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Quote by Lizaleanrob
12 hour cooling off period would be better that way peeps would have time to reconsider what they write wink

I normaly always use this system, except I do not need 12 hours to be able to conduct my self in an exceptable manner. I read the message, close the message, think for a few mins and then reply. lol
Quote by Bluefish2009
12 hour cooling off period would be better that way peeps would have time to reconsider what they write wink

I normaly always use this system, except I do not need 12 hours to be able to conduct my self in an exceptable manner. I read the message, close the message, think for a few mins and then reply. lol
Good tip :thumbup:
We do use cooling off periods - 24hr ones normally depending on the nature of the issue and past conduct of a member. As always - it is discussed by other moderators before action is taken - rarely is it instant (though that has and does happen occasionally).
As a member I have no problems with things discussed twice/thrice or whatever. If I'm interested, I shall contribute to the thread - if not move on to another.
from what i can see, forum softwares probably work in a somewhat basic way. they would need to be improved to allow for more selective use.
But the general idea is to be able to subject offenders postings to scrutiny before they are published, and relative to that particular thread. Obviously the mods would simply do what they already do, but they are warned that the offender is trying to post again in that thread.
The offending poster can continue to post in any other thread without scrutiny.
So its specific to the thread involved. but as said i think that level of facility isn't readily available in the software, otherwise it would already be in use. Or maybe they can do such things but require more memory processing time etc.
It appears that the only way to stop an individual from posting in a thread is to either ban them from the site or close the thread. That this is probably determined more by the software's capability than the decisions of the moderators. This seems remarkably crude for what is an essential part of this site and many others.
Quote by Bluefish2009
I read the message, close the message, think for a few mins and then reply. lol

:doh:
Knew I was forgetting to do something
Dave_Notts
Quote by duncanlondon
But the general idea is to be able to subject offenders postings to scrutiny before they are published, and relative to that particular thread. Obviously the mods would simply do what they already do, but they are warned that the offender is trying to post again in that thread.

Now you're talking about pre-moderation? By who, exactly? confused i.e. You or I choose to submit a post, or a follow-up post on a controversial thread, but a Mod has already subjectively decided that there's a bit of a fuss, and so it doesn't go up on a thread until a Mod has read it, and decided if it's allowed to go up?
You sure that's what you want? :?
N x x x ;)
Quote by neilinleeds
But the general idea is to be able to subject offenders postings to scrutiny before they are published, and relative to that particular thread. Obviously the mods would simply do what they already do, but they are warned that the offender is trying to post again in that thread.

Now you're talking about pre-moderation? By who, exactly? confused i.e. You or I choose to submit a post, or a follow-up post on a controversial thread, but a Mod has already subjectively decided that there's a bit of a fuss, and so it doesn't go up on a thread until a Mod has read it, and decided if it's allowed to go up?
You sure that's what you want? :?
N x x x ;)
I'm sure as heck I don't - got enough to keep us going keeping Dave_notts in check, reminding him of his password, banning him on regular basis etc. etc. :? lol :lol: :lol:
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We shouldn't have to censor posts as its the members responsibility to act accordingly within the site aup, t & c's etc.
Mods have discussed a lot of the suggestions already raised and for various reasons they aren't workable.
The only thing that would stop all the issues raised is to do away with the forums. I wouldn't want to see that and I doubt anyone else would.
i think that if the moderation results in closing the thread, that will occur after a recognisabe set of circumstances has set in. as i said before those corcumstances are usually very similar in such cases. i can see that a thread is descending into a squabble and so can a lot of others, so in effect we are all witnessing the event. but standing by in fascination, seeing how far it can go before the inevitable locking must be brought into effect. that seems to me a collective responsibility as well.
so if we all can see the inevitable on its way, why is not possible to simply pull out the main offenders; rather than stop everyone else having fun.
it still seems like a very crude way to deal with a problem. why dismiss the entire workforce, if two offenders can be sacked.
This thread has gone completely off topic from the original post, but hey ho, that's life!
Anyway, just a couple of points regarding moderation, as that now seems to be the new topic.
As you may have notice I have already given out a warning to one member in this thread in a manner that anyone reading it can see that we have taken action and for you, the members, to be aware that we will take action. The balance is trying to decide how firmly or otherwise we deal with a situation. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. We try not to interfere as much as possible to allow you to be self-regulating, but this is often viewed as not doing enough. Where do we and you, draw the line between over moderation and not doing enough? It can't be automated, it has to have a human interraction. Our options are limited. Where possible a warning in the thread sometimes works. Other options are giving a timeout. We can 't give less than a 24 hour suspension and quite frankly I can't see the point. If someone isn't around for a day the ban wouldn't be noticed until after it has expired!
We have in the past also told troublesome posters to specifically not post in a thread again, to allow it to run its' natural course. That sometimes is enough, but if the other posters then 'bait' the absent member it can draw them back in, thus causing another problem. Do we ban the person who came back to the thread, but not the 'baiter' or do we ban both or do we do nothing? Doing nothing in these circumstances is not an option, so sometimes we may have to lock the thread as it has gone past the recovery stage.
Believe it or not we don't lock many threads. After this came up a few weeks ago about 'all these threads being locked' I checked back over the last six months and on average only two threads were locked per week and the average would have been a lot less if I took out all Brucies locked threads from the equation!! Two threads a week isn't that bad really, is it?
I think it was mentioned about censoring posts. I'm against censorship if it can be avoided. To go through a thread and remove troublesome posts just ruins the thread completely. If you look back at such a thread without knowing posts have been removed you would wonder what the hell we are all talking about! It's also useful for historical reasons when looking back at how a particular poster has been previously as to how, if at all, we may deal with them.
At the end of the day, if we take action against you in whatever shape or form, take it on the chin and move on. If you are forever thinking you were badly done by then it affects your attitude towards us, the mods, to others who you may think were as bad as you but slipped under the radar and to other members who see you as having an axe to grind. It's not an attractive trait to carry around with you and it shows in your posting style. Just accept it as a blip and carry on enjoying the Site. If you find that difficult to do, then why stay? What do you hope to achieve by constant little nitpicks and underhand sneaky little comments? This is not aimed at anyone specifically at all, but it goes on all the time.
It's your Forums. We don't make you post. We don't force you to be abusive to each other. We just try to hang around in the background watching and hoping that we never have to do anything at all. Unfortunately at times we do have to step in to give someone a 'tug' just to allow the membership as a whole enjoy what they have paid for (even if they haven't paid anything!!!)
Spirited debate is great, namecalling and insults are for the playground.
just enjoy the site with some respect for your fellow members - please? lol
Mal
wink
thanks for saying that. i am sure most people appreciate the work of the mods, and its a canny skill to do.
i don't think its the skills of the mods that are at fault. obviously at some point in the events of a controversial thread the only option appears to be to nuke the entire thread. so i assume you just don't have the software tools to manage out individual postings.
HUZZAH!
lp
so going back to the topic, i think some topics get discussed by being presented from a variety of different viewpoints, framed within a set of examples; but basically the same debate. so in that way the topic can be discussed again. but restarting a thread that has been blocked comes with a toxic component, and people are steered by that.
also this not the only site to have the same kind of debates. joining a debate on the times say would have a very different ambience to work in. same debate but much different types of input.
Quote by corrie
If there are specific issues between individuals they should be settled in a closed area not in an open post.
I believe all of us who post in a forum are seeking attention of some kind else why are we posting? Lots of other people on this site have views and do not post and knowing them its not because they are not shy, its just because they don't feel the need to.
I hate personally the bickering on here and the attacking I have seen in some threads and I do not believe anyone has the right to do this.
An online etiquette means that arguments can develop without it being personal.
However, arguing means that you have to have material that can substantiate your thinking. To just say "I think" is fine but where does your thinking come from, who else agrees with it and what are the counter arguments. An argument isn't a row which is what I have often seen and I find that boring to read and join in. We all seek truth but its different for all of us so lets agree to disagree and if we listen to a sound argument and it makes sense, be able to change ones mind.
I love the fact that there is a current affairs area and that anyone can start a thread. I for one however post less since I have seen one or two people attacked. I may not agree with peoples views but I will not attack them. I will challenge their veiws or ask for more information but thats okay to do.
So lets cut the personal attacks eh as they are dam boring to read and keep people from posting.

corrie i think you are far too clever and sensible for the forum we need more like you on...
anyway if there are going to be heated debates maybe we could rig up some kit to these peeps and derive some kind of power from them. then use it to generate electricity.
Quote by corrie
If there are specific issues between individuals they should be settled in a closed area not in an open post.
I believe all of us who post in a forum are seeking attention of some kind else why are we posting? Lots of other people on this site have views and do not post and knowing them its not because they are not shy, its just because they don't feel the need to.
I hate personally the bickering on here and the attacking I have seen in some threads and I do not believe anyone has the right to do this.
An online etiquette means that arguments can develop without it being personal.
However, arguing means that you have to have material that can substantiate your thinking. To just say "I think" is fine but where does your thinking come from, who else agrees with it and what are the counter arguments. An argument isn't a row which is what I have often seen and I find that boring to read and join in. We all seek truth but its different for all of us so lets agree to disagree and if we listen to a sound argument and it makes sense, be able to change ones mind.
I love the fact that there is a current affairs area and that anyone can start a thread. I for one however post less since I have seen one or two people attacked. I may not agree with peoples views but I will not attack them. I will challenge their veiws or ask for more information but thats okay to do.
So lets cut the personal attacks eh as they are dam boring to read and keep people from posting.
yep corrie. i've been called a fuckwit over financial matters i know nothing about but they do ?
stupid over h5-n1 h1-n1 i know nothing about (hee hee), lectured by a nurse about guidelines in the n.h.s. on the swine/avian flu pandemic (tee hee, load of bollocks).
a conspiracy theorist over 9/11 and the anglo/american strategy in eurasia.
being repetitious over banksters and politicians.
in most cases, zero reference being made to the specific detail of the subject matter raised in my post's.
at no time do i cut and paste, whatever that means, but i am constantly accused of doing so.
rather than raise issues generally stimulated by the media for public consumption and regurgitated verbatim by politically sympathetic individuals, i try to incite critical thinking with a controversial/contradictory to the mainstream, veiw, as described in the heading of this part of the forum.
whilst i concur with most of what you say corrie,
it's great fun to watch people hanging themselves, metaphorically speaking, but fucking boring when the same people refuse to address the specifics and just reply with personal attacks. x
I can see people advocating for gagging orders thus limiting freedom of expression....i think swearing and insulting language should be tolerated on this forum.
Quote by indraloka
corrie i think you are far too clever and sensible for the forum we need more like you on...

Isn't one of me enough Indra ? lol :lol: Thank you but I am only one voice of many people on here and I am humbled always by the knowledge and talent on this site to articulate wide and often very serious and well thought out views. I just wish that we celebrated them more and attacked less because of our own view.
Gulson glad to see you posting as well x
Quote by flower411
I can see people advocating for gagging orders thus limiting freedom of expression....i think swearing and insulting language should be tolerated on this forum.

Oh Fuck off !! Of course they fucking shouldn`t you fuckin halfwit !!!
You are soooo good lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by corrie
I can see people advocating for gagging orders thus limiting freedom of expression....i think swearing and insulting language should be tolerated on this forum.

Oh Fuck off !! Of course they fucking shouldn`t you fuckin halfwit !!!
You are soooo good lol :lol: :lol: :lol: for fucks sake corrie, how the fuckin ell do i get this pissin chat to work ? dave x
I have no idea you are asking a fuckwit for advice you twit lol :lol: :lol:
Quote by corrie
I have no idea you are asking a fuckwit for advice you twit lol :lol: :lol:
rite you silly fuckin cow, i aint gona try an chat wiv ya, oh and you stink ! xxx
may as well ring the n.h.s. helpline and get a diagnosis from the call centre with fully trained/degree in extra sensory deception.
Quote by corrie
I can see people advocating for gagging orders thus limiting freedom of expression....i think swearing and insulting language should be tolerated on this forum.

Oh Fuck off !! Of course they fucking shouldn`t you fuckin halfwit !!!
You are soooo good lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
hehehhehe now thats better than reporting to admin everytime some crosses your line :lol:
Quote by gulsonroad30664
I have no idea you are asking a fuckwit for advice you twit lol :lol: :lol:
rite you silly fuckin cow, i aint gona try an chat wiv ya, oh and you stink ! xxx :lol: :lol:
Quote by flower411
I have no idea you are asking a fuckwit for advice you twit lol :lol: :lol:
rite you silly fuckin cow, i aint gona try an chat wiv ya, oh and you stink ! xxx :lol: :lol:
Oi !!!! stop bleedin laughing !!! You fuckin started it !!!
Idiot...dont laugh!
Quote by Phuckers
I can see people advocating for gagging orders thus limiting freedom of expression....i think swearing and insulting language should be tolerated on this forum.

Oh Fuck off !! Of course they fucking shouldn`t you fuckin halfwit !!!
You are soooo good lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
hehehhehe now thats better than reporting to admin everytime some crosses your line :lol:
Amen to that....
Seeing as we are in an insulting mood, can I pretty please tell some of the members exactly what I think of them? :lol:
carefull you lot as i fear mods will close this thread based on everyone is getting on just too well whatever next ..........you`ll all be sleeping together or something
wink
kirk douglas! let's knock him. fucking cunt kirk douglas! with your blue eyes. just cos you were in the vikings you think you can swan about the world lording it over everyone! well you can,t , fuck off!
Quote by Lizaleanrob
carefull you lot as i fear mods will close this thread based on everyone is getting on just too well whatever next ..........you`ll all be sleeping together or something
wink

For godness sake behave, what sort of a site do you think this is?