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I am not questioning the rights and wrongs of fund allocation I, as I said am merely quoting what was discussed in the news report.
But if you want a personal opinion mine would be that it is a little tactless by the government to announce payments to one sector of the community hit by flooding and regarding the future of the problem not the present situation.
People who have suffered the trauma and devastation of being flooded will no doubt be worried about the future and worried that they may be overlooked in prevention funding, Somerset may have been more affected and more homes devastated but I am sure those t'up Norf will feel that while there are less of them they are equally vulnerable and equally devastated and hoping for some financial assistance in preventing future repeats of what happened.
We are not talking about compensation which may be allocated based on length of time of the suffering and not the devastation caused we are talking about money being allocated to prevent future problems.
It just might have been more prudent as part of the statement to say something to the effect of "we will be looking at measures to prevent flooding in other areas of the Country as well as prevention funds for the Somerset area which has been hit the most"
But if you want a personal opinion mine would be that it is a little tactless by the government to announce payments to one sector of the community hit by flooding and regarding the future of the problem not the present situation.
People who have suffered the trauma and devastation of being flooded will no doubt be worried about the future and worried that they may be overlooked in prevention funding, Somerset may have been more affected and more homes devastated but I am sure those t'up Norf will feel that while there are less of them they are equally vulnerable and equally devastated and hoping for some financial assistance in preventing future repeats of what happened.
We are not talking about compensation which may be allocated based on length of time of the suffering and not the devastation caused we are talking about money being allocated to prevent future problems.
It just might have been more prudent as part of the statement to say something to the effect of "we will be looking at measures to prevent flooding in other areas of the Country as well as prevention funds for the Somerset area which has been hit the most"
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It just might have been more prudent as part of the statement to say something to the effect of "we will be looking at measures to prevent flooding in other areas of the Country as well as prevention funds for the Somerset area which has been hit the most"
Surely this is what county councils should be doing and address these issues before the occur with the help of the EA and instead of crying about no budget, put a decent business case together?
Central government shouldn't be paying out for it, it should come from the businesses in charge, and if they have to go in to the red because of it then so be it.
I disagree, the burden on some Councils would be far too great, Somerset being a prime example, here in Stoke on Trent there has been no flooding to my knowledge, down the road in Stafford they have had problems in some areas for a hundred years regardless of the level of rainfall.
This is however something that affects the whole Country, although we have had no flooding here, our taxes will be used in compensation payments and for future preventative measures around the Nation, and justly so (well the preventative measures at least there would be no need for compensation if prevention was carried out).
Therefore it should be dealt with at a National level. Much as I do not support the actions of the businesses involved, ie the water companies, I do not think it is part of their agenda to dredge rivers or build flood barriers, their remit surely is to supply the Nation with the best quality water in adequate quantities all year round and to dispose of waste water and waste products efficiently.
This is however something that affects the whole Country, although we have had no flooding here, our taxes will be used in compensation payments and for future preventative measures around the Nation, and justly so (well the preventative measures at least there would be no need for compensation if prevention was carried out).
Therefore it should be dealt with at a National level. Much as I do not support the actions of the businesses involved, ie the water companies, I do not think it is part of their agenda to dredge rivers or build flood barriers, their remit surely is to supply the Nation with the best quality water in adequate quantities all year round and to dispose of waste water and waste products efficiently.
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Therefore it should be dealt with at a National level. Much as I do not support the actions of the businesses involved, ie the water companies, I do not think it is part of their agenda to dredge rivers or build flood barriers, their remit surely is to supply the Nation with the best quality water in adequate quantities all year round and to dispose of waste water and waste products efficiently.
So which companies handle water run off...?
oh yes that's right the water companies, the companies that take this run off, purify and sell it back to us...their job is to manage, county councils job is to maintain, EA is to advise and maintain, farmers job, as custodians of the land, is to maintain...
Accountability and responsibility, its all well and good making a profit, but lets see some of that pumped back in (pun wholly intended)
I did say weeks ago that I thought the water companies should be putting more of their profits back into the product they make it from, but I would rather see them invest in more reservoirs so we always have an adequate supply of water and improving our sewage removal systems especially where it is currently just dumped untreated into the sea not far offshore and in our Victorian sewers which might not last much longer in some areas.
I said back then that the water companies profits are higher than predicted when they took over and payments to investors are way above expectations.
I said back then that the water companies profits are higher than predicted when they took over and payments to investors are way above expectations.
Sex God
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But if you want a personal opinion mine would be that it is a little tactless by the government to announce payments to one sector of the community hit by flooding and regarding the future of the problem not the present situation.
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It just might have been more prudent as part of the statement to say something to the effect of "we will be looking at measures to prevent flooding in other areas of the Country as well as prevention funds for the Somerset area which has been hit the most"
Did you not read what you copied?
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Standing in for Environment Secretary Owen Paterson who was rushed to hospital overnight for emergency eye surgery, Communities Secretary Eric Pickles announced new £130m funding to repair damaged flood defences and outlined plans to 42 new flood defence schemes that will be completed during this parliament.
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Pickles also announced further details on the government's pipeline of new flood defence schemes, confirming that 42 new schemes will be delivered in 2014 and 2015, including projects to protect homes in Salford, Clacton and Willerby. And he confirmed plans for a new six year programme of flood protection projects would be announced by the autumn, confirming "record levels of capital investment in improving defences" that would rise to £400m a year by the end of the decade.
A quick and easy search shows that some of the other schemes are:
£9.4 million Port Clarence and Greatham scheme in Teesside which will improve protection to 350 homes from flooding;
£4 million scheme in Croston, Lancashire which will improve protection to 460 homes from the River Yarrow; and
£2.5 million scheme on the Upper River Tame in Titford, which will improve protection to 150 homes.
That's all good news for those affected but you might recall that in my earlier posts I did not say I was concerned about where the aid would be given, I merely repeated what was said in the TV News report where some people outside the Somerset area voiced concerns as to what if any % of financial help their area would receive, a simple search did not at that time bring up that information for me and by the sound of it not for them either ?
Stoke on Trent where I live had no flooding, of course the money comes from taxes and the whole Nation will be paying but that is as it should be.
Stoke on Trent where I live had no flooding, of course the money comes from taxes and the whole Nation will be paying but that is as it should be.
Sex God
Yes I do recall you saying that people up north were concerned that they weren't going to be seeing any benefit from an announcement of funds for the Somerset levels. But that goes to show how stupid they are.
I also recall you saying that it was wrong not to have mentioned other parts of the country in the announcement on the Somerset levels, despite the fact that there was mention of other parts of the country in your own pasting of the announcement.
Im suprised you couldn't carry out a simple search and find information, it has been freely available to me and predates your own posting so must have been available at the time.
So it would appear that the rest of the country had announcements made for it some time ago, and in fact it is Somerset that has been left behind again.
I also recall you saying that it was wrong not to have mentioned other parts of the country in the announcement on the Somerset levels, despite the fact that there was mention of other parts of the country in your own pasting of the announcement.
Im suprised you couldn't carry out a simple search and find information, it has been freely available to me and predates your own posting so must have been available at the time.
So it would appear that the rest of the country had announcements made for it some time ago, and in fact it is Somerset that has been left behind again.
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Yes I do recall you saying that people up north were concerned that they weren't going to be seeing any benefit from an announcement of funds for the Somerset levels. But that goes to show how stupid they are.
I also recall you saying that it was wrong not to have mentioned other parts of the country in the announcement on the Somerset levels, despite the fact that there was mention of other parts of the country in your own pasting of the announcement.
Im suprised you couldn't carry out a simple search and find information, it has been freely available to me and predates your own posting so must have been available at the time.
ITV
Tradesworld
Western morning news
New zealand
So it would appear that the rest of the country had announcements made for it some time ago, and in fact it is Somerset that has been left behind again.
Well don't blame me blame the BBC for the way they reported it giving the impression to not only me but obviously to those who felt left out that they had been omitted, a good reporter would have said to those people "but details of the measures taken for your area have already been announced" when the people said what they said to them, but there again we all know that reporters do like to be controversial and have been known to leave bits out in order to make news
Sex God
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Well don't blame me blame the BBC for the way they reported it giving the impression to not only me but obviously to those who felt left out that they had been omitted, a good reporter would have said to those people "but details of the measures taken for your area have already been announced" when the people said what they said to them, but there again we all know that reporters do like to be controversial and have been known to leave bits out in order to make news
I'm not blaming you, I'm educating and informing you.
Why don't we build a pipeline from Somerset to Somalia and pump our excess water there ?
Crazy idea eh! but is it ?
Somalia has had it's worst drought in 60 years, we have had our biggest rainfall in 60 years, so solution therefore is simple, save millions of lives sending our excess water there
Crazy ? Russia has gas pipelines going under the Black Sea to Germany and there are plans to have it extended to Norfolk in England, gas is a volatile and dangerous product as everyone knows, surely it would be easier to pump water a similar distance :lol:
Crazy idea eh! but is it ?
Somalia has had it's worst drought in 60 years, we have had our biggest rainfall in 60 years, so solution therefore is simple, save millions of lives sending our excess water there
Crazy ? Russia has gas pipelines going under the Black Sea to Germany and there are plans to have it extended to Norfolk in England, gas is a volatile and dangerous product as everyone knows, surely it would be easier to pump water a similar distance :lol:
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mate sold 2000 pairs of wellies on ebay.
and all that money given to africa so where is our sand?
Well all I can say is, you may not be a hoarder but I am damn sure your mate is
i think he got them for about £2 a pair and sold them for £10 each.
human nature to take advantage but not something id do.
I would not consider that taking advantage, it is being opportunist, sold at a reasonable price cheaper than ASDA (apart from one clearance line they have) so more of a service than taking advantage, it is when prices are inflated that it becomes a tad or a great deal immoral
The worst example I have seen of that (though I am sure there are worse) was a price increase from to in less than 4 hours, due to supply and demand.
Advantage taking would be hiking up the price of sandbags simply because of the situation buying sandbags cheaper than usual and selling them for the average price is simply good business practice.
The worst example I have seen of that (though I am sure there are worse) was a price increase from to in less than 4 hours, due to supply and demand.
Advantage taking would be hiking up the price of sandbags simply because of the situation buying sandbags cheaper than usual and selling them for the average price is simply good business practice.
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mate sold 2000 pairs of wellies on ebay.
and all that money given to africa so where is our sand?
Well all I can say is, you may not be a hoarder but I am damn sure your mate is
i think he got them for about £2 a pair and sold them for £10 each.
human nature to take advantage but not something id do.
I bet his post office or courier loved him. imagine wrapping them all and carting them to be weighed and stamped...
