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Quote by starlightcouple
So, in 3 years, you have moved from Plaistow to Thamesmead to posh Bexley.
Moonlight flits?
caravan and a transit G
You been asleep for the past three days Rob? Not a moon light flit in sight Rob, just moving from one area to another. Have to be bloody careful though with my new 60 inch telly for me cinema room. Well................easy pickings on JSA apparently. :bounce:
Oh and no van or a caravan, but a very nice removal firm in my local area I have used. Anytime you may want them Rob, send me a pm as you have done in the past and I will pass on all the info.
im sure most of the pm's i sent you was replies!! but hey ho star im only pulling ya strings lighten up a little :wink:
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im sure most of the pm's i sent you was replies!! but hey ho star im only pulling ya strings lighten up a little
Not all were replies Rob. :wink:
Massively lightened up here Rob. :cheers:
Just as well DC dropped his plans for an alcohol tax then.
Aren't UKIP in favour of the alcohol tax?
Quote by GnV
im sure most of the pm's i sent you was replies!! but hey ho star im only pulling ya strings lighten up a little
Not all were replies Rob. :wink:
Massively lightened up here Rob. :cheers:
Just as well DC dropped his plans for an alcohol tax then.
Aren't UKIP in favour of the alcohol tax?
Is that your attempt at being funny or being political GnV? Hard to tell here. :grin:
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No star, just an attempt at winding you up.
Seems it was successful :grin:
If you believe that GnV then you will believe that France is a major advocate of Burqa's.
:giggle::giggle:
Also not very grown up practice for someone of your years to admit to trying to wind up another member. What was your hopeful outcome there? That I would get so wound up that I would say something that got me banned perhaps?
:smackbottom: Naughty GnV. Well that's it then. Yet again the Appeal court Judges put his human rights above the rights of the British people. Once again this Government for all their talk, have been shown to be nothing more than limp wristed European puppets.
It seems this guy has every right to smirk, and the rest of the world must think that the UK has gone stark raving fucking bonkers. This guy was released onto our streets and yet he still broke his bail conditions within a month and is back in jail.
What do Muslim hate merchants have to do to get the law to sort them out? I despair at Cameron who is all talk and tiny bollocks, and dribbles shite when he talks. America have the right idea when it comes to terrorists...........jail em for life or kill em.
Sex God
Quote by starlightcouple
Well that's it then. Yet again the Appeal court Judges put his human rights above the rights of the British people. Once again this Government for all their talk, have been shown to be nothing more than limp wristed European puppets.
It seems this guy has every right to smirk, and the rest of the world must think that the UK has gone stark raving fucking bonkers. This guy was released onto our streets and yet he still broke his bail conditions within a month and is back in jail.
What do Muslim hate merchants have to do to get the law to sort them out? I despair at Cameron who is all talk and tiny bollocks, and dribbles shite when he talks. America have the right idea when it comes to terrorists...........jail em for life or kill em.
or wrong fully extradite them to the US and leave the UK tax payer to pick up the bill.
so probably best leave this one to courts and hope the right outcome is the correct one.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
or wrong fully extradite them to the US and leave the UK tax payer to pick up the bill.
so probably best leave this one to courts and hope the right outcome is the correct one.
This is without a doubt the biggest farce I can ever remember the British Government have found themselves in Rob. Surely nobody can deny this is a very dangerous individual and is linked to terrorism in a big way. Most people including all sides of Parliament, want him out of our country, but the laws that Tony Bliar signed us to ( which btw not a single person in the UK asked for )surely have to be changed?
Ms May and her ' colleagues ' must now realise that this ludicrous situation has to come to an end. The only way that is going to happen is either they stick him on a plane in the middle of the night to Jordon, which is not going to happen, or change the current laws. To do that either we have to quit Europe, or quit the Human Right's laws Bliar signed up to, or to renegotiate a new treaty just for the UK on the bits we don't like. Can anyone really see any of those things being done under a Tory Government with, I have no bollocks Cameron at the helm?
Exactly...............so he stays in this country and all those war dead laying in graves up and down the country who fought and died for this country to stop people like him from hurting us, must literally be turning and turning again in their graves. What a utter disgrace our Governments have become, and there was me thinking they were there to protect the citizens of this country and had total control of our security. No Europe has that now.
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Quote by starlightcouple
or wrong fully extradite them to the US and leave the UK tax payer to pick up the bill.
so probably best leave this one to courts and hope the right outcome is the correct one.
This is without a doubt the biggest farce I can ever remember the British Government have found themselves in Rob. Surely nobody can deny this is a very dangerous individual and is linked to terrorism in a big way. Most people including all sides of Parliament, want him out of our country, but the laws that Tony Bliar signed us to ( which btw not a single person in the UK asked for )surely have to be changed?
Ms May and her ' colleagues ' must now realise that this ludicrous situation has to come to an end. The only way that is going to happen is either they stick him on a plane in the middle of the night to Jordon, which is not going to happen, or change the current laws. To do that either we have to quit Europe, or quit the Human Right's laws Bliar signed up to, or to renegotiate a new treaty just for the UK on the bits we don't like. Can anyone really see any of those things being done under a Tory Government with, I have no bollocks Cameron at the helm?
Exactly...............so he stays in this country and all those war dead laying in graves up and down the country who fought and died for this country to stop people like him from hurting us, must literally be turning and turning again in their graves. What a utter disgrace our Governments have become, and there was me thinking they were there to protect the citizens of this country and had total control of our security. No Europe has that now.
i think you will find that there are other avenues yet star
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Surely nobody can deny this is a very dangerous individual and is linked to terrorism in a big way.
Quote by GnV
Then why hasn't he been charged with any offence whatsoever?
Charged GnV? He has been found guilty in his 1999 Abu Qatada was sentenced in absentia by Jordan to life imprisonment with hard labour for conspiracy to carry out terror attacks, and subsequently in 2000 to a further 15 years for his involvement in a plot to bomb tourists attending Millennium celebrations in Jordan.
Now Jordon has asked for his extradition to serve that sentence. He entered the UK illegally and like many others here illegally, had he been kicked out at the time this matter would not be before the UK courts. Apparently there are over illegals currently waiting for their hearings under the immigration panel.
Is it not right that a person is tried and convicted in another country, and we then refuse to hand him back? Who are we as a nation to question another country and their justice system. We all know he is playing us all for fools, with plenty of help from British legal aid lawyers and Human rights activists, oh and Europe. Britain just simply does not have any guts left anymore, and especially from that limp wristed PM Cameron.
Cameron will pay the ultimate price come the next election, and he has been seen to be a liar and a fraud from where I am sitting, after listening to his utter drivel on Talk Sport radio before he became PM. A liar and a rogue.
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It's a bit drastic, just leaving Europe so that the country can get shot of someone.
Drastic? I would get out tomorrow if it were down to me. Europe is making us look like idiots and is stopping us from acting on our own laws. Get a new suit out Farage as you is heading for power.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i think you will find that there are other avenues yet star
Well except shooting him in the head I don't know what else we can do Rob. He has the backing of the ECHR, also the backing of our Appeal Court Judges. If there were other avenues I am sure Ms May would have used them on this current attempt to kick him out.
Maybe we should ask America to send their men in and do to him what they did to Bin bag Laden ?
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Charged GnV? He has been found guilty in his 1999 Abu Qatada was sentenced in absentia by Jordan to life imprisonment with hard labour for conspiracy to carry out terror attacks, and subsequently in 2000 to a further 15 years for his involvement in a plot to bomb tourists attending Millennium celebrations in Jordan.
Now Jordon has asked for his extradition to serve that sentence. He entered the UK illegally and like many others here illegally, had he been kicked out at the time this matter would not be before the UK courts. Apparently there are over illegals currently waiting for their hearings under the immigration panel.
Is it not right that a person is tried and convicted in another country, and we then refuse to hand him back? Who are we as a nation to question another country and their justice system.
His original 'conviction' in Jordan has been called into question, quite rightly, as at the time it is clear that evidence against him was tainted and obtained improperly.
AFAIK, Jordan have not asked for him to be sent back to serve 'that sentence' as you describe it but to face a retrial where the evidence that will be presented will have been obtained not under duress or torture, such as it was alleged following the first trial.
Are you really saying that under a Farage run Britain, people's human rights will not be respected and if a foreign banana state such as Zimbabwe run by a fruitcake like Mugabe asked for David Cameron to be extradited to face some trumped up charge you'd happily see him go?
On second thoughts, don't answer that one
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Quote by GnV
Charged GnV? He has been found guilty in his 1999 Abu Qatada was sentenced in absentia by Jordan to life imprisonment with hard labour for conspiracy to carry out terror attacks, and subsequently in 2000 to a further 15 years for his involvement in a plot to bomb tourists attending Millennium celebrations in Jordan.
Now Jordon has asked for his extradition to serve that sentence. He entered the UK illegally and like many others here illegally, had he been kicked out at the time this matter would not be before the UK courts. Apparently there are over illegals currently waiting for their hearings under the immigration panel.
Is it not right that a person is tried and convicted in another country, and we then refuse to hand him back? Who are we as a nation to question another country and their justice system.
His original 'conviction' in Jordan has been called into question, quite rightly, as at the time it is clear that evidence against him was tainted and obtained improperly.
AFAIK, Jordan have not asked for him to be sent back to serve 'that sentence' as you describe it but to face a retrial where the evidence that will be presented will have been obtained not under duress or torture, such as it was alleged following the first trial.
Are you really saying that under a Farage run Britain, people's human rights will not be respected and if a foreign banana state such as Zimbabwe run by a fruitcake like Mugabe asked for David Cameron to be extradited to face some trumped up charge you'd happily see him go?
On second thoughts, don't answer that one
on the bright side G we might see the smug faced bastard Blair extradited to Iraq
"don't bend over in the shower tony you'll feel like the British public when you was in power" :twisted:
Quote by GnV
His original 'conviction' in Jordan has been called into question, quite rightly, as at the time it is clear that evidence against him was tainted and obtained improperly.
Allegedly. Called into question by who exactly? Europe? The Lafties? Tony Bliar the Middle East peace envoy? The UK ?
Quote by GnV
AFAIK, Jordan have not asked for him to be sent back to serve 'that sentence' as you describe it but to face a retrial where the evidence that will be presented will have been obtained not under duress or torture, such as it was alleged following the first trial.
Well what is he worrying about then? His original trial and conviction will be quashed, and that alleged unfair trial will be started again but without any alleged evidence gained by torture. I would have thought then that this ever so whiter than white individual, would have wanted to go back so as to prove his innocence and clear his tainted name? :doh: FFS you could not make this bollocks up even if you had the most vivid of imaginations.
Quote by GnV
Are you really saying that under a Farage run Britain, people's human rights will not be respected and if a foreign banana state such as Zimbabwe run by a fruitcake like Mugabe asked for David Cameron to be extradited to face some trumped up charge you'd happily see him go?
How silly your arguments become GnV the longer we get into a day. Debate sensibly GnV, or not at all eh? :bounce:
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On second thoughts, don't answer that one
I did anyway.
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Well except shooting him in the head I don't know what else we can do
Quote by GnV
So, that is sensible debate then...
I'll leave you to it.
I for one would not be at all unhappy if some trigger happy guy shot him in the head. I bet there would also privately be a few happy people in politics as well as out there in the real world, who would be dancing to their greatest tunes.
I think shooting him would be a very good outcome for the UK's finances and for it's overall safety, it certainly has been where Bin Bag Laden is concerned. Dead equals no more problems..........simples.:bounce:
Quote by starlightcouple
I for one would not be at all unhappy if some trigger happy guy shot him in the head. I bet there would also privately be a few happy people in politics as well as out there in the real world, who would be dancing to their greatest tunes.
Why? Do you know what he has done? or is this based on total hearsay as reported by the newspapers etc.
If its just based on his rhetoric, then Star you could be tried for the very same thing.
Quote by starlightcouple
I think shooting him would be a very good outcome for the UK's finances and for it's overall safety, it certainly has been where Bin Bag Laden is concerned. Dead equals no more problems..........simples.:bounce:
Whats on trial here is Jordan's ability to keep their promise of not using evidence based on torture.
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I for one would not be at all unhappy if some trigger happy guy shot him in the head. I bet there would also privately be a few happy people in politics as well as out there in the real world, who would be dancing to their greatest tunes.
Why? Do you know what he has done? or is this based on total hearsay as reported by the newspapers etc.
If its just based on his rhetoric, then Star you could be tried for the very same thing.
Quote by starlightcouple
I think shooting him would be a very good outcome for the UK's finances and for it's overall safety, it certainly has been where Bin Bag Laden is concerned. Dead equals no more problems..........simples.:bounce:
Whats on trial here is Jordan's ability to keep their promise of not using evidence based on torture.
Seems it is all a load of rhetoric bollocks then. Seems the British Government have him all wrong then Rogue. Want his and his ilk living next door to you then? Even the very people in the Appeal Court said he was a very dangerous individual.
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It is truly frightening that an open supporter of a far right political party would write that, with absolutely no qualms whatsover after accusing somebody else of not being sensible.
Far right party? Who is that then? UKIP?
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:Nope no qualms at all about writing that at all.
You got a problem with that then?
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It is truly frightening that an open supporter of a far right political party would write that, with absolutely no qualms whatsover after accusing somebody else of not being sensible.
Far right party? Who is that then? UKIP?
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:Nope no qualms at all about writing that at all.
You got a problem with that then?
Then I think you are as much, if not more dangerous than Abu Qatada himself.
Quote by GnV
It is truly frightening that an open supporter of a far right political party would write that, with absolutely no qualms whatsover after accusing somebody else of not being sensible.
Far right party? Who is that then? UKIP?
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:Nope no qualms at all about writing that at all.
You got a problem with that then?
Then I think you are as much, if not more dangerous than Abu Qatada himself.
Don't worry about it matey......you're in France so this don't affect you.:notes:
Quote by starlightcouple
It is truly frightening that an open supporter of a far right political party would write that, with absolutely no qualms whatsover after accusing somebody else of not being sensible.
Far right party? Who is that then? UKIP?
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:Nope no qualms at all about writing that at all.
You got a problem with that then?
Then I think you are as much, if not more dangerous than Abu Qatada himself.
Don't worry about it matey......you're in France so this don't affect you.:notes:
Actually, I'm very worried for you star. I think you need help.
In a high number of the otherwise meaningless shootings in the States, troubled people like you feature very strongly as perpetrators.
I must hope, for everyone's sake, that you are not in possession of a firearms certificate or have access to firearms, legally or otherwise.
Seems I am not the only ones who think the shooting of terrorists and their followers is not all bad.
Seems that the American President himself along with Hillary Clinton who is the American Secretary of State, gave the orders to kill. Seems I am good company then.
Seems the American people hold the Navy Seals who shot him in the highest regards.
Still some on here would have liked him to come to the UK and settle here as well no doubt.
Seems that the American President himself along with Hillary Clinton who is the American Secretary of State, gave the orders to kill. Seems I am good company then.
Seems the American people hold the Navy Seals who shot him in the highest regards.
Still some on here would have liked him to come to the UK and settle here as well no doubt.
Quote by GnV
In a high number of the otherwise meaningless shootings in the States, troubled people like you feature very strongly as perpetrators.
I must hope, for everyone's sake, that you are not in possession of a firearms certificate or have access to firearms, legally or otherwise.
Is that it GnV?
Anyways I cannot understand why you of all the people on here have anything to say about this man. You have plenty to say about what goes on in the UK, when you don't even live here. You should concentrate more on your resident country.......
Quote by starlightcouple
In a high number of the otherwise meaningless shootings in the States, troubled people like you feature very strongly as perpetrators.
I must hope, for everyone's sake, that you are not in possession of a firearms certificate or have access to firearms, legally or otherwise.
Is that it GnV?
Anyways I cannot understand why you of all the people on here have anything to say about this man. You have plenty to say about what goes on in the UK, when you don't even live here. You should concentrate more on your resident country.......
Are you asking me not to post on here anymore star?
