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Quote by flower411
Anybody looking for a tour lol
I could take you to streets, just like the ones Steve describes, in East Malling, Strood, Snodland and Gillingham . Easy to visit in one day and I`m sure we could discover more on route.
Nobody has suggested that all claimants are scroungers. As far as I can see there is only one person getting confused.

Trust you as always the predictable. :sleeping:
Quote by Steve
Your wasting your time FB...
Unless I go and get sworn affidavits he won't believe a word I/you/we say....
Think he's just bored and posting to find himself something to do...

So Steve as you are soooo convinced of these people, are you going to report them? I mean seeing as you are the social expert on people's lives and what they do with them, I would think you would do the decent thing?
I wonder if the Job Centre will believe you though....what you think?
Good luck.:thumbup:
Quote by starlightcouple

Your wasting your time FB...
Unless I go and get sworn affidavits he won't believe a word I/you/we say....
Think he's just bored and posting to find himself something to do...

So Steve as you are soooo convinced of these people, are you going to report them? I mean seeing as you are the social expert on people's lives and what they do with them, I would think you would do the decent thing?
I wonder if the Job Centre will believe you though....what you think?
Good luck.:thumbup:
Is it illegal to be a single mum on benefits now then? Wow - things are moving fast now. Can't keep up.
Quote by Too Hot
Is it illegal to be a single mum on benefits now then? Wow - things are moving fast now. Can't keep up.

Who said they were single Mums and on benefits?
But maybe they are single Mums with four kids each from four different Fathers, who have another partner living with them and saying they are living alone? I mean these people are everywhere so surely they will be easy to spot and easier to nick? You know the ones, drinking and swearing and generally just being, well layabouts living the good life on the benefit system. rolleyes
The Sun newspaper sure have created a vision eh?
To my mind there are a few issues here, please bear with me.
Star: At no point has anyone called you a scrounger. You may rant and rave at them all you like, but it's as plain as the nose on your face that no one has called you a scrounger.
The trouble is that there are genuine cases, and some not so genuine. Many people will know of someone working the 16 hours scam whereby they cant work more or they lose benefits, so they don't.
There are generalisations made and advocated by the press- And no one denies that, but those generalisations don't in my opinion stand for all of society.
TH: I agree, the opportunities are there and people must grab them. However I'm afraid that your past naivety has lost you any moral high ground as far as I am concerned when it comes to the welfare state.
Star (again) with a good credit rating there are employment opportunities that are not down to luck, birth, breeding or whatever you want to call it.
TH: Could you offer star a job? Wouldn't that be something?
drinkies Ah come on ! Make friends, life's too short.
Quote by starlightcouple

Your wasting your time FB...
Unless I go and get sworn affidavits he won't believe a word I/you/we say....
Think he's just bored and posting to find himself something to do...

So Steve as you are soooo convinced of these people, are you going to report them? I mean seeing as you are the social expert on people's lives and what they do with them, I would think you would do the decent thing?
I wonder if the Job Centre will believe you though....what you think?
Good luck.:thumbup:
Report them for what dunno
Being on benefits and playing (and being allowed to play) the system :dunno:
Maybe you ought to consider doing some voluntary work until your situation improves ?
A local animal shelter perhaps...
I work 50/60 hours a week and am still finding a cpl of hours to help at a local animal rescue...
It's very rewarding and gives you a new outlook on life...
Maybe you ought to try it :thumbup:
Quote by Steve
Report them for what dunno
Being on benefits and playing (and being allowed to play) the system :dunno:

Well you and others obviously believe the press reports so when you do see people during the day you naturally think they are all benefit scroungers, and playing the system. Also the press will have us believe it is so widespread that a huge percentage of them are not only playing the system, but are probably on some form of benefit that they are not entitled too. I mean some of these people you see during the day may be on a sickness benefit of some sort and have indicated to the Social that they are almost an invalid and can hardly walk. Without at least saying something to the Job centre makes you a bit of a hypocrite surely? And if they are doing something they should not be and you bring it to others attention and they get found out, then surely you will be saving the taxpayer a few bob as well. I mean the call is anonymous as well, and also a free call so what are you waiting for? You have nothing to lose do you?
Quote by Steve
Maybe you ought to consider doing some voluntary work until your situation improves ?
A local animal shelter perhaps...
I work 50/60 hours a week and am still finding a cpl of hours to help at a local animal rescue...
It's very rewarding and gives you a new outlook on life...
Maybe you ought to try it :thumbup:

Steve you are so funny, do you actually look back at what you write and how it makes you look? And now the guy does does a 60 hour week and has time to look after fluffy bunnies. worship:worship:
But for the record Steve I do give up a few hours a week at my Fathers care home in Woolwich. Depends on the work involved but usually about 11 hours spread out over six days. Very rewarding that is as well but sorry would not possibly have the time if I was working 60 hours a week though, but I do what I can. There is that ok for you?
Quote by flower411
I speak as I see.

Careful as the ' member is inactive ' usually follows that as you are aware of I understand. :notes:
Quote by starlightcouple

Report them for what dunno
Being on benefits and playing (and being allowed to play) the system :dunno:

Well you and others obviously believe the press reports so when you do see people during the day you naturally think they are all benefit scroungers, and playing the system. Also the press will have us believe it is so widespread that a huge percentage of them are not only playing the system, but are probably on some form of benefit that they are not entitled too. I mean some of these people you see during the day may be on a sickness benefit of some sort and have indicated to the Social that they are almost an invalid and can hardly walk. Without at least saying something to the Job centre makes you a bit of a hypocrite surely? And if they are doing something they should not be and you bring it to others attention and they get found out, then surely you will be saving the taxpayer a few bob as well. I mean the call is anonymous as well, and also a free call so what are you waiting for? You have nothing to lose do you?
Press reports ?
I'm not the one who constantly quotes press articles on this the and the other...
I don't read newspapers and only bother to watch my local news reports in the evening before I go to work so as to keep abreast of things happening in my local area....
As I've already said....You won't believe me or anyone else that has said these areas/people exist so I see no point in labouring the subject even further to be honest...
Quote by starlightcouple
Maybe you ought to consider doing some voluntary work until your situation improves ?
A local animal shelter perhaps...
I work 50/60 hours a week and am still finding a cpl of hours to help at a local animal rescue...
It's very rewarding and gives you a new outlook on life...
Maybe you ought to try it :thumbup:

Steve you are so funny, do you actually look back at what you write and how it makes you look? And now the guy does does a 60 hour week and has time to look after fluffy bunnies. worship:worship:
But for the record Steve I do give up a few hours a week at my Fathers care home in Woolwich. Depends on the work involved but usually about 11 hours spread out over six days. Very rewarding that is as well but sorry would not possibly have the time if I was working 60 hours a week though, but I do what I can. There is that ok for you?
Why does me volunteering to help at an animal rescue make me appear funny :dunno:
Did I mention specifically "fluffy bunnies" ?
Pretty sure I didn't....
For the record I do ,myself, have a pet rabbit but I don't see that that has any bearing on the conversation....
I work 50/60 hours per week so on a week where I only do 50 that would still leave me 10hrs (which is almost as much as you donate to the care facility) so I guess on those weeks we're about even...
In fact I don't give anywhere near that amount of time....Possibly 3 or 4 hours on Sunday's but every little helps huh....
Regardless of how much time I spend at work I can always find an hour or two to help those in need ....
There is that ok for you ?
Methinks this thread is descending rapidly to that happy hunting ground in the SH locked archives.....
oh well....looks like another 800 at honda becoming scroungers......looks like over 1000 from jessops now becoming scroungers....and as over 200 fire stations in london to close after april, I guess soon another 500 or so Firemen becoming scroungers.
99% of people out of work, want to work.....fact is there is very little work out there. I found myself out of work for the first time two years ago. Luckily for me it was only 3 months....but as I have 30 years experiance in what I think most would call a professional field, I did think I would have no problem finding another job. But I was on agency books and nothing there. I was ringing up companies I knew....so many said love to take you on....but just nothing there. So many companies now , when someone leaves, they simply re-distribute that job to others already working there, and don't take anyone new on. There are actually very, very few true scroungers out there. When there are an abundance of available jobs, then have a go at the unemployed. Until till....mabe a a dollop of " there but the grace of god go I ", may be worth considering.
Best not to ask as flower says, as a hoof in the nuts often offends :grin:
Oh dear yet another newspaper link rolleyes

Seems some people see things and others do not, but a very interesting article if you read ALL of it. :thumbup:
Quote by Trevaunance
TH: I agree, the opportunities are there and people must grab them. However I'm afraid that your past naivety has lost you any moral high ground as far as I am concerned when it comes to the welfare state.
TH: Could you offer star a job? Wouldn't that be something?

Lost moral high ground? Eh?
No I would not give Star or anyone with a negative outlook a job. I do employ people who have a positive mental attitude and a hunger for success.
Quote by starlightcouple
Oh dear yet another newspaper link rolleyes

Seems some people see things and others do not, but a very interesting article if you read ALL of it. :thumbup:

Sorry star, I did read all of it and the final sentence left the article with little credibility.
Hardly surprising so, given it's source.
Quote by GnV
Oh dear yet another newspaper link rolleyes

Seems some people see things and others do not, but a very interesting article if you read ALL of it. :thumbup:

Sorry star, I did read all of it and the final sentence left the article with little credibility.
Hardly surprising so, given it's source.
Agreed, GNV.
And yes Star, I read all of the article.
I personally prefer to understand the spoken word of the people I come into every day, no matter which one of my two jobs I am working. I have always found that personal experience is adamn good leveller, rather than the popular press.
Quote by GnV
Oh dear yet another newspaper link rolleyes

Seems some people see things and others do not, but a very interesting article if you read ALL of it. :thumbup:

Sorry star, I did read all of it and the final sentence left the article with little credibility.
Hardly surprising so, given it's source.
Fair comment. rotflmao