I have always wondered how the disciples got thier names,
James
John
Andrew
Philip Nathanael
Thomas Didymous
Matthew Levi
James
Jude Thaddeus
Simon The Zealot
Judas Iscariot
Mathias
Bartholamew
I mean they are'nt exactly synonymous with the names of the middle east region are they ?
and who was the thirteenth disciple/appostle ? Mathias having been chosen by the other 11 after the demise of Judas Iscariot.
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can someone enlighten me
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Master of Sex
someone made them up?
I imagine, like lots of names and words over the centuries, they have been adapted. If we are to assume that Jesus et al actually existed, then perhaps the disciples' names are versions of the originals that were more appealing to the book's target audience?
Naturally, for those that believe the book to be a work of fiction, then the characters' names are not much different to any other .... didn't Shakespeare make up loads of words that probably meant nowt at the time?
Naturally, for those that believe the book to be a work of fiction, then the characters' names are not much different to any other .... didn't Shakespeare make up loads of words that probably meant nowt at the time?
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In English we've always tended to translate the names of foreign historical figures into English, and most other languages do the same. For example we learn in history about Joan of Arc, and Christopher Columbus, not Jeanne d'Arc or Christoforo Colombo. In the same way the disciples in the New Testament all had names in Hebrew, and/or in some cases Greek and Aramaic, but we know them best by their names translated into English.
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I imagine, like lots of names and words over the centuries, they have been adapted. If we are to assume that Jesus et al actually existed, then perhaps the disciples' names are versions of the originals that were more appealing to the book's target audience?
Naturally, for those that believe the book to be a work of fiction, then the characters' names are not much different to any other .... didn't Shakespeare make up loads of words that probably meant nowt at the time?
If they were adapted why were they only adapted in part and only some of them ? I mean Judas Iscariot sounds pretty local, Mathias perhaps a version of Mathew but more typical of the area.
Thomas. He was also called Didymus which is the Greek version of his name.
Philip. From Bethsaida, as were Andrew and Peter. Eventually martyred, possibly at Hierapolis.
Simon. More generally known as Peter. The brother of Andrew. A fisherman from the Sea of Galilee. Considered to be the most impulsive of the group, always ready to speak up, and swing a sword on occasion (e.g. the cutting off of a man's ear at the time of Jesus' arrest - see The Fateful Night). Some traditions hold that he was eventually crucified, upside down, by the Romans. There has been a very long debate as to whether or not he was actually the first pope.
Thaddaeus. Also known as "Judas the brother of James;" while John probably referring to the same person, speaks of "Judas, not Iscariot."
Personally I do not believe the Bible to be a work of fiction but neither do I believe that Jesus was the son of God, I believe the more recent theory that Jesus was a "very nice man" who had some nice ideas about how people should conduct themselves in society, that he talked of the God he believed in, and like many famous/infamous leaders he had a way with words and a way of making people believe what he said. The bible I think is just a clever mans interpretation of what was happening at the time with a few embelishments as always happy when legends are born.
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Dean,
as his mom was often wont to say, he's no messiah, he's a very naughty boy
as his mom was often wont to say, he's no messiah, he's a very naughty boy
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well...i have it on good authority, that actually Matthews mom wanted to called him
poppy babycakes buttercup !!! but his dad was haveing none of it...and quickly baptised him matty before his Mom had a chance !!!
Best response I have ever read in the forums and there have been some good'uns
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Dean,
as his mom was often wont to say, he's no messiah, he's a very naughty boy
Thats cos it was easy to get tickets for the Stoning, it's not like getting Olympic games tickets is it, still I am glad the meek are getting something cos they have a helluva time, and for pitys sake dont have a go at the birds they are NOT scroungers
Sexlightened
I blame the parents
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But what did the Romans ever do for us?
Make pegs, sell lucky heather........................oh bollox spotted you said Romans not Romanys
:doh:
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I have always wondered how the disciples got thier names,
James
John
Andrew
Philip Nathanael
Thomas Didymous
Matthew Levi
James
Jude Thaddeus
Simon The Zealot
Judas Iscariot
Mathias
Bartholamew
I mean they are'nt exactly synonymous with the names of the middle east region are they ?
and who was the thirteenth disciple/appostle ? Mathias having been chosen by the other 11 after the demise of Judas Iscariot.
Probably names adapted at this time;
there is a theory about the 13th disciple
it is said by some that the 13th was mary magdelene - and that the catholic church for reasons of their own wrote her out of this role during bible translation over a number of years.
there are supposedly old papyrus scripts in existance which postulate this theory but they are subject to so much interpretation and ambiguous translation that it is unclear wether or not they are accurate
in the end history is written by the winners and so it would seem are legends/fables and other stories loosely based on some truth and/or lies
it is said by some that the 13th was mary magdelene - and that the catholic church for reasons of their own wrote her out of this role during bible translation over a number of years.
there are supposedly old papyrus scripts in existance which postulate this theory but they are subject to so much interpretation and ambiguous translation that it is unclear wether or not they are accurate
in the end history is written by the winners and so it would seem are legends/fables and other stories loosely based on some truth and/or lies
Sex God
Cos its all made up bolox 
i'm suprised Hollywood haven't renamed them Brad, Chuck, Larry, Bo, Newt, Chub ........
i'm suprised Hollywood haven't renamed them Brad, Chuck, Larry, Bo, Newt, Chub ........
Master of Sex
that's a bit harsh. true,but harsh lol
