
Any help...plz
Timo - 69
ps I'm well fit!

Firstly welcome to the forums hope you enjoy your stay.
The advice given by Uncle Dirty is correct and the only thing i would add is you are unlikely to be invited in with the comments come on in big boy, the best you can hope for is to be allowed to watch the show unfold. Now i'm not saying that involvements do not happen, they do but are rare though.
You may well spend a considerable time sitting and waiting for even a show, be respectfull to couples when they do turn up and who knows what may happen. :)
Hi to you both - great comments and good to know that I'm not barking up the wrong tree (no pun intended!)
A week on - two trips - my patience is getting better!
Hope you're enjoying the warm evennings...
T
You aren't alone with the "approach" concearns, far from it lol Its the number one question we get from guys in chat rooms, by PM or even "out in the field" :lol:
There are so many factors involved, but the ones that catch out the newbie couples, and of course the newbie guys, are usually the psychological ones :lol: gets them every time :lol: Its often the main reason for "giving up" too, and looking to arranged meets as a less problematic solution.
The fact you have "concearns" are good. Its interesting to get differing "takes" on the game too. "Shad's" comment about "shows" being far more frequent than involvement is true, in THEIR experience. In OUR experience, its the complete opposite, in that 90% of car park results are interactive :lol: Shad isn't wrong, and neither are we, it just varies from place to place or changes over time.
I'm tempted to write something long :lol: Your jokes are as shite as mine, I feel a connection :lol: You'll wonder why I make something so simple sound so complex :lol: Don't worry about it. My mate is a mechanic, and he knows engines. His knowledge of mechanics doesn't lessen his enjoyment of driving, he just knows why things go wrong sometimes :lol: When I have an hour to spare, I'll run some thoughts past you :lol: Brace yourself wink
Timo
Like me it sounds like you are looking for a genuine, exciting and shared erotic experience, as (I hope) are the couples who show. But out there in the wild it can feel very much like you are on your own.
I suspect I may well have loitered in the same places as you, or not far off. Patience is so important. I have always 'walked' away if I wasn't comfortable, and I am almost sure that I've missed out once or twice because of this. But I've also once been chased out of a car park and followed for miles by a couple who really were NOT wanting to be watched (even though they were obviously and quite openly having sex in a place well frequented by the dogging community). The best night ever was when I pulled in and saw a car with movement in it, oviously a couple who were just enjoying themselves regardless. I approached carefully on the basis that they must have seen my lights and would react if I wasn't welcome. They were happy to be watched. It was all about timing - complete luck.
I have since been in a relationship with a girl who was tempted to show off. This gave me some more perspective on the feelings and fears for those being watched for the first time. It could be quite nerve-wracking. (We never got further than an open hotel room window.)
I think you just have to trust to luck and take care of yourself. Don't try to force it. Approach carefully and try to work out what's really going on. Even if a couple are interested, they might just not feel right at that particular time. You may have many many hours waiting. Just stay safe and try not to make assumptions. It is very easy to see what you want to see and not what is really there! Good luck.
Re.
That was very well written RE wink The hint you made regarding doggers being careful to see the bigger picture, and not just what they WANT to see is very important, it IS a very easy trap to fall into and accounts for so many conflicts of interest.
When I'm trying to make that point, I use a quote from "Francis Bacon".
"For what a man would like to be true, that he more readily believes".
Speaking of catching couples at play who maybe not "dogging savvy" lol Interestingly, many couples that look to dogging as a way of being exhibitionistic, have in the past been "caught in the act" by a complete stranger :wink: If you trawl back through a few threads, and look for one with "Thetford" in the title, by Witwoo, you'll see a very clear illustration of that sort of dogged encounter :wink:.
You are correct when you say this game is all about "luck" and patience. You can however improve your success rate dramatically :wink: Those doggers that seem to get hit after hit are undoubtedly "out in the field" for long periods. They get better results through experience, although most won't actually consciously realise WHY they are getting it right more often :wink: They seem to have "that touch" or "lucky streak" :wink: As the results improve, they stay out more, so in a way, its a catch-22 situation. Doggers often complain that they stake out car parks for nights on end over a period of months, yet have never seen a thing :lol: That is often not true :lol: Its usually a case of them wanting a privately arranged session, whilst trying to assure us they are committed doggers..just down on their luck :lol: When pressed, their nightly vigils over the better part of a year usually turn out to be a couple of half-arsed loops of a car park over a period of four nights :lol:
Right..I've still got to sort that "biggy" redface I've forgotten how it all works now confused It'll come to me :lol:
what a fantastic topic as a newbie myself the info is very welcome because no decent person wants to offend
im a single fem who goes dogging,
sometimes i go alone cuse i just like to watch, sometimes i go as a couple cuse we just like to watch,
dont presume cuse there is a female in the car they are going to be playing not watching.
when i go to play i tend to put a forum post or ad up, now i know some will say this isnt true dogging, but with the ratio of people in cormwall into this, the amount of locations, hours in a evening i find it the best bet to get some action.
if im playing we will always park so we can see whos entering the car park (police watch etc) and always facing out so we can drive off safely and timely should we need to.
i always take condoms, wet wipes and kitchen roll, and always take my mess home with me.
if when playing we want watchers only then we tend to keep doors shut and windows mostely up. if i want hands in etc i will wind window down.
if more we sometimes get out and move to back seats or over bonnet... howver this still isnt always invite to the watchers to join in.
NEVER get into a person car with out the nod, its quite simple say do you mind if i get in, they will either say yes or no or not reply, dont get in if they dont reply.
remember your own safety, should you decide to get into a car/van etc.
i may want watchers to join in when setting out dogging, but that watcher may just not do it for me.
then i wont.
so as has already been said its not so cut and dry,
but i like your post and style, good luck, have fun and keep safe
xxx fem xx
Right fellas, this is what i've done lol Timo, Mole..instead of posting on the open forum, i've sent a few thoughts to your PM boxes :lol:
To be fair, it all got too Bandler, Grinder, Derren Brown, Richard Dawkins and Desmond Morris for most tastes redface :lol: On the forum, it would attract too many rolling eyes icons rolleyes :lol: I get carried away and have to wind my neck in sometimes, but then I do the same during sex, which is why i'm currently looking into the evolutionary theory of "survival of the fastest" :lol: I.E, ejaculating quickly would have been advantageous to my ancestors, given that his woman would have less time to escape..Hence my descendancy from a long line of pre-mature ejaculators :lol:
Anyway, guys...read it and bin it, seriously :lol: You don't need to know any of it, most you'll already know, but just hadn't thought about it maybe and thinking about it in a car park will just fuck you right up :lol:
IF any of it proves useful, just buy me a pie and a beer if you see us around :P Happy hunting wink