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BNP supporters were you proud of Griffin's performance on QT?

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You must have Combat 18 mixed up with the BNP rolleyes

Nope

Combat 18 is the security wing of the BNP.
If you read the following about Combat 18 its higly unlikely that they are the security wing of the BNP a few of their members have been expelled from the BNP for his violent threats. Comabt 18 isnt just in this country but places such as Britain, Belgium, Russia, USA and Germany.
I am very tempted to vote BNP next time around and why because of immigration issues and EU workers.
I have stated before why do I have to wait 12 years to get a council house when anyone claiming asylum goes straight to the top of the waiting list. Once my house is sold I won’t end up without a penny from the sale so myself and my 2 children - 1 who is disabled will have to go into bed and breakfast accommodation until the council can find us somewhere to live.
And why did a Polish lady get the part time job I went for at Barclays Bank even though we have the same qualifications and I actually speak English because they had to fill their quote for ethical’s, if I tried to claim I was discriminated against because I had a disabled son and that is the reason I didn’t get the job I would be laughed at but if the lady from Poland hadn’t got the job she would have claimed discrimination because she was Polish and she would have won the case.
I don’t see why I now have to wait a week for a doctor’s appointment, it used to be next day appointments because as the receptionist said they just can’t cope with the people from other EU countries registering.
I might not agree with some of the BNP views on other issues, but looking at some of the other sites like Conservatives and Labour I don’t agree with half of theirs as well.
I have one or two friends who feel the same way, one happens to be Indian, born in this country speaks perfect English and is probably one of the nicest people I know. She wears a head dress as it’s the custom of her family. However she feels that it isn’t the British people who have a problem with what she wears and the way she leads her life, but the EU workers and Immigrants.
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I am very tempted to vote BNP next time around and why because of immigration issues and EU workers.
I have stated before why do I have to wait 12 years to get a council house when anyone claiming asylum goes straight to the top of the waiting list. Once my house is sold I won’t end up without a penny from the sale so myself and my 2 children - 1 who is disabled will have to go into bed and breakfast accommodation until the council can find us somewhere to live.
And why did a Polish lady get the part time job I went for at Barclays Bank even though we have the same qualifications and I actually speak English because they had to fill their quote for ethical’s, if I tried to claim I was discriminated against because I had a disabled son and that is the reason I didn’t get the job I would be laughed at but if the lady from Poland hadn’t got the job she would have claimed discrimination because she was Polish and she would have won the case.
I don’t see why I now have to wait a week for a doctor’s appointment, it used to be next day appointments because as the receptionist said they just can’t cope with the people from other EU countries registering.
I might not agree with some of the BNP views on other issues, but looking at some of the other sites like Conservatives and Labour I don’t agree with half of theirs as well.
I have one or two friends who feel the same way, one happens to be Indian, born in this country speaks perfect English and is probably one of the nicest people I know. She wears a head dress as it’s the custom of her family. However she feels that it isn’t the British people who have a problem with what she wears and the way she leads her life, but the EU workers and Immigrants.

You may well have answered your own question
Stag I doff my comedians hat in your general direction. duel
I somehow doubt that there are "quotas" for employing EU workers per-se anywhere in the UK or the Union.
Maybe you just didn't get the job at Bankleys Bark because of an attitudinal problem wink
I know I harp on about France a little, but here - in the epicentre of the EU - it is actually illegal to ask people to state their ethnicity, sexuality or religious beliefs, or to keep records on such. These issues are even absent on official census forms too.
If you are born in France, you are French - period. If the State grants you French Citizenship, you are French - period. There is no need for the State to delve beyond that. You don't even need a passport to make your way round the EU or the French Territories. Your French ID card sees to that - even if visiting the UK.
But that changes nothing in reality; French protectionism in employment is legendary and always manages to shine through :wink:
I wonder how they might achieve that dunno
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Can you tell me Browning....if you do not mind, why you are a member and what makes you vote for them? Is there anything in particulars they say that appeals to you, or is it all their policies.

The reason I voted for the bnp is probably the same reason most people vote for them, I am bloody fed up with the main parties!! evil
I thought nick griffin was poor on question time, and I, along with alot of bnp supporters don't want him as leader. I would like to see the bnp move away from thier racist roots and concentrate on matters that matter to ALL british people.
In life, we pick a party that we think best suits us, it does not mean you will agree with EVERYTHING the party stands for.
From the bnp website;
Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally , I agree with that.
Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British,
I agree with that.

Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently
DO NOT agree with that.
Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.
Agree with that.
- Introduce automatic prison sentences for all repeat offenders;
- Put police back on the streets and remove their current political correctness shackles;
- Allow victims of crime full freedom to defend themselves and their property
Agree with all of that.
All from the bnp website, there is also a load of stuff on there I DON'T agree with.
Thanks for courage and honesty Browning :thumbup:
The things where we in green so I wont comment on those. The one's in red I take issue which I'll dicuss you. The illegal immgrants came here for a better life (via work) abeit against the law. They do deport foreign national who break the law. This is done on the immediate release from prison. I've known at least three British nationals who have been deported from America (for drug related offences). They do same here!
As for asylum seekers some have come directly into this country. Or believe that this is the safest. This is the BNP judging a book by its cover. By means saying "bogus" asylum seekers.
Yes the bobbies are back on the beat. Sometimes accompanied by PCSO (plastic cops).
So Al....where have the vanished to do you reckon?
Gawd kenty, what planet was I on :doh:
I was talking in the context that people sneaking into the country without using the offical channels.
Also these are deemed as illegal immigrants;

Overstaying beyond the expiry of their visa without a renewal or extension.
People trafficking
Taking up employment or training on a vistors visa
Failing to return after a divorce (spousal visa)
Failing to return on completion of studies.
Exiting the terminal building on a transit visa
Breaching the terms of the visa.

I think they should be deported. In the case of 2. The perpertrators should be jailed and deported (if appropiate).
Kenty those forty thousand obviously since they are lost in the systyem, haven't been caught.
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Gawd kenty, what planet was I on :doh:
I was talking in the context that people sneaking into the country without using the offical channels.
Also these are deemed as illegal immigrants;

Overstaying beyond the expiry of their visa without a renewal or extension.
People trafficking
Taking up employment or training on a vistors visa
Failing to return after a divorce (spousal visa)
Failing to return on completion of studies.
Exiting the terminal building on a transit visa
Breaching the terms of the visa.

I think they should be deported. In the case of 2. The perpertrators should be jailed and deported (if appropiate).
Kenty those forty thousand obviously since they are lost in the systyem, haven't been caught.

I wonder where they are along with gawd knows how many others Ilegally ( for Benny that one wink ).
How are they managing for money? Or food?
I cannot be bothered to Google it, but how many are in the " system " awaiting approval or not?
Still at least they are where they wanted to be I suppose, though God only knows why.
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I agree with all you've said here,so
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The part I highlighted - my understanding is that the profits and properties these people have acquired using the benefits of living in a first world country would be confiscated before their repatriation. The generous settlement would be a percentage of that, and the rest would go back to the public purse so that we can have the health service we and our parents worked and paid for. Then we can pay for fat people to get thin and we won't keep seeing heart-rending charity adverts on TV for Great Ormond St, Childline etc.

mad Ridickulas Gri££in echolalia. You comments (naively said) highlighted in red is nonsensical. I took massive umbrage to you comment.
How about the taxes from wage that some "these" people have into the system for 30 -50 years? Oh you're thinking (correct me if I'm wrong) is that saying they came to UK looking a meal ticket and the purpose is milk the system. Was you around in 50s and 60s? How many came over from the Indian sub-continent, West Indies and West Africa and invited on false prentenses. Told misleading things like how the quality of their lives would imporve. "Britain needs you fill the labour shortage" and "Britian welcomes you with open arms". The truth is they faced a hostile welcome, racial abuse and attacks, bad housing (landlords didn't want to rent out to the immgrants and they didn't meet the residency criteria to apply for council housing). Where seven to ten people were cramped into one room. These slums resulted some of children having poor health. On the work front most had to the jobs the white British didn't want to do, which they gladly took. Some of these hearty people worked so hard that they health conditions and disabilities. However, plenty have many have own their own homes and have flourising businesses. The point is that a significant number have been here so long that they have children and grandchildren born here. And made Britain their home and became Angliacised.
On to your second point. The issue of a "generous" repatriation package is patronising. Aren't "these people" (as you put it) capiable of funding their "return to their homelands"? Voluntary? yeah! what happens if they decline to take a goverment like that up on their offer? Apathied I bet! "would be confiscated before their repatriation". That's theft! and what's generous about "a percentage of that"?
"we can have the health service we and our parents worked and paid for" So did the people who came from the Commonwealth in the 50s and 60s. And many later who came in the 70s and 80s. Think how much taxes (not just Income Tax) has been collected from "these people".
Umm, compassion fatigue eh SlurpySarah? Your "hero" won't quell that. Great Ormaond Street is for children with rare life treating medical conditions. For which the specialist equipment(which is very costly) and the need the very best specialist consultants the can find. Would you object if it was a non-white foreign national if that would save the lives and improve the health of chronically sick children?
Childline? You mean 0800 1111? yeah! Apart from child psychologists and accidents. It's more a social services issue (local authourity) rather than a NHS one. Childline is an anonymous hotline for children who have been abused, bullied having problems at home or school.
Even thought I (clearly) disagree with it. You're entitled to your views. If you're argue them make sure you know what talking about. There is racist motive behind it. The word "voluntary" is mandatory in disguise. It's only "reworded" for legal reasons.
Where seven to ten people were cramped into one room. /quote]
This is happening to British families, due to lack of council housig and housing being repossed you end up living in a bed & breakfast for months on end with your kids - something I will have to face in the near future.
So a few SH members have voted BNP in the past, well you can add my name to that list, I did however have a few questions to ask them before they got my vote. As a bit of a bad lad back in the 1980's I knew a lot of other football hooligans who supported the NF or the newly formed BNP, the only difference between the two back then was that the Chairman (a man from Hove caller Tyndall) was in total control of the BNP while the NF had a national directorate. John Tyndall had created the BNP after being told when he was NF chairman that he was not allowed to expell a guy called Martin Webster for being gay. Webster was also on their directorate and in a rage Tyndall resigned from the NF and started his own party. That ladies and gentlemen is why we have a BNP here in Britain.
So armed with prior knowlege I emailed them a few questions.
Do they still have a problem with gay people? The answer was no, but they didn't want chidren as young as five learning about sex including gay.
Has your old policy of enforced repatriation really been abandoned for good? And is there oposition to this among the rank and file. The answer was, yes that policy was dropped over ten years ago and those who had a real problem with that have been removedfrom the party.
Is the BNP all about the love of our own or the hatred of others? The answer was that their is no longer any place for hatred in the BNP.
Are there still Nazis and Hitler worshipers in the BNP and have you stopped the conspiracy theories about the Jews? The answer was, we have zero tolerance of Nazis and anyone espousing such rubish is expelled immediately, we have nothing against Jewish people take for example our Jewish councillor in Epping Forest.
There are obviously issues that concern me, but I felt at the time they were the best of a bad bunch. I don't like Griffin, that is personal, he still had his silly moustache when I met him, I thought his performance on QT was weak but couldn't help feeling sorry for him.
I guess I shall now be subjected to all kinds of abusive messages, the world we live in!!
Brighton.....why would we you recieve " abusive messages "?
You openly stated you voted for them, as have a couple of others on here. Fair play to you.
We are all entitled to vote for a " legal " party, whether it be the Tories or the BNP,which are both legal parties.
Until such time they cease to be that, I do not know why anyone would send you anything.
I have not voted for them, but been tempted as some of their policies seem good. But....there are many that do not sit well at all with me.
On that basis I shall continue to vote Blue next time around.
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Brighton.....why would we you recieve " abusive messages "?
You openly stated you voted for them, as have a couple of others on here. Fair play to you.
We are all entitled to vote for a " legal " party, whether it be the Tories or the BNP,which are both legal parties.
Until such time they cease to be that, I do not know why anyone would send you anything.
I have not voted for them, but been tempted as some of their policies seem good. But....there are many that do not sit well at all with me.
On that basis I shall continue to vote Blue next time around.

I haven't voted Tory since they got rid of The Maggie, I used to be a real proud Tory, even picking up Tory pensioners and taking them to the polling station in my car. The best of em all now us a chap called Dr Sean Gabb, unfortunately he is too honest and this has seen him margianalised.
Brighton is full of red loonies, I have seen other people suffer abuse here for voicing their beliefs. Still this is Swinging Heaven and one would expect everyone here to have more class than to get personal. Time will tell.
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Brighton.....why would we you recieve " abusive messages "?
You openly stated you voted for them, as have a couple of others on here. Fair play to you.
We are all entitled to vote for a " legal " party, whether it be the Tories or the BNP,which are both legal parties.
Until such time they cease to be that, I do not know why anyone would send you anything.
I have not voted for them, but been tempted as some of their policies seem good. But....there are many that do not sit well at all with me.
On that basis I shall continue to vote Blue next time around.

I haven't voted Tory since they got rid of The Maggie, I used to be a real proud Tory, even picking up Tory pensioners and taking them to the polling station in my car. The best of em all now us a chap called Dr Sean Gabb, unfortunately he is too honest and this has seen him margianalised.
Brighton is full of red loonies, I have seen other people suffer abuse here for voicing their beliefs. Still this is Swinging Heaven and one would expect everyone here to have more class than to get personal. Time will tell.
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So a few SH members have voted BNP in the past.... (cut down to save space in edit)

Excellent post and well researched. Of course, many people won't believe these answers until they appear in the Sunday Sport or as a topic on Coronation Street. Although i'm not a big fan of Griffin as a person, I do find his statements refreshing in that he doesn't waffle and faff around the questions - he gives straight answers.
What I find extremely interesting is that on this forum in the 3 threads concerning Griffin and the BNP there are (approximately) 7 forumites who show support of the BNP and about 20 who appear to be against. Support for the BNP seems to be greater than a third of those who've commented on this subject.
People are very serious in their desire for radical change in this country - to those who do nothing but insult and snipe at BNP supporters I say "look to your own parties for answers, and when they have none - take a good look at the BNP website and ask yourselves why so many feel it's so important".
@ Sarah, I wasn't kidding when I wrote about emailing with those questions, funny thing is that ever since I sent that email I have found myself receiving their official newsletter / ezine or whatever it is called. Yesterday featured a video of Griffin using utube, he was saying that since the Question Time fiasco the BNP have had over 250,000 new enquiries. Now that sounds a lot for a party that was recently boasting just 12,000 members, but the official viewing figures for that show were a staggering 8,000,000. Using my somewhat simple arithmatic skills I think that represents 1 in 32? Not a huge stretch of the imagination.
Judging by those figures it is not impossible to predict BNP members of parliament being elected next year. That being said I guess he did get what he wanted by appearing on the show.
And as you pointed out Sarah, those who have a problem with the rise of the BNP need to take a serious look at the so called "main three". The expenses scandal has left all of them with dirty hands and the way they have tried to avoid paying back the money has enraged a population going through a record sixth period of recession. Gordon Brown's refusal to step down stinks like the very worst shit. It must be that he is determined to see us floating off down the poluted EU rivers of the Lisbon Treaty before he goes. Cameron is showing his weekness by refusing to push for a confidence vote, he knows he will win the next election but is worried about Labour rallying round their leader and defeating any attempt at forcing him out early. The Lib / Dems have been an ineffective waste of time for decades now, in fact their gravitation towards the centre left has seen them lose the protest votes of disenfranchised Tories while the BNP continue to nick votes off Labour.
I know that many are rabidly against the BNP, but they do come accross as being at least more honest than the liblabcon.
have we solved it yet............. rolleyes
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have we solved it yet............. rolleyes

loon :laughabove:
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have we solved it yet............. rolleyes

Well it just required a little bit of patience...a few frank words and ..........erm ahh NO o.k. no we haven't
Yeah we have - Dont vote BNP
I don't give too monkeys fucks how you try and pretty up the "New" BNP its a party born from and of fascists and racists and xenophobes with a good smattering of thugs too.
If the party were so reformed and "right on" how the fucking hell are there still people like Griffin in it? Do you really think they he's had a moment of revelation has he been born again? No he's a shit no more no less. The core BNP are still made up of the same people they always have been. It may just be that they try and pretty things up by denying this denying that but they are still BNP. If they weren't still those vile people from the past then why associate themselves with it.
Bastard party, lie detector the leadership and if they fail parade them in stocks in every school in every town in the land for the young to look at and know who they are and what they stand for.
I do indeed feel for those pulled towards them thinking that they are a new way and another option, they aint they're just bullshit bad bastards that lie because if thats what it takes to get noticed then thats what they'll do they will lie! I don't care how people try and intellectualise hypothesize theorise and philosophise in the end the BNP are wrong and I sincerely hope they don't become a serious problem, I don't believe they will.
Funny that in times of uncertainty and challenge that these puppets raise their ugly heads.
I'm thinking of voting for them again in the General Election, they might even get into parliament.
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Where seven to ten people were cramped into one room.

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This is happening to British families, due to lack of council housig and housing being repossed you end up living in a bed & breakfast for months on end with your kids - something I will have to face in the near future.

This has always happened to the working classes, I don’t see it as it has been a problem since immigration.
I was raised in an upstairs converted Victorian house, we had one bedroom living room and a small kitchen. No bathroom (what luxury), and an outside toilet.
My parents raised 4 children there 3 girls and a boy sharing one bedroom, we did get moved when the eldest was 15 the youngest 4 not because of over crowding but because the house was condemned we move out and within a week it was demolished.
I still look back to that first home with fond memories, happy times, my Father worked hard my mother never complained about living conditions it was home.
I think people just expect more these days as if it a given right. Back then in the 60’s people just got on with things and made the most of what they had.
Maybe it’s why I just appreciate what I have as I have more than what my parents had.
I was raised in a very cosmopolitan area we had the first immigrations living amongst us, I went to a school in a highly black white mix in Peckham. I still live within the same area and raise my own children here, why because I have never had any problems with cultural mixing and neither have my children.
After all we are all human and can live side by side and be accepting of each other and look out for each other, as once you get to know them, we all have a heart a soul feelings and compassion.
I would hate for the BNP to get a foot holding in this country for being around the first influx of immigrates has taught me after growing up with them in the 70’s I would never like to go back to those days, I thought we have come so far, but seems we like to appoint blame when things are not so cushy for most.
The problems of late have come about because of a recession, a recession not caused by immigrates but of middle class greedy white bank workers that wanted a sure way of getting rich quick. They dumped this shit on the government to bail them out so funds have been diverted to assist the banks. Where that money could have been better spent on Hospitals, schools, housing.
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Where seven to ten people were cramped into one room.

Quote by soul-girl
This is happening to British families, due to lack of council housig and housing being repossed you end up living in a bed & breakfast for months on end with your kids - something I will have to face in the near future.

This has always happened to the working classes, I don’t see it as it has been a problem since immigration.
It is something that maybe happened in the past but hopefully we have long since moved on from those days.
I was raised in an upstairs converted Victorian house, we had one bedroom living room and a small kitchen. No bathroom (what luxury), and an outside toilet.
My parents raised 4 children there 3 girls and a boy sharing one bedroom, we did get moved when the eldest was 15 the youngest 4 not because of over crowding but because the house was condemned we move out and within a week it was demolished.
I still look back to that first home with fond memories, happy times, my Father worked hard my mother never complained about living conditions it was home.
I think people just expect more these days as if it a given right. Back then in the 60’s people just got on with things and made the most of what they had.
But that was 50 years ago. Even in the 60s people expected more than than their grandparents did....that's progress!
Maybe it’s why I just appreciate what I have as I have more than what my parents had.
I was raised in a very cosmopolitan area we had the first immigrations living amongst us, I went to a school in a highly black white mix in Peckham. I still live within the same area and raise my own children here, why because I have never had any problems with cultural mixing and neither have my children.
After all we are all human and can live side by side and be accepting of each other and look out for each other, as once you get to know them, we all have a heart a soul feelings and compassion.
I would hate for the BNP to get a foot holding in this country for being around the first influx of immigrates has taught me after growing up with them in the 70’s I would never like to go back to those days, I thought we have come so far, but seems we like to appoint blame when things are not so cushy for most.
The problems of late have come about because of a recession, a recession not caused by immigrates but of middle class greedy white bank workers that wanted a sure way of getting rich quick. They dumped this shit on the government to bail them out so funds have been diverted to assist the banks. Where that money could have been better spent on Hospitals, schools, housing.
Sorry Minx but the sort of problems that Soul Girl refers to have not been caused by the recession, the money that was used to bail out the banks would not have been spent on schools or anything else. It may however have the effect of future funds not being spent in those areas.
Well I HAVE been consistant in MY views, and I know where that has got me on here, and I have never even voted BNP!! I can only imagine what abuse I would have recieved had I admitted to that one. Yet others who have admitted to voting for them, not a murmer!
Putting that aside.....Minxy are you really telling me that this has everything to do with the recession???
This recession has been going on for not even two years, the mass immigration has been happening for much much longer than that.
Do you really believe that the money spent bailing out the bankers would have been used for anything else? Of course it would not have.
Multiculturalism can work but....in a lot of towns and cities the white middle classes have felt abandoned and neglected, over the mass immigrants of the past ten years. That is a fact which has seen the BNP rise, and will continue to do so unless something is done.
I know where you live Minxy, I know that area very very well. The areas around where you live are predominantly black and Asian families.
The majority of Brits are not moaning about that, what they are moaning about is vast swathes of Eastern Europeans.
Immigration IS a problem in that the numbers have far exceeded the numbers THIS Government said would come here. It IS putting a massive strain on resources and we have seen over the last week or so, that the Government have deliberately done this, to push along multiculturalism. To further their OWN agendas, with no regard to the British people who now struggle for work, and housing and health care, and schools and pre school places.
You can paint the painting any colour you like but the fact remains it is PEOPLE many of them that are saying enough is enough.
If you have any doubt as to the problems check out a tv programme called Border control. It is a daily battle of illegals and people telling massive lies to get into the UK.
Sort out this mess or face the consequences in the future.
People are voting for the BNP because their views have been ignored, and that will prove to be a dangerous game they have played when voting comes around next year.
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Well I HAVE been consistant in MY views, and I know where that has got me on here, and I have never even voted BNP!! I can only imagine what abuse I would have recieved had I admitted to that one. Yet others who have admitted to voting for them, not a murmer!
Putting that aside.....Minxy are you really telling me that this has everything to do with the recession???
This recession has been going on for not even two years, the mass immigration has been happening for much much longer than that.
Do you really believe that the money spent bailing out the bankers would have been used for anything else? Of course it would not have.
Multiculturalism can work but....in a lot of towns and cities the white middle classes have felt abandoned and neglected, over the mass immigrants of the past ten years. That is a fact which has seen the BNP rise, and will continue to do so unless something is done.
I know where you live Minxy, I know that area very very well. The areas around where you live are predominantly black and Asian families.
The majority of Brits are not moaning about that, what they are moaning about is vast swathes of Eastern Europeans.
Immigration IS a problem in that the numbers have far exceeded the numbers THIS Government said would come here. It IS putting a massive strain on resources and we have seen over the last week or so, that the Government have deliberately done this, to push along multiculturalism. To further their OWN agendas, with no regard to the British people who now struggle for work, and housing and health care, and schools and pre school places.
You can paint the painting any colour you like but the fact remains it is PEOPLE many of them that are saying enough is enough.
If you have any doubt as to the problems check out a tv programme called Border control. It is a daily battle of illegals and people telling massive lies to get into the UK.
Sort out this mess or face the consequences in the future.
People are voting for the BNP because their views have been ignored, and that will prove to be a dangerous game they have played when voting comes around next year.

Again the plaitiff cry of the hard done to middle classes this is bullshit kenty and you know it ....the B.N.P. vote is on the whole white poor and WORKING class if the problem is to be addressed it is amongst these people not the cosseted middle classes .....if you can take me to a middle class barrat home housing estate and show me these hordes of immigrants I'll think again but to my knowledge any immigrants are housed in working class areas or are ghettoised into areas where the white population don't want to live...If you want to have this debate at least have a realistic debate about the issues not some Daily Mail bullshit
P.S. the B.N.P. and all similar parties are cancer and like any cancer need to be cut out of the host body
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Well I HAVE been consistant in MY views, and I know where that has got me on here, and I have never even voted BNP!! I can only imagine what abuse I would have recieved had I admitted to that one. Yet others who have admitted to voting for them, not a murmer!
Putting that aside.....Minxy are you really telling me that this has everything to do with the recession???
This recession has been going on for not even two years, the mass immigration has been happening for much much longer than that.
Do you really believe that the money spent bailing out the bankers would have been used for anything else? Of course it would not have.
Multiculturalism can work but....in a lot of towns and cities the white middle classes have felt abandoned and neglected, over the mass immigrants of the past ten years. That is a fact which has seen the BNP rise, and will continue to do so unless something is done.
I know where you live Minxy, I know that area very very well. The areas around where you live are predominantly black and Asian families.
The majority of Brits are not moaning about that, what they are moaning about is vast swathes of Eastern Europeans.
Immigration IS a problem in that the numbers have far exceeded the numbers THIS Government said would come here. It IS putting a massive strain on resources and we have seen over the last week or so, that the Government have deliberately done this, to push along multiculturalism. To further their OWN agendas, with no regard to the British people who now struggle for work, and housing and health care, and schools and pre school places.
You can paint the painting any colour you like but the fact remains it is PEOPLE many of them that are saying enough is enough.
If you have any doubt as to the problems check out a tv programme called Border control. It is a daily battle of illegals and people telling massive lies to get into the UK.
Sort out this mess or face the consequences in the future.
People are voting for the BNP because their views have been ignored, and that will prove to be a dangerous game they have played when voting comes around next year.

You`ve been just about the most inconsistant person ever to post on these forums !!!!
And you one of the most abusive!!
Careful now. wink bolt
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Usually Lost rambling bollox

Funny thing is Lost...
You could easily go back a few years and change BNP for Labour in your post.
Labour? Don't understand and not quite with you on that Flower. I'm not up with politics as some of you guys although i'm pretty convinced labour has been pretty inclusive in its protestations over the last 40 years hasn't it?
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Where seven to ten people were cramped into one room.

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This is happening to British families, due to lack of council housig and housing being repossed you end up living in a bed & breakfast for months on end with your kids - something I will have to face in the near future.

This has always happened to the working classes, I don’t see it as it has been a problem since immigration.
It is something that maybe happened in the past but hopefully we have long since moved on from those days.
I was raised in an upstairs converted Victorian house, we had one bedroom living room and a small kitchen. No bathroom (what luxury), and an outside toilet.
My parents raised 4 children there 3 girls and a boy sharing one bedroom, we did get moved when the eldest was 15 the youngest 4 not because of over crowding but because the house was condemned we move out and within a week it was demolished.
I still look back to that first home with fond memories, happy times, my Father worked hard my mother never complained about living conditions it was home.
I think people just expect more these days as if it a given right. Back then in the 60’s people just got on with things and made the most of what they had.
But that was 50 years ago. Even in the 60s people expected more than than their grandparents did....that's progress!
Maybe it’s why I just appreciate what I have as I have more than what my parents had.
I was raised in a very cosmopolitan area we had the first immigrations living amongst us, I went to a school in a highly black white mix in Peckham. I still live within the same area and raise my own children here, why because I have never had any problems with cultural mixing and neither have my children.
After all we are all human and can live side by side and be accepting of each other and look out for each other, as once you get to know them, we all have a heart a soul feelings and compassion.
I would hate for the BNP to get a foot holding in this country for being around the first influx of immigrates has taught me after growing up with them in the 70’s I would never like to go back to those days, I thought we have come so far, but seems we like to appoint blame when things are not so cushy for most.
The problems of late have come about because of a recession, a recession not caused by immigrates but of middle class greedy white bank workers that wanted a sure way of getting rich quick. They dumped this shit on the government to bail them out so funds have been diverted to assist the banks. Where that money could have been better spent on Hospitals, schools, housing.
Sorry Minx but the sort of problems that Soul Girl refers to have not been caused by the recession, the money that was used to bail out the banks would not have been spent on schools or anything else. It may however have the effect of future funds not being spent in those areas.
Ok Max you have a point, but all I was saying is that housing within the working classes in general has always been a problem it is nothing new. Look back over history, I do indeed feel a lot of factors add to the causes now and it isn't just immigration. So we can't just always blame it on those reasons for lack of it.
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Ok Max you have a point, but all I was saying is that housing within the working classes in general has always been a problem it is nothing new. Look back over history, I do indeed feel a lot of factors add to the causes now and it isn't just immigration. So we can't just always blame it on those reasons for lack of it.

I think your right there Minx. Although i would go as far as too say that subjugation of the poor is important to keep the rich and powerful where they are. Housing is just another means to manipulate the wealth of the poor.
I attended a group interview the other day in Bristol and one of the group, a youngish single diabled mother of two from Cornwall, had after 4 years just been allocated her first proper home by a local association. she kept on saing to the interviewers how "priviledged" she was Privildeged! for goodness sake, to go into social housing f*ck me what a way to think of it Fortunate yes, lucky yes but priviledged.
Oh and thats another thing. Its not now that people live in council or housing associations we're to call it social housing now and those who are in need of social housing. Just more labels to keep people thinking they're "priviledged".
Jesus I'm becoming more and more jaded and cynical as time goes on.