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BNP supporters were you proud of Griffin's performance on QT?

Quote by kentswingers777
Benny.........I have been called a racist on this very forum for daring to say about immigration....you know it and I know it, and everyone else knows it.
BUT.......since Griffin was on the telly, and those two people on the show said it is not racist, and now even the PM himself has said it....I have not heard a dicky bird.
Still I knew I was right all along...as usual. cool

Talking and discussing immigration is not racist. The way this information is given can be construed as racist..........there is a difference.
tweet tweet.........now you have heard a dicky bird lol
Dave_Notts
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
And I'd always thought the "great" was nothing to do with international standing and more as in "greater" to describe the british islands and nations

Ya know what thought did Staggs?
I can never remember it ever being called " greater Britain ".
Great Britain for that is what it once was. :upset: wink
never said it was ever greater britain..but great as in large/larger....now if you mean it's not what it once was due to coastal erosion I may agree with you.
Ahem:
You'll like this, not a lot, but you'll like it.
Brittania Major- ie Great Britain was purely used to distinguish us from Brittania Minor- "lesser" Britain...all down to size I'm afraid, and nothing at all to do with being "good."
Brittania Minor by the way is lovely- or Brittany as it's known now.
Well I never had YOU down as the " sensitive " type!! :shock:
The comment " There are too many East Europeans coming to this country " is a fact...check the figures where they said and over came here...is that not too many then according to their figures?? :shock:
The other comment " All East Europeans coming to this country drop sprogs every five minutes ", is also what many think as they do tend to have larger families than the UK do on average. I may not have said it in the non " sensitive " way you would have liked, but ya got me drift.
YOUR interpretation of " racist " is certainly not mine. None of my comments were ever removed from a thread, because of their content.
The bottom line here is IF people like you had not screamed the race card so often, the BNP would never have grown as they have. Trying to shut people up from saying things about immigration which YOU have towards me many times here, has only fuelled the BNP's popularity amonst many people.
It was only a year ago when no politician would dare utter the immigration word for fear that the " sensitive " ones amongst us would be offended, and then use the " your a racist crap " to try and shut people up.
The BNP have grown and become more populare BECAUSE of people like you, who are quick to scream " racist or bigot ", or maybe it was just aimed at me? :shock:
Still I have been proved right where now everyone all of a sudden wants to talk about it, and the " sensitive " ones seem to all have gone into hibernation for the winter.
It is the white Liberal middle classes that have made the BNP grow, and now we all may well pay the price IF Griffin becomes an elected member of Parliament next year....and it's possible now!
Maybe Griffin will also become " sensitive " in time ??
Quote by kentswingers777
YOUR interpretation of " racist " is certainly not mine. None of my comments were ever removed from a thread, because of their content.

Just playing Devils Advocate here....
Neither was the "Lazy Whites" comment removed and that was most certainly racist...
Who said that one Steve?
Was it me?
If it was yes whites can be lazy, blimey I had a few here last year. Blacks can be lazy, so can yellows and in my book is not racist at all.
Why are people so touchy?
The " white trash " comment in Coronation Street was not removed a few years ago, I did not find that offensive at all....but then again maybe I do not offend easily and see a comment like that as not even worth bothering about.
There has to be the same rules for all, and not different ones because you are black or Asian or white.
Racism will always be here...black to white and white to black etc....it is a damn sight better than it was 20 or 30 years ago in the UK, and that is a great thing....but there is still a long way to go.
Quote by kentswingers777
Who said that one Steve?
Was it me?
If it was yes whites can be lazy, blimey I had a few here last year. Blacks can be lazy, so can yellows and in my book is not racist at all.
Why are people so touchy?
The " white trash " comment in Coronation Street was not removed a few years ago, I did not find that offensive at all....but then again maybe I do not offend easily and see a comment like that as not even worth bothering about.
There has to be the same rules for all, and not different ones because you are black or Asian or white.
Racism will always be here...black to white and white to black etc....it is a damn sight better than it was 20 or 30 years ago in the UK, and that is a great thing....but there is still a long way to go.

An asian member made several racist remarks,about white people in the Question Time thread and not one moderator pulled him up about it...but thats to be expected now adays...try going to your boss and telling him your being racially bullied by a black or asian person...and see how quickly it will get turned round when "the" accused person throws the race card in.
Quote by Mr-Powers
Who said that one Steve?
Was it me?
If it was yes whites can be lazy, blimey I had a few here last year. Blacks can be lazy, so can yellows and in my book is not racist at all.
Why are people so touchy?
The " white trash " comment in Coronation Street was not removed a few years ago, I did not find that offensive at all....but then again maybe I do not offend easily and see a comment like that as not even worth bothering about.
There has to be the same rules for all, and not different ones because you are black or Asian or white.
Racism will always be here...black to white and white to black etc....it is a damn sight better than it was 20 or 30 years ago in the UK, and that is a great thing....but there is still a long way to go.

An asian member made several racist remarks,about white people in the Question Time thread and not one moderator pulled him up about it...but thats to be expected now adays...try going to your boss and telling him your being racially bullied by a black or asian person...and see how quickly it will get turned round when "the" accused person throws the race card in.
We don't miss nowt! smile
The very natural instinct that is often described as "racism" has been around ever since humans of different races discovered each other, and it will be here until the end of days. I'm not on about racial hatred, just the basic human fact that we know that people from other racial groups are different and cannot help treating them as such. You don't have to be nasty or disrespectful to treat someone different, some people are so blatant in the way they offer preferential treatment that it is embarrassing. Obviously there are still some people who abuse those who are of a different race, and that of course is unacceptable and ignorant. There really has to be a balance but unfortunately there is not and much of the blame for this lies with ridiculous political correctness enforced by hand wringing idiots ever since the mid 1980's and pushed to the extremes by so called "New Labour".
You tell someone they can't do or say something they are more likely to think about doing it, come out in favour of one group at a cost to another and you are going to see resentment. As Kenty pointed out earlier, a black man and an Asian woman told the QT panel it was not "racist" to discuss immigration. This worked out well for everyone because it appears to have opened up the debate. But had it been two white people who said that they would have been criticised and ignored. Is it not "racist" that the opinions of two people were only acceptable because of their skin colour or ethnicity?
That to me was proof that liberals in glass houses are throwing stones and getting away with it. And yes, nearly all the people responsible for the mess this country is in are white British lefty liberals, and that includes the immigration problems.
That is very true Brighton.
Black people that I know well, hate it when people are banned from selling a Golly in their shop window, like what happened a while back. He said he did not know one black person who found it offensive, and said that by making an issue of something like that, makes the race issue even worse.
An engineer we use is a Jamaican who hes been over here for 40 years, and he thinks the white Liberals are the main source of problems, that exist today.
Now that is coming from a black guy, who says " did they ask me as a black man if I find so and so offensive "? No they did not....
I think it was Steve who said me saying that whites are lazy was offensive. I cannot understand that one at all. I am white and I can be a lazy bugger at times, but if someone called me a lazy white git, I would find it rather funny, and certainly not offensive, and certainly not racist in any way.
I have said it before and I will say it again.....treat EVERYONE as an equal, and do not base anything on the colour of a persons skin. But IF I was to go into a police station and say I had been racially abused say by some black guy, they would laugh me out of the station. But if the shoe was on the other foot, the whole of the station would be there to see who would be the first one to arrest me. Now how is that right and fair?
It should not matter one jot what your colour is. It is just as feasible to be racist whether you are black or white, but it seems not to be the case.
The BNP have been very clever in their manipulation of things like this, and many people believe it, so will vote for them.
Treat people the same, with the same laws and the same rules, and maybe just maybe the race issue will improve to such a degree, that the likes of the BNP will cease to be anything.
Just a thought.
Quote by kentswingers777
I think it was Steve who said me saying that whites are lazy was offensive. I cannot understand that one at all. I am white and I can be a lazy bugger at times, but if someone called me a lazy white git, I would find it rather funny, and certainly not offensive, and certainly not racist in any way.

I didn't sayyou had said it.....
It was actually said by someone who isn't white and was said in a detramental way as well.....
Sorry Steve...ya know what I am like for saying things. wink
He could have called me a white anything to be honest, I would not be offended.
BUT IF he would have called me a lazy fucking cu-t...then that I would find offensive.
HIM or anyone else referring to the colour of my skin, and then making a detrimental remark about it, I would find it as funny as Ronnie Corbett.
Sorry for the confusion Steve, I kind of jumped the gun a bit.
Quote by kentswingers777
HIM or anyone else referring to the colour of my skin, and then making a detrimental remark about it, I would find it as funny as Ronnie Corbett.

Same here.....I find Ronnie Corbett about as funny as piles though....
Quote by kentswingers777
Sorry for the confusion Steve, I kind of jumped the gun a bit.

No probs.....
my history teacher misled me, he said that the name "great" britain derived from the bretons from brittany who's plantagenet families ruled "grand" large bretagne and refered to it this way as the europeans still do. just goes to show what professors of history know dunnit !
Quote by BrightonGeezer
The very natural instinct that is often described as "racism" has been around ever since humans of different races discovered each other, and it will be here until the end of days. I'm not on about racial hatred, just the basic human fact that we know that people from other racial groups are different and cannot help treating them as such. You don't have to be nasty or disrespectful to treat someone different, some people are so blatant in the way they offer preferential treatment that it is embarrassing. Obviously there are still some people who abuse those who are of a different race, and that of course is unacceptable and ignorant. There really has to be a balance but unfortunately there is not and much of the blame for this lies with ridiculous political correctness enforced by hand wringing idiots ever since the mid 1980's and pushed to the extremes by so called "New Labour".
You tell someone they can't do or say something they are more likely to think about doing it, come out in favour of one group at a cost to another and you are going to see resentment. As Kenty pointed out earlier, a black man and an Asian woman told the QT panel it was not "racist" to discuss immigration. This worked out well for everyone because it appears to have opened up the debate. But had it been two white people who said that they would have been criticised and ignored. Is it not "racist" that the opinions of two people were only acceptable because of their skin colour or ethnicity?
That to me was proof that liberals in glass houses are throwing stones and getting away with it. And yes, nearly all the people responsible for the mess this country is in are white British lefty liberals, and that includes the immigration problems.

Would that be like the natural instinct to cull weak and infirm?or the natural instinct to kill the young of others to allow a better chance of survival for ones own?we're a little bit far down the line to be saying that natural is always right
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
The very natural instinct that is often described as "racism" has been around ever since humans of different races discovered each other, and it will be here until the end of days. I'm not on about racial hatred, just the basic human fact that we know that people from other racial groups are different and cannot help treating them as such. You don't have to be nasty or disrespectful to treat someone different, some people are so blatant in the way they offer preferential treatment that it is embarrassing. Obviously there are still some people who abuse those who are of a different race, and that of course is unacceptable and ignorant. There really has to be a balance but unfortunately there is not and much of the blame for this lies with ridiculous political correctness enforced by hand wringing idiots ever since the mid 1980's and pushed to the extremes by so called "New Labour".
You tell someone they can't do or say something they are more likely to think about doing it, come out in favour of one group at a cost to another and you are going to see resentment. As Kenty pointed out earlier, a black man and an Asian woman told the QT panel it was not "racist" to discuss immigration. This worked out well for everyone because it appears to have opened up the debate. But had it been two white people who said that they would have been criticised and ignored. Is it not "racist" that the opinions of two people were only acceptable because of their skin colour or ethnicity?
That to me was proof that liberals in glass houses are throwing stones and getting away with it. And yes, nearly all the people responsible for the mess this country is in are white British lefty liberals, and that includes the immigration problems.

Would that be like the natural instinct to cull weak and infirm?or the natural instinct to kill the young of others to allow a better chance of survival for ones own?we're a little bit far down the line to be saying that natural is always right
I do understand what you are saying, but basic human instinct will always be present no matter how advanced we become as a civilisation. What I was trying to say is that the ruling class are telling us what we can and can't do, say, or write. If they could they would scan our brains to see if they can find any prohibited thoughts to prosecute us for.
I do believe in euthanasia to a point, ie putting a suffering person or animal out of it's misery. But I certainly don't agree with murder of any kind, I wouldn't cull a seal let alone a human.