But in this situation, and this is what we are talking about, it wasn't ringing when viewed and when they bought the house. It was months later.
Airports (not new heliports) and main roads are exempt from noise nuisance.
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But in this situation, and this is what we are talking about, it wasn't ringing when viewed and when they bought the house. It was months later.
Airports (not new heliports) and main roads are exempt from noise nuisance.
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Law not so black and white then.
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But in this situation, and this is what we are talking about, it wasn't ringing when viewed and when they bought the house. It was months later.
Airports (not new heliports) and main roads are exempt from noise nuisance.
Dave_Notts
Law not so black and white then.
Errr yes. Exempt means not covered by this particular piece of legislation. Is that not black and white.
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But in this situation, and this is what we are talking about, it wasn't ringing when viewed and when they bought the house. It was months later.
Airports (not new heliports) and main roads are exempt from noise nuisance.
Dave_Notts
Law not so black and white then.
Errr yes. Exempt means not covered by this particular piece of legislation. Is that not black and white.
Dave_Notts
It means, to me, a two tear law, those that must abide by it, and those that do not have too
For different reasons. There may already be a law that the others have to abide by. That is why the law has exemptions either for people or situations.
However, in this situation it is black and white (or so it seems) as no-one has appealed the notice. Looks like those that complained was right in law. However, morally it could be debated........yet throw the intimidation of the other villagers into the equation and the village idyll goes straight out of the window. Two faced christian villagers IMO.
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However, in this situation it is black and white (or so it seems) as no-one has appealed the notice. Looks like those that complained was right in law. However, morally it could be debated........yet throw the intimidation of the other villagers into the equation and the village idyll goes straight out of the window. Two faced christian villagers IMO.
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For different reasons. There may already be a law that the others have to abide by. That is why the law has exemptions either for people or situations.
However, in this situation it is black and white (or so it seems) as no-one has appealed the notice. Looks like those that complained was right in law. However, morally it could be debated........yet throw the intimidation of the other villagers into the equation and the village idyll goes straight out of the window. Two faced christian villagers IMO.
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Not all villagers are Christians
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For different reasons. There may already be a law that the others have to abide by. That is why the law has exemptions either for people or situations.
However, in this situation it is black and white (or so it seems) as no-one has appealed the notice. Looks like those that complained was right in law. However, morally it could be debated........yet throw the intimidation of the other villagers into the equation and the village idyll goes straight out of the window. Two faced christian villagers IMO.
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Not all villagers are Christians
:thumbup: Especially this lot, who bullied this couple into withdrawing their complaint
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:thumbup: Especially this lot, who bullied this couple into withdrawing their complaint
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and in my mind rightly so.
these bells were here and ringing before this couple moved there, and they will be ringing long after they have gone. they could always move if they do not like the church bells.
moving into a nice little village and upsetting the apple cart straight away is bound to get other villagers backs up. not a great start is it?
i think the damage for this couple has already been done and they are now just better off moving, as living in a small village where peeple dont like you will not be an easy thing for this couple to do. plus it is now obviously bothering them as they have tried to withdraw the complaint. to little to late possibly.
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i think the damage for this couple has already been done and they are now just better off moving, as living in a small village where peeple dont like you will not be an easy thing for this couple to do. plus it is now obviously bothering them as they have tried to withdraw the complaint. to little to late possibly.
It's a shame but I have to agree with the above sentiment.
My other half and I came perilously close to purchasing a property just outside of Fayence (Sth of France) a few years ago but my man had a feeling that something wasn't quite right with the local agents reasons as to why the property had been on the market for 5 years. Looked ok, had all the boxes ticked for us, mountain views, in the forest, lake out front, seemed like bliss. So, we went back a day later and attempted to speak to some of the locals but as soon as we mentioned the property in question they either quite literally shut the door on us or became quite hostile towards us.
Eventually we went and visited the local mayor, took him some fresh pastries and a bottle of local quality wine, it turned out that the owner of the property who was Belgium born had not sought the permission of the Mayor when cutting down one tree from the front of the property and which was apparently restricting a view of the lake and that was it, from that day the whole village went against the Belgium owner. In the end we managed to find the details of the owner and contacted him at his home in Belgium, he told us that once he'd fell out with the mayor the entire village turned against him, he couldn't fuel his car, his mail was left on the porch in all the elements, when the septic tank needed emptying he had to contract out the work to a company from out of the area and none of the local shop owners would serve them any of their goods and none of the neighbours would speak to them. All this from a single tree being cut down.
Upsetting a neighbour, that's easy to do, upsetting a community is a little more difficult but by eck when you do it's probably time to move on.
Last time we checked, maybe a year ago and some 6 or 7 years after we'd been to look at the place the residence is still for sale. Mad!
Maybe the bell ringing community would think differently if the couple decided to sell their property to travellers though *smiling*
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these bells were here and ringing before this couple moved there,
So? Irrelevant within nuisance.
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and they will be ringing long after they have gone.
Nope, they have stopped. Thats the whole point of the story. An abatement notice stands, and it doesn't matter if the original complainants move. It will be written to abate noise in general..........and not to abate noise that upsets Mr & Mrs Lost The Sense Of Humour
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plus it is now obviously bothering them as they have tried to withdraw the complaint. to little to late possibly.
I think you missed not out of this.......well thats how I read it so will answer it as if it was in. If it was supposed to be absent.........just ignore this bit Star
Has it stopped bothering them? Well it should, as the chimes have stopped ringing because of the notice. If they started up again then I suspect it would bother them, but would they actually complain in fear of reprisals?
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Noise is a very funny thing. It bothers people a lot. Sleep disturbance, loss of amenity of your home, psychosocial hazards, etc
Yet when I organise large events, a cash bung for a free long weekend at a 5* spa hotel or VIP tickets to the actual event results in no complaints or abatement notices.
In my own experience, complaints come about by the emitter not having the common sense to appreciate the wants and needs of those that can be affected by the noise emitted.
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amazing though how a couple can move into a village that has bells ringing for years, and cause utter mayhem. the bells may have stopped ringing ( for now ) but this couple seem to me to be trouble and if i lived in that village running the local shop, i would not sell them a loaf of bread. i am also sure that the local pub would be a no go area as well.
victor meldrew springs to mind here. some peeple will moan about anything.
victor meldrew springs to mind here. some peeple will moan about anything.
Not bells as the story says. It is the chimes that go off every 15 minutes, 4 times every hour, 24 hours a day.
As some have said, this has been a tradition for centuries. But as the church said, they can't change the computer programme.
Now read the second paragraph again and see what is wrong with those statements
Advocating the bullying of this poor couple who just want to sleep at night in their own home, isn't that just wrong?
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As some have said, this has been a tradition for centuries. But as the church said, they can't change the computer programme.
Now read the second paragraph again and see what is wrong with those statements
Advocating the bullying of this poor couple who just want to sleep at night in their own home, isn't that just wrong?
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Not bells as the story says. It is the chimes that go off every 15 minutes, 4 times every hour, 24 hours a day.
As some have said, this has been a tradition for centuries. But as the church said, they can't change the computer programme.
Now read the second paragraph again and see what is wrong with those statements
Advocating the bullying of this poor couple who just want to sleep at night in their own home, isn't that just wrong?
Dave_Notts
so this couple went to purchase a house and veiwed it in less than 15 mins and in those 14 or less mins it just happened to be the 14 mins in between the bells ringing
WOW im impressed anyone is this dumb add the computer controlled bells centuries ago and we got two WOW'S the fact you cant change the computer programme and now i just think we have a BULLSHIT alert
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Not bells as the story says. It is the chimes that go off every 15 minutes, 4 times every hour, 24 hours a day.
As some have said, this has been a tradition for centuries.
well mr notts i wonder what would happen if a couple viewed a house at the top end of Victoria street when this chiming stopped through maintenance work a couple of years ago, yes i know highly unlikely but these things happen dont they :bounce: . they buy the house and on moving in suddenly look up aghast at this,,,,,,
i wonder if the courts would send a notice telling whoever to stop these from chiming every 15 minutes, 4 times every hour, 24 hours a day. perish the thought eh? :doh:
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For different reasons. There may already be a law that the others have to abide by. That is why the law has exemptions either for people or situations.
However, in this situation it is black and white (or so it seems) as no-one has appealed the notice. Looks like those that complained was right in law. However, morally it could be debated........yet throw the intimidation of the other villagers into the equation and the village idyll goes straight out of the window. Two faced christian villagers IMO.
Dave_Notts
Not all villagers are Christians
:thumbup: Especially this lot, who bullied this couple into withdrawing their complaint
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Do we know this as fact, or did they perhaps see the error of there ways?
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Do we know this as fact, or did they perhaps see the error of there ways?
I don't know Blue. I am just going off the link you provided on the first post of this thread that stated they had received malicious and threatening mail. If I received malicious and threatening mail, I wouldn't think it was a warm welcome to the neighbourhood..........unless in North Wales and then the cottage burns to ash around your ears, but at least warm
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