It has all kicked off again between Millwall and Westham, why does this happen it is only a game?
I really can not understand the mentality of people that bring violence into sport or any other situation with in life, but to want to cause a fight within sport I just can not understand. Why is it you don’t have violence at cricket or rugby matches, but football always seems to bring out the worse in people at certain games?
I feel ashamed to say this is our national sport, give me cricket any day.
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Football voilence
Sex God
These aren't football fans. They are morons with no more brain than allows them to respond to every stimulas with the most base and violent response. Frankly part of their prison sentence (when caught) should be sterilisation.
Sex God
Tribalism at its most basic.
Sex God
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Tribalism at its most basic.
Love watching two fems tribalisming Phwooaaaaaarrrrrr!!
Master of Sex
Scientists say 'Let 'em fight'.
Did it in the 1980's when every club had it's crew, the police always had a bigger one though and still do. All I can say about the Millwall v West Ham thing is that someone who could have stopped it didn't. To put this as simplistically as I can, the reason this was such a shock is because rival fans are invariably kept apart, and The Metropolitan Police are among the very best at crowd control. This was deliberately allowed to happen and the reaction to it was anticipated, now all that remains to be seen is the planned solution.
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Did it in the 1980's when every club had it's crew, the police always had a bigger one though and still do. All I can say about the Millwall v West Ham thing is that someone who could have stopped it didn't. To put this as simplistically as I can, the reason this was such a shock is because rival fans are invariably kept apart, and The Metropolitan Police are among the very best at crowd control. This was deliberately allowed to happen and the reaction to it was anticipated, now all that remains to be seen is the planned solution.
I think they could be a slight exageration.
I used to follow Chelsea in the 70's and 80's when the football violence was at it's worst. Every week I saw the same old aggro, and when I went to away games it was worse.
The introduction of CCTV has helped to eradicate it from the grounds now, or virtually all of it. Outside the grounds CCTV is everywhere which has also helped.
The problem the other night was made worse by many factors. The internet and mobile phones are now a much better tool for the thugs, and these two clubs history of violence goes back forty years.
In the heady days of the 70's and the aggro that happened there were certain clubs with a bad reputation....Chelsea, West Ham, Millwall, Notts Forest and Leeds United. They were possibly the worst offenders of the football aggro with known levels of violence amongst it's fans.
The tie the other night was always going to turn into this but I think the ammount of people involved suprised the police. The clubs as far as I know did everything within their powers yet they will still be held accountable, which I think is wrong IF they have done everything that was asked of them.
With the greatest will in the world IF people are hell bent on causing trouble, then no matter what things you put into place it will not be enough.
There has been threads on here with some bleating on about CCTV being some kind of infringement on their civil liberties but....it will help to catch a lot of these ferel scumbags who were hell bent on flexing their weak mentality, right in front of a CCTV camera. Catch em....fine em.... and ban em....for good.
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Did it in the 1980's when every club had it's crew, the police always had a bigger one though and still do. All I can say about the Millwall v West Ham thing is that someone who could have stopped it didn't. To put this as simplistically as I can, the reason this was such a shock is because rival fans are invariably kept apart, and The Metropolitan Police are among the very best at crowd control. This was deliberately allowed to happen and the reaction to it was anticipated, now all that remains to be seen is the planned solution.
Now, I agree
: Everyone that knows their footie, knew fully that it
would kick-off in terms of aggro & violence.
Their are teams that just hate each other.
Then their are clubs with very hardcore fans, again that we all know about.
So, how the Met Police didn't realize that having this game played at 7:45pm would go off with incident, is foolish.
Maybe it was slackness but that's got to have you worried :shock:
I have always followed two clubs, one probably the best in the world the other punching well above it's weight in the Championship. Both have had reputations for violence and to me the aggro was an aside, a kind of hobby, while the game itself was and is of extreme importance to me. I never understood those who came just for a fight but didn't give a shit about the game they had paid to watch, I'll never understand that.
Some of the smaller (provincial) clubs, like those mentioned by kenty, had reputations for fighting, but I promise that the real aggro is and always was between Man United and Liverpool. Then there was the away matches in Europe, I remember it getting very dangerous one night in Turin.
What happened last week in London was predictable, but when you put it in context it was a big fuss about nothing. And yet again a so called newpaper (known to many as The Scum), has sensationalised the whole thing, and attempted to open a very old can of worms. I sincerely hope they have failed, football violence belongs in the past, especially now I'm too old to jog for bloody miles!! Lol
Some of the smaller (provincial) clubs, like those mentioned by kenty, had reputations for fighting, but I promise that the real aggro is and always was between Man United and Liverpool. Then there was the away matches in Europe, I remember it getting very dangerous one night in Turin.
What happened last week in London was predictable, but when you put it in context it was a big fuss about nothing. And yet again a so called newpaper (known to many as The Scum), has sensationalised the whole thing, and attempted to open a very old can of worms. I sincerely hope they have failed, football violence belongs in the past, especially now I'm too old to jog for bloody miles!! Lol
It's the age of some of these guys that make me laugh. Followed Man United as a youngster (the glory days of Dave Sexton!!) and the heads involved were in their twenties. On my very rare journeys to away matches these days I am amazed to see the same old faces cropping up. These lads must be grandads now.
As bad as the WHU/Millwall scenes were, thankfully they are very much a rarity.
As bad as the WHU/Millwall scenes were, thankfully they are very much a rarity.
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I never had an interest in football due to the violence. It seems the group psyche melds the crowds into a mindless raging mass of hate. Personal opinion of course from a rugby player lol
Back in the 80's I used to play rugby (league) and watch football. In them days they would call me the antipathy of a gentleman! lol
