I thought we already had a thread for this.. but must be quite old now (or was removed).
So, the 'orrible little weasel of a man is back under the spotlight on Friday in the Iraq Enquiry.
His last performance seemed to confirm that this wretched shifty slippery little toad is everything that people accuse him of - including Lord Goldsmith who has now apparently fingered him good and proper like this time round!
What a pity the Chairman can't wire the chair up to extract the truth electronically - after which he can be dispatched to his better place on the devil's right hand on prime time TV by the flick of a switch...
Maybe to add effect, Lord Sugar could be drafted in to point the finger and say ....
"You're fired"
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Truely people don't realise what a mess he made of the coutry and the legacy he left behind and also that he's still riding the crest of the wave witha 12 million pound a year income. A truely selfish individual.
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Truely people don't realise what a mess he made of the coutry and the legacy he left behind and also that he's still riding the crest of the wave witha 12 million pound a year income. A truely selfish individual.
A truely selfish individual who should be dragged to the hague with that heartless lier of a critter bush. they are war criminals just like Hitler was
Sex God
A damned good job that, that nice Mr Cameron and the rest of the tory party didn't agree with him and vote in favour of an invasion isn't it
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
A damned good job that, that nice Mr Cameron and the rest of the tory party didn't agree with him and vote in favour of an invasion isn't it
If we were kind, we could say, they, and us, did not have the full picture, as Mr Blair told us all porkies!
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
A damned good job that, that nice Mr Cameron and the rest of the tory party didn't agree with him and vote in favour of an invasion isn't it
If we were kind, we could say, they, and us, did not have the full picture, as Mr Blair told us all porkies!
And our Tone of course is of the opinion that he was misinformed....In reality it took many more than just one person to create the mess that Iraq,Afghanistan and the rest of the middle east is in, it seems more than a little dishonest to hold one man responsible
Sex God
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
A damned good job that, that nice Mr Cameron and the rest of the tory party didn't agree with him and vote in favour of an invasion isn't it
If we were kind, we could say, they, and us, did not have the full picture, as Mr Blair told us all porkies!
And our Tone of course is of the opinion that he was misinformed....In reality it took many more than just one person to create the mess that Iraq,Afghanistan and the rest of the middle east is in, it seems more than a little dishonest to hold one man responsible
Ahh, the fall guy, that's the modern world we live in, he was at the helm
Sex God
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Let us not forget it was cross party supported and very few MPs of any colour chose to kick up any sort of fuss. Yet I was subjected to a great deal of abuse at the time for failing to join in with general gung ho up and at em war spirit. And I didnt know anything the MPs didnt.
That does not change the fact the Blair lied to us and the house
Sex God
Quote by Ben_welshminx
My point is I wasnt convinced so why were they?
Or is it just a case of scapegoating?
We can not all be as perceptive as your self
and it would be unfair for you to imagine or presume we could be :thumbup: Sex God
Quote by Ben_welshminx
But Blue they are our appointed representatives and I expect them to be able to think both independently and critically or resign.
Even if we except this Ben, he was at the helm! That is where the buck stops in my view
I too was uncomfortable with the whole Iraq #2 thing. My politics at the time (as now perhaps) was more centre right leaning and I might have been expected to toe the Parliamentary line and support the illegal invasion but I couldn't do it.
There were many Parliamentarians at the time I recall whose dissent I favoured - people whose views I would not normally sit comfortably with - people like Robin Cook who I detested, Clare Short, Wedgy Benn and others but my thoughts on these people altered considerably when they stood up against the bully Bliar. Nor did I have any truck with those who tried to make some sort of comparison with the Falklands conflict; I fully supported that campaign and still do to this day.
It's a sad reflection on our times and the integrity of the calibre of our representatives but when "Dubbya" Bush was seeking a second term the invasion was still in full swing. I happened to be in the Sates at the time of the election on the Eastern Sea Board (Mas) - Bush's home territory. Talking to a number of Americans as I did at the time, it was clear that they were uncomfortable about it too but I was told in no uncertain terms that the Americans always support their President in times of such conflict and not to have dome so would have sent incorrect messages out to the world about the will of the American people. And so it was that Bush was re-elected. Not because he was doing the right thing, but that tradition deemed it necessary.
The Parliamentary fog created a similar atmosphere in Westminster. Tradition has it that the Opposition supports the actions of the Government of the day and so the sheep were led by donkeys in to the "Aye" lobbies en masse and the rest, they say, is history.
There were many Parliamentarians at the time I recall whose dissent I favoured - people whose views I would not normally sit comfortably with - people like Robin Cook who I detested, Clare Short, Wedgy Benn and others but my thoughts on these people altered considerably when they stood up against the bully Bliar. Nor did I have any truck with those who tried to make some sort of comparison with the Falklands conflict; I fully supported that campaign and still do to this day.
It's a sad reflection on our times and the integrity of the calibre of our representatives but when "Dubbya" Bush was seeking a second term the invasion was still in full swing. I happened to be in the Sates at the time of the election on the Eastern Sea Board (Mas) - Bush's home territory. Talking to a number of Americans as I did at the time, it was clear that they were uncomfortable about it too but I was told in no uncertain terms that the Americans always support their President in times of such conflict and not to have dome so would have sent incorrect messages out to the world about the will of the American people. And so it was that Bush was re-elected. Not because he was doing the right thing, but that tradition deemed it necessary.
The Parliamentary fog created a similar atmosphere in Westminster. Tradition has it that the Opposition supports the actions of the Government of the day and so the sheep were led by donkeys in to the "Aye" lobbies en masse and the rest, they say, is history.
Sex God
Quote by Ben_welshminx
Yes but there is a line between the buck stopping and 700 grown ups shouting "but a big boy did it and ran away sir". Methinks they are all doing the latter. I for one dont want the buggers to get away with it.
It is irrelevant to me, what the baying crowd were shouting, there was only one man at the helm, and his voice was shouting the loudest, Manley lies as it turns out, he must face the music.
Sex God
Quote by Ben_welshminx
I believe they should all face the music. The music should be along the lines of "you failed to do your job properly and are therefore not fit to govern".
If I hum it, you play it
Dont beleive there are any grounds for that Ben
Just give them time and they'll either find the weapons of mass destruction and finally feel vindicated or all the natural resources there will be sucked dry by the declining power that is the US that the UK currently curtails to! Change to the world hierarchy is coming!!
In the meantime as the invasion took place due to "Saddam's failure to take a final opportunity to disarm itself of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons that US and British officials called an immediate and intolerable threat to world peace." as Blair put it and to date none have been found, then obviously some one was telling porkies, distorting facts for their own benefit. The moral high ground for the invasion has gone, so mankind being mankind needs to place the blame somewhere and unburden its guilt. Hence the inquest, Blair was PM at the time, start with him and work your way down till the shit sticks!
As an aside - Inquests also keep a lot of people in work and seem to be a relatively modern concept (can't remember any inquests being held after 200 years or so of Crusades) soon we'll have inquests into the inquest?!
In the meantime as the invasion took place due to "Saddam's failure to take a final opportunity to disarm itself of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons that US and British officials called an immediate and intolerable threat to world peace." as Blair put it and to date none have been found, then obviously some one was telling porkies, distorting facts for their own benefit. The moral high ground for the invasion has gone, so mankind being mankind needs to place the blame somewhere and unburden its guilt. Hence the inquest, Blair was PM at the time, start with him and work your way down till the shit sticks!
As an aside - Inquests also keep a lot of people in work and seem to be a relatively modern concept (can't remember any inquests being held after 200 years or so of Crusades) soon we'll have inquests into the inquest?!
Sex God
Quote by Bluefish2009
My point is I wasnt convinced so why were they?
Or is it just a case of scapegoating?
We can not all be as perceptive as your self
and it would be unfair for you to imagine or presume we could be :thumbup:Many in the media were also unconvinced...had our M.P.'s taken the time to read a newspaper or watch the news they may have been convinced that an invasion or Iraq wasn't a good idea...the top and bottom of it is that our parliament is so dull that the only answer to the bombings and plane crashes they could come up with was an invasion....they didn't care of which country just somewhere,anyone with half a mind could have told you that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or 7/7 but no-one was interested,the fact that Saddam was the most likely candidate as an ally against Al Qaeda was/is irrelevant, good ole G.W. wanted to do what daddy didn't/couldn't so we just we just padded along in his wake like any good poodle would
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My point is I wasnt convinced so why were they?
Or is it just a case of scapegoating?
We can not all be as perceptive as your self
and it would be unfair for you to imagine or presume we could be :thumbup:Many in the media were also unconvinced...had our M.P.'s taken the time to read a newspaper or watch the news they may have been convinced that an invasion or Iraq wasn't a good idea...the top and bottom of it is that our parliament is so dull that the only answer to the bombings and plane crashes they could come up with was an invasion....they didn't care of which country just somewhere,anyone with half a mind could have told you that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or 7/7 but no-one was interested,the fact that Saddam was the most likely candidate as an ally against Al Qaeda was/is irrelevant, good ole G.W. wanted to do what daddy didn't/couldn't so we just we just padded along in his wake like any good poodle would
But not a French one in sight :wink:
