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Went to work Tuesday morning, little or no traffic issues, just as it has been for the past 6 weeks :-D Wednesday morning...jees!!! banghead the schools are back open and the traffic was 30 fold, and it really hit home just what a massive effect the school run makes to rush hour traffic :huh:
Now its not very often i look towards the USA for good ideas :grin: but they seem to have it spot on with those big yellow school buses they have.
Firstly, the difference to road congestion would be hugely alleviated.
Kids would get to school safely and on time,
They will need drivers, mechanics, cleaning crews etc so jobs would be created, and rather than claiming job seekers allowance from the state, they`d all be paying income tax back into the government coffers.
Less cars on the road means less pollution, less accidents, and less wear and tear on the roads.
Less accidents means cheaper car insurance(in theory)rolleyes and less strain on A&E depts.
Less wear and tear of roads means cheaper road tax (in theory):roll:
ok im pushin it a bit regarding insurance companies and road tax being reduced lol but d`ya see the benefits and the knock on effect it would have ?
As far as the cost goes !!! Advertising on buses generates income, businesses are always looking to improve their image with PR, so sponsorship could play a part.
And then theres the thorny issue of the rich tax..:grin: im sure a 1% increase would suffice :thumbup:
So... what am i missing here? coz it seems to me to be a no brainer to me dunno
A lot of the school run traffic would be alleviated if children were able to walk to school. I know that it's not always possible due to a multitude of very good reasons, but one very bad reason is just pure laziness.
My daughter is fortunate that she only has to walk about 400 yards to get to school, whereas my son has to walk a mile. Some days he walks, some days he cycles, but he is fortunate enough to be able to do so and we fully encourage him to get the exercise. Last year we drove to the school three times, just three, and two of them were parents evenings.
In stark contrast, we have a neighbour that drives her children to the same school as my daughter (400 Yards!) and we know the vast majority of the parents we personally know drive there children far less than the distance our boy walks.
Make them walk, make them exercise, encourage a healthy lifestyle, alleviate strain on the NHS. Seems a no brainer.
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A lot of the school run traffic would be alleviated if children were able to walk to school. I know that it's not always possible due to a multitude of very good reasons, but one very bad reason is just pure laziness.
My daughter is fortunate that she only has to walk about 400 yards to get to school, whereas my son has to walk a mile. Some days he walks, some days he cycles, but he is fortunate enough to be able to do so and we fully encourage him to get the exercise. Last year we drove to the school three times, just three, and two of them were parents evenings.
In stark contrast, we have a neighbour that drives her children to the same school as my daughter (400 Yards!) and we know the vast majority of the parents we personally know drive there children far less than the distance our boy walks.
Make them walk, make them exercise, encourage a healthy lifestyle, alleviate strain on the NHS. Seems a no brainer.

How can people possibly be encouraged to get their kids to walk or cycle to school when they remember 3shags Prescott driving less than that distance to the Labour Party conference in a gas guzzler only a few years ago.
Do schools still have bike sheds these days?
I can remember some very interesting times behind the ones at the school I went to :grin:
I agree with getting the kids to walk and cycle to school where its possible, but i would`nt have my child cycle for the reason i was initially making, because the sheer weight of traffic on the roads make cycling very dangerous.
My child walks to school (about 1.5 miles), fortunately she doesn`t have to cross any busy roads, but that`s not the case for a lot of school children who may have a lot further to walk or encounter busy main roads.
I`d be less inclined to let my child walk to school if their were busy roads to cross.
As i said before, i agree with getting the kids to walk and cycle, but until we get over this school run culture that most parents seem to have adopted then the roads wont get any less busy! so it seems to have become a perpetual cycle......
"No you cant walk or cycle to school as the roads are to dangerous, we`ll take the car"
And its "taking the car" that is making the roads dangerous for school children in the first place...a vicious circle.
Safety of the kids was one of my original points in favour of school buses, and i think the only way to make the roads safer and less busy is to adopt a school bus programme, and maybe then the kids will have the choice of walking, cycling or take the school bus as the roads will be safe for them to do so.
We could combine 2 good ideas. School buses for all children beyond 2 miles (less if the roads have no footpaths for instnace) but then the busses drop them at the 2 mile limit (closer if no paths etc) and they walk the rest of the way.
I walked 3 miles (I could have taken a public bus but I preferred to spoend my busfare on sweets. biggrin) and crossed 4 or 5 main roads. After the age pf 13 I wouldn't be driving any child any distance so long as there was a bus. Some 11-12 years old kids are really small and may have grown up away from traffic so they would need time to get used to busy roads.
My son walked about 3/4 of a mile, usually alone as I have a f/t job, to junior school - through the village. It was safer to walk the 1.5 miles to senior school after he got thrown off the bus by some older kids. And I mean THROWN.
Dino, As I said before 'I know that it's not always possible due to a multitude of very good reasons', but it's not impossible is it. Your child walks to school, so that's one less school run car on the roads. Both my children make their own way there and back, and because they are seperate schools that's another two school run journeys that don't happen.
There is no simple one-stop shop to solve national issues such as this and a variety of measures would need to be employed. Busses would provide part of the answer, however there is always the question of who should fund them.
I bet a pound to a penny some parents would still drive their kids to the bus stop banghead
We have school busses where i live but they are awful vehicles and i wouldn't want my children to travel on them. Most schools here are far away from where children live so they have to go by car, public transport isn't available for all places and the roads arn't safe for cycling plus there isn't anywhere safe to keep bikes at school ... so car is the best option.
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We have school busses where i live but they are awful vehicles and i wouldn't want my children to travel on them. Most schools here are far away from where children live so they have to go by car, public transport isn't available for all places and the roads arn't safe for cycling plus there isn't anywhere safe to keep bikes at school ... so car is the best option.

Ok ok,...not for the first time yet another one of my brilliant life changing visionary ideas is blown right out the water confused??:
Back to the drawing board :uhoh:
Ang on...instead of yellow school buses lets give em a yellow school pogo sticks instead! :thumbup:
.....maybe not eh :undecided:
I`ll get me coat bolt
wink lol :lol:
It is "rare" in suburban Britain for a child not to be able to get to school on public transport.
We have a child at High School which is around seven miles away and we are not on a school bus route this means that two buses are needed, one into town to the bus station and another to drop off outside the school. It is about a 45 - 55 minute journey involving two buses or we could do it half an hour in the car - we choose the buses for all the reasons made by the OP.
Keep village schools open and children would not have to travel so far to school
I agree with your sentiment blue, however I would offer the opinion that the vast majority of school run traffic is completely unrelated to village schools.
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I agree with your sentiment blue, however I would offer the opinion that the vast majority of school run traffic is completely unrelated to village schools.

Maybe the 'vast' majority Trev but, when I lived in the UK in a small village with a primary school, there were a surprising number of parents doing the 'school run' and parking in the zig-zags outside the school gates to the extent that there were child injuries - wholly unacceptable.
sitting here thinking of the good it does for the motor industry dunno
Surely there are still school buses around? I'm not that old and I travelled to school by bus when I was a child. Hang on... That was probably 15-20 years ago, so perhaps I'm more out of date than I thought!! redface
Well, in any case, it worked very well, so I entirely agree that school buses are a good idea.
My daughter lives 3.5 miles from her school....
She will get a lift to school from her Mom as she passes there on her way to work but she has to walk home...
And if her Mom has to be in work early then she has to walk there as well....
I recall that there used to be a 'walking' bus in the village where I last lived.
There would be a set timed route supervised by parents and children would 'join' the bus, walking to school, as it wound its way round to the school gates.
Nothing healthier than kids getting fresh air and some exercise before they start their lessons for the day.
On a side issue. When kids are collected from Infants/Junior school - why do the parents always (as far as I can see) choose to carry the child's book-bag/lunch-box? Do the kids develop paralysis of the arms as they leave the school? Youngsters have 10x the energy of any given adult - let them carry their own bags.
I helped out at a school trip once, a lad turned up - no disability identified to the adults in charge - and his Mum hauled 3 bags of stuff out of the car and proposed to carry them all onto the bus for him. This was for a 4 day stay 10 miles away. The head stopped her and asked who was going to carry the bags at the other end. The mother obviously expected one of us to porter for her darling boy. She was told very pointedly that there were 30 kids going and everyone was going to carry their own bags. The phrase "If he can't carry it, he can't take it" was used. They rearranged his stuff into 1 bag and he dragged that with much sighing onto the bus. Of course he managed - all the others had one or two bags and dealt with it. I can only imagine how that unfortunate child might have turned out thanks to his ridiculously doting and servile mother.