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SlurpySarah
Sexlightened
Quote by hotgent
(Not a BNP supporter - just a voter ;) Mr Griffin claims he was bullied which is rich coming from someone whose "political party" members have convictions for attacking and bullying others. Apart from that, he distinguished himself with all the charm of a megalomaniac lol

Members of political parties with criminal convictions - surely not??!!
Here's a brief rundown:-
Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn – Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.
. Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner – Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.
. Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green – Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He one woman on her wedding day.
. Labour Mayor (Todmorden) John Winstanley – Convicted and jailed for and threats to kill. After and threatening to kill his terrified victim, Winstanley then ordered the woman to go on all fours before urinating on her.
. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.
. Labour’s current Parliamentary Candidate (Reading East) Tony Page – Has 2 Convictions for Acts of Gross Indecency` in public toilets.
. Labour Mayor (Burnley) Peter Swainston – Convicted of sex offences in public toilet.
Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell – Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.
. Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys – Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.
. Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker – Received a banning order for stalking women.
. Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor – Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.
. Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington – Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.
. Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy – Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.
. Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan – Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.
. Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer – Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.
. Tory Party councillor and former Mayor (Wrexham), Michael Morris – Convicted and put on probation for 2 years, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV.
Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman – Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.
. Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler- Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.
. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire – Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a plastic bag containing lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.
. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick – Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to , Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick’s gay lover – Alan Valentine, is also a Lib-Dem councillor.
There are plenty more to be found - so, Labour, Conservative and Lib-Dem voters, how do you feel about voting for the party that has or has had these members?
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by SlurpySarah
(Not a BNP supporter - just a voter ;) Mr Griffin claims he was bullied which is rich coming from someone whose "political party" members have convictions for attacking and bullying others. Apart from that, he distinguished himself with all the charm of a megalomaniac lol

Members of political parties with criminal convictions - surely not??!!
Here's a brief rundown:-
Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn – Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.
. Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner – Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.
. Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green – Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He one woman on her wedding day.
. Labour Mayor (Todmorden) John Winstanley – Convicted and jailed for and threats to kill. After and threatening to kill his terrified victim, Winstanley then ordered the woman to go on all fours before urinating on her.
. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.
. Labour’s current Parliamentary Candidate (Reading East) Tony Page – Has 2 Convictions for Acts of Gross Indecency` in public toilets.
. Labour Mayor (Burnley) Peter Swainston – Convicted of sex offences in public toilet.
Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell – Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.
. Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys – Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.
. Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker – Received a banning order for stalking women.
. Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor – Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.
. Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington – Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.
. Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy – Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.
. Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan – Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.
. Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer – Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.
. Tory Party councillor and former Mayor (Wrexham), Michael Morris – Convicted and put on probation for 2 years, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV.
Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman – Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.
. Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler- Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.
. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire – Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a plastic bag containing lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.
. Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick – Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to , Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick’s gay lover – Alan Valentine, is also a Lib-Dem councillor.
There are plenty more to be found - so, Labour, Conservative and Lib-Dem voters, how do you feel about voting for the party that has or has had these members?
Brilliant! :lol:
Well don't think people can hold the prison conviction against him now!
again like i said...scaremongering from the militant lefties is no different that the right wing facists doing it!
Unknown User
Blimey....that must have taken some looking into, but kinda proves a point I feel.
Also at the BBC studios, or should I say outside of them, there was many a " thug ".
They looked to me to be the same people at the G20 demos.
It looked nasty and could have turned violent very easily. So both sides can be violent it seems.
Just trying to have a " balanced " discussion.
It seems the demonstators also have their thugs.
Unknown User
Quote by kentswingers777
Blimey....that must have taken some looking into, but kinda proves a point I feel.

Not really it's on the BNP website.
Good and bad in all parties. Though I don't think the 3 main stream ones resorted to nail bombing folks.
Unknown User
Quote by Rogue_trader
Blimey....that must have taken some looking into, but kinda proves a point I feel.

Not really it's on the BNP website.
Good and bad in all parties. Though I don't think the 3 main stream ones resorted to nail bombing folks.
Is it? :shock:
Unknown User
Quote by kentswingers777
Is it? :shock:

Yep it is and its a lot longer!
Though the stats don't tell you over what period the information was gathered and if you based it on head of population of each particular party then you could work out the criminal convictions per party member which i think would show the BNP has a higher count than the others.
Though the green party would be quite high up, but their convictions are not exactly in the same league.
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by Rogue_trader
Blimey....that must have taken some looking into, but kinda proves a point I feel.

Not really it's on the BNP website.
Good and bad in all parties. Though I don't think the 3 main stream ones resorted to nail bombing folks.
What...and thats worse if not equal to young children! :shock:
Unknown User
Quote by Mr-Powers
What...and thats worse if not equal to young children! :shock:

I don't think the way the main political parties tried to get their political agenda across was by young children I think that was the miscreants that were in the party and not party policy.
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by Rogue_trader
What...and thats worse if not equal to young children! :shock:

I don't think the way the main political parties tried to get their political agendaacross was by young children I think that was the miscreants that were in the party and not party policy.
You must have Combat 18 mixed up with the BNP rolleyes
SlurpySarah
Sexlightened
Quote by Rogue_trader
Blimey....that must have taken some looking into, but kinda proves a point I feel.

Not really it's on the BNP website.
Good and bad in all parties. Though I don't think the 3 main stream ones resorted to nail bombing folks.
Damn it all to heaven and hell, I've been caught researching without due care and attention!
Unknown User
Quote by Mr-Powers
You must have Combat 18 mixed up with the BNP rolleyes

Nope
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by Rogue_trader
You must have Combat 18 mixed up with the BNP rolleyes

Nope
Unknown User
Quote by Mr-Powers
You must have Combat 18 mixed up with the BNP rolleyes

Nope

Combat 18 is the security wing of the BNP.
Unknown User
I thought they all supported West Ham United?
Unknown User
Quote by kentswingers777
I thought they all supported West Ham United?

A bit below the belt for West Ham Supporters... :giggle:
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by Rogue_trader
You must have Combat 18 mixed up with the BNP rolleyes

Nope

Combat 18 is the security wing of the BNP.
No its not...it is the "armed wing" of the far right British neo-Nazi organisation Blood & Honour
Unknown User
Quote by Mr-Powers
No its not...it is the "armed wing" of the far right British neo-Nazi organisation Blood & Honour

Yes I am well aware of their connection with Blood and Honour, but they are totally entangled with the BNP.
Panorama's expose was very clear on this fact.
Anyway the nail bombing attack I was referring to was undertaken against a gay bar by a member of the BNP not C18.
Another member of the BNP was convicted for further explosive related charges and another for making nail bombs. These weren't C18 members but BNP.
Al1963
Orgasminator
Sarah you was "cheerleading" Griffin on a similar thread. I guessed you watched it. How did you felt about the programme? The way he was handled and the way he dealt with it. What do you feel about the party since.
Disclaimer:
This is not an attack, just eliciting the other perpective.
Al1963
Orgasminator
Quote by Rogue_trader
Blimey....that must have taken some looking into, but kinda proves a point I feel.

Not really it's on the BNP website.

They are saying that to deviate from their past racist crimes.
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by Rogue_trader
No its not...it is the "armed wing" of the far right British neo-Nazi organisation Blood & Honour

Yes I am well aware of their connection with Blood and Honour, but they are totally entangled with the BNP.
Panorama's expose was very clear on this fact.
Anyway the nail bombing attack I was referring to was undertaken against a gay bar by a member of the BNP not C18.
Another member of the BNP was convicted for further explosive related charges and another for making nail bombs. These weren't C18 members but BNP.
David John Copeland joined the BNP in 1997,he left in 1998,outraged by their democratic involvement then joined the smaller,violent and openly Neo Nazi group the National Socialist bombing occured a year after he left the BNP...a party he considerd too soft...is is at present serving his sentence in Broadmoor hospital,not a prison.
Unknown User
Quote by Rogue_trader
I thought they all supported West Ham United?

A bit below the belt for West Ham Supporters... :giggle:
Sorry I was under the impression that SOME were supporters of WHU.....I stand corrected if I am wrong ( which does not happen often ). wink
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by Al1963
Blimey....that must have taken some looking into, but kinda proves a point I feel.

Not really it's on the BNP website.

They are saying that to deviate from their past racist crimes.
Really...i'm glad they've enlightened us about the perverts we have in the three major parties!
SlurpySarah
Sexlightened
Quote by Al1963
Sarah you was "cheerleading" Griffin on a similar thread. I guessed you watched it. How did you felt about the programme? The way he was handled and the way he dealt with it. What do you feel about the party since.
Disclaiamer:
This is not an attack, just eliciting the other perpective.

Honestly, I thought he came across as slimy and arrogant but he is a politician and that's pretty much what I would expect from any politician. I did think he presented himself better than the others, especially Jack Straw who couldn't answer a straight question without faffing and bumbling. Griffin answered questions as best he could before he was shouted down. Whether I agreed with his views or not, at least he showed fortitude for being on there in the first place. I found the American museum worker most amusing, and as for the so-called "impartial" Dumbleby, he should be sacked from that job and employed on an "Oprah" style show. QT has lost whatever credibility it had.
The BNP benefitted from his appearance, but not perhaps in the way they wanted. There's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about.
mr__powers1
Sex God
Quote by SlurpySarah
Sarah you was "cheerleading" Griffin on a similar thread. I guessed you watched it. How did you felt about the programme? The way he was handled and the way he dealt with it. What do you feel about the party since.
Disclaiamer:
This is not an attack, just eliciting the other perpective.

Honestly, I thought he came across as slimy and arrogant but he is a politician and that's pretty much what I would expect from any politician. I did think he presented himself better than the others, especially Jack Straw who couldn't answer a straight question without faffing and bumbling. Griffin answered questions as best he could before he was shouted down. Whether I agreed with his views or not, at least he showed fortitude for being on there in the first place. I found the American museum worker most amusing, and as for the so-called "impartial" Dumbleby, he should be sacked from that job and employed on an "Oprah" style show. QT has lost whatever credibility it had.
The BNP benefitted from his appearance, but not perhaps in the way they wanted. There's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about.
yeah..the silly cow was rattling on about the Romans giving us diversty and that anyone could a Roman...yeah and if you didn't want to be one...they'd crucify you...simples!!
browning
Orgasminator
Can you tell me Browning....if you do not mind, why you are a member and what makes you vote for them? Is there anything in particulars they say that appeals to you, or is it all their policies.
The reason I voted for the bnp is probably the same reason most people vote for them, I am bloody fed up with the main parties!! evil
I thought nick griffin was poor on question time, and I, along with alot of bnp supporters don't want him as leader. I would like to see the bnp move away from thier racist roots and concentrate on matters that matter to ALL british people.
In life, we pick a party that we think best suits us, it does not mean you will agree with EVERYTHING the party stands for.
From the bnp website;
Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally , I agree with that.
Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British,
I agree with that.
Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently
DO NOT agree with that.
Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.
Agree with that.
- Introduce automatic prison sentences for all repeat offenders;
- Put police back on the streets and remove their current political correctness shackles;
- Allow victims of crime full freedom to defend themselves and their property
Agree with all of that.
All from the bnp website, there is also a load of stuff on there I DON'T agree with.
Lost
Sex God
Holy crap Browning I don't think there's a full sentence I agree with, bloody hell! I feel like i've been slapped in the face by 1975.
I really don't want to see your points repeated in a quote they frighten me enough seeing them once.
So to each of your points I say

No
No
No
browning
Orgasminator
Quote by Lost
Holy crap Browning I don't think there's a full sentence I agree with, bloody hell! I feel like i've been slapped in the face by 1975.
I really don't want to see your points repeated in a quote they frighten me enough seeing them once.
So to each of your points I say

No
No
No

We are all different.
Some people like tomatoes, some don't.
SlurpySarah
Sexlightened
Quote by browning
Can you tell me Browning....if you do not mind, why you are a member and what makes you vote for them? Is there anything in particulars they say that appeals to you, or is it all their policies.
The reason I voted for the bnp is probably the same reason most people vote for them, I am bloody fed up with the main parties!! evil
I thought nick griffin was poor on question time, and I, along with alot of bnp supporters don't want him as leader. I would like to see the bnp move away from thier racist roots and concentrate on matters that matter to ALL british people.
In life, we pick a party that we think best suits us, it does not mean you will agree with EVERYTHING the party stands for.
From the bnp website;
Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally , I agree with that.
Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British,
I agree with that.
Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently
DO NOT agree with that.
Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.
Agree with that.
- Introduce automatic prison sentences for all repeat offenders;
- Put police back on the streets and remove their current political correctness shackles;
- Allow victims of crime full freedom to defend themselves and their property
Agree with all of that.
All from the bnp website, there is also a load of stuff on there I DON'T agree with.

I agree with all you've said here,so
yes
yes
yes
The part I highlighted - my understanding is that the profits and properties these people have acquired using the benefits of living in a first world country would be confiscated before their repatriation. The generous settlement would be a percentage of that, and the rest would go back to the public purse so that we can have the health service we and our parents worked and paid for. Then we can pay for fat people to get thin and we won't keep seeing heart-rending charity adverts on TV for Great Ormond St, Childline etc.
Unknown User
Thanks Browning for your honesty mate.
Yes I have seen their website.....jeez they even have a tv channel. :shock:
Yes there are SOME of their points I agree with too, but do not agree with sending anyone home, unless they are here illegaly.
My main points have always been the ammount this Government have let in, and the inability to deport those who should not be here.
Also I do not agree with the arguement of persecution, when they have travelled through so many countries to get to the UK....there are reasons why they do that and it ain't because they are persecuted.
I have seen the border control programme on the tv, real life cases, and the ease at which they can claim, and get asylum is frighteningly easy.
soulgirl
Sexpert
Quote by Rogue_trader
You must have Combat 18 mixed up with the BNP rolleyes

Nope

Combat 18 is the security wing of the BNP.
The person behind the nail bomb attack was David Copeland in May 1997, at the age of 21, he joined the British National Party, a far right, anti-immigration party. Copeland acted as a steward at a BNP meeting, in the course of which he came into contact with the BNP leadership and was photographed standing next to John Tyndall, the then leader of the BNP. It was during this period that Copeland read The Turner Diaries, and first learned how to make bombs using fireworks with alarm clocks as timers after downloading a so-called terrorists' handbook from the internet.
In 1998, Copeland left the BNP, outraged by their democratic involvement strategy. He then joined the smaller, violent and openly Neo Nazi, National Socialist Movement, becoming its regional leader for Hampshire just weeks before the start of his bombing campaign. It was around this time that he visited his family doctor and was prescribed anti-depressants after telling the doctor he felt he was "losing his mind".