good news or bad news (ARE WE BREAKING THE LAW)

24 Sep 2010

Quote by flower411
Yeah !! That Freckledbird huh !! Bloody troublemaker she is :giggle:

OI! Good girl, me :angel:
I only asked an hypothetical question for discussion dunno

The only women I've ever seen in there, were asian. The English women just swim with the rest of the people in normal swimming sessions.

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Freckledbird

Yeah !! That Freckledbird huh !! Bloody troublemaker she is :giggle:

OI! Good girl, me :angel:
I only asked an hypothetical question for discussion dunno

The only women I've ever seen in there, were asian. The English women just swim with the rest of the people in normal swimming sessions.
They're not naughty teenagers by any chance?

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Mr-Powers

Yeah !! That Freckledbird huh !! Bloody troublemaker she is :giggle:

OI! Good girl, me :angel:
I only asked an hypothetical question for discussion dunno

The only women I've ever seen in there, were asian. The English women just swim with the rest of the people in normal swimming sessions.
They're not naughty teenagers by any chance?
lol

nope, and they even take off their burqas to swim.

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
That would be fine as they are a " minority "....cannot upset them now....can we? :twisted:

There are more men than women in the country,so no they arent.
What has that got to do with what I was replying too? loon

Re read FB's post............Asian is a bit of a clue. :twisted:
The sessions are women only,not Asian only,the fact Asian women use them is anecdotal.
So what has that got to do with your comments on there being more men than women? dunno

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
That would be fine as they are a " minority "....cannot upset them now....can we? :twisted:

There are more men than women in the country,so no they arent.
What has that got to do with what I was replying too? loon

Re read FB's post............Asian is a bit of a clue. :twisted:
The sessions are women only,not Asian only,the fact Asian women use them is anecdotal.
So what has that got to do with your comments on there being more men than women? dunno

because i fail to see why kenty needed to bring his minority bashing hobby horse out to play.
That still doesn't explain your comment, your comment contradicts itself, your saying "there are more men than women in the country, so no they arent"...what??...who??

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
At a swimming pool near to me, they have a women only swimming session, which is basically when about 40 asian women swim, with the blinds drawn at the windows. Will they still be able to do that, or will men have to be allowed? Say, a white christian male?

I have had to re quote FB again as Kaz just does not seem to comprehend what I said.
I really wish people would read others posts before making a complete fool of themselves................AGAIN.

Quote by Kazzy
because i fail to see why kenty needed to bring his minority bashing hobby horse out to play.

It was because of the above comment that is why, can you understand the context now or do I have to do it a bit simpler? lol

Oh and BTW....the " minority bashing hobby horse " as you so aptly put it, is my opinion and I do not agree with MINORITIES getting preferential treatment over the MAJORITY. That sweetie is called democracy, the very basic fundamentals of British politics......though you would never know that.

Quote by Kazzy
anecdotal

Now that is a word Benny uses a lot.....funny eh?:shock:
Said with the greatest of respect of course.

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
because i fail to see why kenty needed to bring his minority bashing hobby horse out to play.

24 Sep 2010

and you wonder why the site....saw fit to bring in the three strikes and your out rule !!!
This is a thread about the equal rights law...and how it might effect clubs....and by end of the third page has once again..slipped into petty, snide, patronizing back biting comments about each other.

24 Sep 2010

Quote by Mr-Powers
That would be fine as they are a " minority "....cannot upset them now....can we? :twisted:

There are more men than women in the country,so no they arent.
What has that got to do with what I was replying too? loon

Re read FB's post............Asian is a bit of a clue. :twisted:
The sessions are women only,not Asian only,the fact Asian women use them is anecdotal.
So what has that got to do with your comments on there being more men than women? dunno

because i fail to see why kenty needed to bring his minority bashing hobby horse out to play.
That still doesn't explain your comment, your comment contradicts itself, your saying "there are more men than women in the country, so no they arent"...what??...who??
Be careful Powers, you'll be accused of launching a personal attack next!! wink

24 Sep 2010

Quote by deancannock
and you wonder why the site....saw fit to bring in the three strikes and your out rule !!!
This is a thread about the equal rights law...and how it might effect clubs....and by end of the third page has once again..slipped into petty, snide, patronizing back biting comments about each other.

Topics ebb and flow from time to time, just like conversations do down the pub. You know you start off talking about Drogbas great goal, and within five minutes it has gone onto ladies stockings.
I see none of the things you have mentioned above, when someone makes a slightly derogatory comments of course it then can get a bit heated, but blimey if discussion never got heated what is the point?
You should look at Prime ministers questions time in the House....bickering and snide remarks all the time, and they are our elected MP's. wink

It happens and there has to be a bit of leeway when people discuss or argue.

24 Sep 2010

I always drink out of a plastic glass these days whilst responding to threads in the CA

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
and you wonder why the site....saw fit to bring in the three strikes and your out rule !!!
This is a thread about the equal rights law...and how it might effect clubs....and by end of the third page has once again..slipped into petty, snide, patronizing back biting comments about each other.

Such is life in SH forums and I wouldn't rely on the 3 strikes and out rule as its not worked so far.
As for the new law and the original topic of this thread, I have yet to see the wording of the law. If the new law has exemption clauses that include groups, association's or members clubs etc, then it may be that many of the said clubs or groups will have nothing to worry about. However, if the intent of the new law is to supersede any or most existing laws then I would suggest that the said clubs and groups etc will have to change their pricing policy.
Without reading and comprehending the law, and it is not posted in this topic surely any point made here is mute?
Do you mean 'moot'?
Dean already posted the link:

And how do you know that the threee strikes rule isn't working so far?

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
And how do you know that the threee strikes rule isn't working so far?

Cos he`s still here !! :giggle:
Because the forum Gestapo are still here
Can't say I am looking forward to meeting them

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
Because the forum Gestapo are still here

And who might the " Gestapo " be then?
Have the courage of your convictions to name names................Gestapo indeed.

25 Sep 2010

Islandcpl, given your constant reference to forum 'idiots', and the forum 'Gestapo' of late, and given that you have less than a month left of a membership that you have already said you do not intend to renew, would it be fair to say that you seem to trying to get some sort of reaction from other members by way of a few parting shots before your deactivation?
Some would call that trolling. Equally, some would say that using words like Gestapo to refer to other forum members comes perilously close to a breach of AUP in itself, which does sort of negate any point you're trying to make about moderation of this website, in a pot-kettle-black kinda way?
N x x x ;)

25 Sep 2010

Ya know Neil......you show a huge level of intelligence. wink

25 Sep 2010

Quote by GnV
I honestly don't believe the change in the law will affect clubs at all (see my earlier post) so this is really a panic about nothing.

If clubs aren't associations they're businesses / service providers.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by neilinleeds
Islandcpl, given your constant reference to forum 'idiots', and the forum 'Gestapo' of late, and given that you have less than a month left of a membership that you have already said you do not intend to renew, would it be fair to say that you seem to trying to get some sort of reaction from other members by way of a few parting shots before your deactivation?
Some would call that trolling. Equally, some would say that using words like Gestapo to refer to other forum members comes perilously close to a breach of AUP in itself, which does sort of negate any point you're trying to make about moderation of this website, in a pot-kettle-black kinda way?
N x x x ;)

Oooooo, can we invoke Godwin's Law?

25 Sep 2010

I wonder if this has anything to do with the new licensing legislation that is coming in about sex establishments, with the definition changing to encompass a lot more than it used to dunno

. Private parties that charge may find that they have to license in the near future.
Dave_Notts

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
Islandcpl, given your constant reference to forum 'idiots', and the forum 'Gestapo' of late, and given that you have less than a month left of a membership that you have already said you do not intend to renew, would it be fair to say that you seem to trying to get some sort of reaction from other members by way of a few parting shots before your deactivation?
Some would call that trolling. Equally, some would say that using words like Gestapo to refer to other forum members comes perilously close to a breach of AUP in itself, which does sort of negate any point you're trying to make about moderation of this website, in a pot-kettle-black kinda way?
N x x x ;)

Oooooo, can we invoke Godwin's Law?
But we are only on page three, so early lol

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Dave__Notts
I wonder if this has anything to do with the new licensing legislation that is coming in about sex establishments, with the definition changing to encompass a lot more than it used to . Private parties that charge may find that they have to license in the near future.
Dave_Notts

I'm sure that the party organisers who are doing it all above board, and with the relevant permissions, won't be worried though. They'll have covered the cost of the appropriate licenses with their entry charges. They'll probably just have to review their pricing/entry structure to make it non-discriminatory to anyone.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
I wonder if this has anything to do with the new licensing legislation that is coming in about sex establishments, with the definition changing to encompass a lot more than it used to . Private parties that charge may find that they have to license in the near future.
Dave_Notts

I'm sure that the party organisers who are doing it all above board, and with the relevant permissions, won't be worried though. They'll have covered the cost of the appropriate licenses with their entry charges. They'll probably just have to review their pricing/entry structure to make it non-discriminatory to anyone.
And what license would that be? Just curious
Whatever licenses you'd need to be sure that your private party, for which guests have paid an entrance fee, was properly covered for the consumption of alcohol. I'm sure you'll know of the appropriate licenses (or any upcoming licensing legislation changes), as you've already stated in another thread that all relevant authorities know that you hold private, fee-paying parties.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
Thank you for the correction, and the link to the EHRC web site as useful as it is, is only guidance and not a court of law, which is where the new legislation will be interpreted and enforced.

Are you actually able to read? In the first few pages of the "guidance" it mentions its status quite clearly in this respect - not unlike to the status accorded to the Highway Code. I just can't be arsed to cut and paste the relevant reference because you clearly have no intention of pursuing anything other than your own petty agenda.
I'm even more surprised that your posting wasn't punctuated with the usual "idiot" references; perhaps you may be learning a little (albeit slowly) after all!

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
I know that they and SH will not loose a moments sleep when my membership expires but I do know that it will be their loss.

:thumbup:

bye.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
Whatever licenses you'd need to be sure that your private party, for which guests have paid an entrance fee, was properly covered for the consumption of alcohol. I'm sure you'll know of the appropriate licenses (or any upcoming licensing legislation changes), as you've already stated in another thread that all relevant authorities know that you hold private, fee-paying parties.

Not forgetting HMRC.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by essex34m

Whatever licenses you'd need to be sure that your private party, for which guests have paid an entrance fee, was properly covered for the consumption of alcohol. I'm sure you'll know of the appropriate licenses (or any upcoming licensing legislation changes), as you've already stated in another thread that all relevant authorities know that you hold private, fee-paying parties.

Not forgetting HMRC.
Yep, and them.

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
Islandcpl, given your constant reference to forum 'idiots', and the forum 'Gestapo' of late, and given that you have less than a month left of a membership that you have already said you do not intend to renew, would it be fair to say that you seem to trying to get some sort of reaction from other members by way of a few parting shots before your deactivation?
Some would call that trolling. Equally, some would say that using words like Gestapo to refer to other forum members comes perilously close to a breach of AUP in itself, which does sort of negate any point you're trying to make about moderation of this website, in a pot-kettle-black kinda way?
N x x x ;)

You may be right ,,,, then again you may not. The Gestapo know who they are because they keep rising to the bait. Unlike others who snipe at them behind their backs I at least have the decency and balls to call them that in forum. I know that they and SH will not loose a moments sleep when my membership expires but I do know that it will be their loss.
Why? dunno

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Mr-Powers
Islandcpl, given your constant reference to forum 'idiots', and the forum 'Gestapo' of late, and given that you have less than a month left of a membership that you have already said you do not intend to renew, would it be fair to say that you seem to trying to get some sort of reaction from other members by way of a few parting shots before your deactivation?
Some would call that trolling. Equally, some would say that using words like Gestapo to refer to other forum members comes perilously close to a breach of AUP in itself, which does sort of negate any point you're trying to make about moderation of this website, in a pot-kettle-black kinda way?
N x x x ;)

You may be right ,,,, then again you may not. The Gestapo know who they are because they keep rising to the bait. Unlike others who snipe at them behind their backs I at least have the decency and balls to call them that in forum. I know that they and SH will not loose a moments sleep when my membership expires but I do know that it will be their loss.
Why? dunno

'cos they won't be getting invites to his £25 a throw parties parties perhaps... they're a bargain after all :thumbup: :lol2:

25 Sep 2010

25 quid ?
I would pay 50 quid for such perfect hosts.
:twisted:

25 Sep 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
I wonder if this has anything to do with the new licensing legislation that is coming in about sex establishments, with the definition changing to encompass a lot more than it used to . Private parties that charge may find that they have to license in the near future.
Dave_Notts

I'm sure that the party organisers who are doing it all above board, and with the relevant permissions, won't be worried though. They'll have covered the cost of the appropriate licenses with their entry charges. They'll probably just have to review their pricing/entry structure to make it non-discriminatory to anyone.
And what license would that be? Just curious
Whatever licenses you'd need to be sure that your private party, for which guests have paid an entrance fee, was properly covered for the consumption of alcohol. I'm sure you'll know of the appropriate licenses (or any upcoming licensing legislation changes), as you've already stated in another thread that all relevant authorities know that you hold private, fee-paying parties.
Ahhh,,,,, I thought that was you must have meant, but needed to be clear. Ta
Nothing to do with alcohol, unless you are selling it.
At present a local authority licenses sex shops. Some councillors do not want sex shops in their area so they put a £4-5000 license fee to stop them opening. Now this is going to be extended to sex establishments. What is an establishment? I have no idea at the moment and I am not sure that the powers that be are too sure either. The guidance only made an appearance a week ago and I noticed that "sex establishment" was in brackets, so it means to me that it is still under consultation before the final draft comes out. We'll soon find out though.
Back to alcohol. No license needed as long as it is not for sale i.e. they bring their own. If you charge an entrance fee and then provide alcohol then this requires a license.
Hope that helps
Dave_Notts