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Orgasminator
It's not just her that needs holding to task for this, it's the 'person' filming it too.
The worry with this is that it could be seen as the new thing to do. It's obviously only been done to be filmed.
Horrible horrible people!
The worry with this is that it could be seen as the new thing to do. It's obviously only been done to be filmed.
Horrible horrible people!
Sex God
Quote by vampanya
It's not just her that needs holding to task for this, it's the 'person' filming it too.
The worry with this is that it could be seen as the new thing to do. It's obviously only been done to be filmed.
Horrible horrible people!
Yes indeed
Sex God
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Now dogs in the river
Is that a new UB40 song? Is it the follow up to Rat in the Kitchen?
Dave_Notts
Where is the tumble weed icon? :lol: Orgasminator
There should be one!
Sex God
I don't feel there's any real purpose to be gained from the rspca pursuing this any further. She's been identified, ridiculed and hung-drawn-quartered by the press for her silliness - that's punishment enough in my view and there are far worse things going on around us.
Sex God
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I don't feel there's any real purpose to be gained from the rspca pursuing this any further. She's been identified, ridiculed and hung-drawn-quartered by the press for her silliness - that's punishment enough in my view and there are far worse things going on around us.
And there are far worse things being done to adults and children too. Maybe people should apply a bot of perspective and save the vitriol for the scum that abuse their 'loved ones' on a daily basis.
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And there are far worse things being done to adults and children too. Maybe people should apply a bot of perspective and save the vitriol for the scum that abuse their 'loved ones' on a daily basis.
Yes that is true but there are laws to protect adults and children.
Had the animal died in that bin, the law would have probably fined her 50 poxy quid.
She is getting what she deserves and I just love the overused word on here " vitriol ".
Sex God
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And there are far worse things being done to adults and children too. Maybe people should apply a bot of perspective and save the vitriol for the scum that abuse their 'loved ones' on a daily basis.
Yes that is true but there are laws to protect adults and children.
Had the animal died in that bin, the law would have probably fined her 50 poxy quid.
She is getting what she deserves and I just love the overused word on here " vitriol ".
Shame there are no laws that require the owners of cats to control them. When the shit on my lawn there is absolutely nothing the law can or will do about it. And, yes, I have no doubt everyone on here who owns cats will swear in their Grannies bones that their cats are disease-free. But there is actually no way of telling without blood tests. Toxoplasmosis does not affect normally the animal - it just harms humans, spicifically by killing unborn babies. That alone is a reason - in my mind to require cats to be kept off other people's land.
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Quote by foxylady2209
And there are far worse things being done to adults and children too. Maybe people should apply a bot of perspective and save the vitriol for the scum that abuse their 'loved ones' on a daily basis.
Yes that is true but there are laws to protect adults and children.
Had the animal died in that bin, the law would have probably fined her 50 poxy quid.
She is getting what she deserves and I just love the overused word on here " vitriol ".
Shame there are no laws that require the owners of cats to control them. When the shit on my lawn there is absolutely nothing the law can or will do about it. And, yes, I have no doubt everyone on here who owns cats will swear in their Grannies bones that their cats are disease-free. But there is actually no way of telling without blood tests. Toxoplasmosis does not affect normally the animal - it just harms humans, spicifically by killing unborn babies. That alone is a reason - in my mind to require cats to be kept off other people's land.
For the background to these statements - and
Pigeons are the other hazard... great carriers of disease!
Sex God
Quote by foxylady2209
And there are far worse things being done to adults and children too. Maybe people should apply a bot of perspective and save the vitriol for the scum that abuse their 'loved ones' on a daily basis.
Yes that is true but there are laws to protect adults and children.
Had the animal died in that bin, the law would have probably fined her 50 poxy quid.
She is getting what she deserves and I just love the overused word on here " vitriol ".
Shame there are no laws that require the owners of cats to control them. When the shit on my lawn there is absolutely nothing the law can or will do about it. And, yes, I have no doubt everyone on here who owns cats will swear in their Grannies bones that their cats are disease-free. But there is actually no way of telling without blood tests. Toxoplasmosis does not affect normally the animal - it just harms humans, spicifically by killing unborn babies. That alone is a reason - in my mind to require cats to be kept off other people's land.
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Not the ideal answer but could be of some help to some people
As I have said Blue, there are deterrents out there, whether any of them work is open to conjecture.
I have the up most sympathy with people who have cats coming into their gardens, but the law does protect the cat whatever anyone may think to the contrary.
Then of course you will then get some people who will argue why should they have to spend money keeping other peoples animals out of their gardens.
A valid point but where else is the answer, without a change to the law?
I have the up most sympathy with people who have cats coming into their gardens, but the law does protect the cat whatever anyone may think to the contrary.
Then of course you will then get some people who will argue why should they have to spend money keeping other peoples animals out of their gardens.
A valid point but where else is the answer, without a change to the law?
Orgasminator
Deterents do work. I regularly bought my neighbour pellets to sprinkle around his garden. It doesnt stop the cats going through it but it stops them sniffing around and using his garden as a toilet. Works a treat!
There are loads of other deterents about too, I dont know too much about the infra red ones but if they are that much of a nuisance to you they might be worth consideration.
There are loads of websites on how to keep cats out of your garden using household things too. Fencing isn't the only way. It's pretty easy to make your garden less attractive to use.
There are loads of other deterents about too, I dont know too much about the infra red ones but if they are that much of a nuisance to you they might be worth consideration.
There are loads of websites on how to keep cats out of your garden using household things too. Fencing isn't the only way. It's pretty easy to make your garden less attractive to use.
Sex God
Quote by vampanya
Deterents do work. I regularly bought my neighbour pellets to sprinkle around his garden. It doesnt stop the cats going through it but it stops them sniffing around and using his garden as a toilet. Works a treat!
There are loads of other deterents about too, I dont know too much about the infra red ones but if they are that much of a nuisance to you they might be worth consideration.
There are loads of websites on how to keep cats out of your garden using household things too. Fencing isn't the only way. It's pretty easy to make your garden less attractive to use.
Sure, I could tarmac it - lovely. That really isn't the point. If my neighbour lets their dog shit in my garden they can be prosecuted. But if it's their cat they won't. The damage is the same - the disgusting smell is just as unacceptable. The law is outdated and people hide behind it. Basic good manners and good citizenship means animal owners should prevent their animals being a nuiscance full stop. My neighbour having an animal should not force me to incur extra expense to deal with it.
Orgasminator
Well if you DO want to do anything about the problem there are plenty of things you can do. I was just trying to offer some helpful suggestions. I guess it depends how much the principal of not spending a few quid to sort out the problem is worth. Personally if it were that upsetting I'd say cat repelant was well worth it. It works very well. And would be much easier than getting the law changed.
Orgasminator
Mary Bale has been fined £250 and banned from keeping animals for 5 years! That's not too over the top now is it!
Orgasminator
Its still a ban though. It's more of a prevention of cruelty than a punishment.
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If I understood it correctly, she doesn't even like animals so banning her for 5 years is somewhat meaningless.
Bang on the money GNV.
What good will giving her a ban serve?
As she obviously does not like animals, maybe a three grand fine would have been more appropriate.
Remember it was only because the owners checked the cctv that the animal survived.....it could well have died otherwise.
I think the fine is a pathetic joke but what do you expect from our laws and courts????
Another fucking judge in another world!!
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If I understood it correctly, she doesn't even like animals so banning her for 5 years is somewhat meaningless.
Bang on the money GNV.
What good will giving her a ban serve?
As she obviously does not like animals, maybe a three grand fine would have been more appropriate.
Remember it was only because the owners checked the cctv that the animal survived.....it could well have died otherwise.
I think the fine is a pathetic joke but what do you expect from our laws and courts????
Another fucking judge in another world!!
I suppose the reasoning is that she could own an animal with the sole purpose of being cruel to it. If she would have been hit with a massive fine but not banned from keeping animals the magistrate would have been criticised for that.
I know you love your pound of flesh Kenty, but the damage that has (rightly) been done to her reputation and standing in the community from the huge publicity associated with this case is far more effective than any fine. She will forever be known to those who know her, and many others as well, as the woman who dumped a cat in a bin.
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I know you love your pound of flesh Kenty, but the damage that has (rightly) been done to her reputation and standing in the community from the huge publicity associated with this case is far more effective than any fine. She will forever be known to those who know her, and many others as well, as the woman who dumped a cat in a bin.
It has nothing to do with wanting my pound of flesh...it is about what is right and proper.
Yes I am sure that she will be known as the vicious nasty cow, who dumped a friendly cat into a bin, and rightly so.
She will have to live with those consequences for years to come, so maybe that is her punishment, but just in case that does not bother her then a good heavy fine would have been in order too.
Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
I know you love your pound of flesh Kenty, but the damage that has (rightly) been done to her reputation and standing in the community from the huge publicity associated with this case is far more effective than any fine. She will forever be known to those who know her, and many others as well, as the woman who dumped a cat in a bin.
It has nothing to do with wanting my pound of flesh...it is about what is right and proper.
Yes I am sure that she will be known as the vicious nasty cow, who dumped a friendly cat into a bin, and rightly so.
She will have to live with those consequences for years to come, so maybe that is her punishment, but just in case that does not bother her then a good heavy fine would have been in order too.
Seriously - you reckon a ruined career and a life of misery plus a fine is due payment for a cat spending a few hours in a bin? Jeez - that's severe.
Maybe the RSPCA would be able to answer your reply a bit better???
Or better still look under animal cruelty !!! Must not forget the customary exclamation marks!!
Have a little read of this and get some enlightenment....
" Acts of intentional cruelty are often some of the most disturbing and should be considered signs of serious psychological problems. This type of behavior is often associated with sociopathic behavior and should be taken very seriously ".
Or better still look under animal cruelty !!! Must not forget the customary exclamation marks!!
Have a little read of this and get some enlightenment....
" Acts of intentional cruelty are often some of the most disturbing and should be considered signs of serious psychological problems. This type of behavior is often associated with sociopathic behavior and should be taken very seriously ".
Orgasminator
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Seriously - you reckon a ruined career and a life of misery plus a fine is due payment for a cat spending a few hours in a bin? Jeez - that's severe.
No, I agree Foxy that is far too harsh. But that's what trial by media is. The punishment the court issued was more reasonable. IMO the fine was fair. The ban might seem a bit silly and pointless - but I think it's fair too. Just because she personally is unlikly to want to keep an animal doesn't mean that the ban shouldnt have been issued. It's probably according to punishment guidelines. It prevents her keeping one - even if she does decide to.
In edit - what i was trying to say (but worded badly) was that the judge will have followed sentencing guidelines and that the ban would probably have been part of that. Also the fine was probably relative too, no actual harm came to the cat otherwise Im sure the fine would have been more. So it's fair. The media frenzy thats fucked up her life isn't controlled by guidelines. She will be subjected to whatever the papers and the public deem just. That's not so fair.
Sex God
We back on this one? Bloody cats, the only mistake she made was getting caught 
Orgasminator
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We back on this one? Bloody cats, the only mistake she made was getting caught
Yup - back on this one cos it was on the news today :wink:
