Hmmm I can understand what the mother is trying to say, but on the other hand maybe it shouldn't be made so public that this guy is just looking for a shag, as in effect that's what they're saying.
I'm also slightly concerned about the mother - I've read numerous stories about her and her sons in various magazines - is this another money maker for her?
The comment about how she'd like her son to get a girl pregnant as "other people have to go through this" is worrying, does she not understand that having a baby just for the sake of it is totally the wrong reason....
On a whole - nah I can't say that I agree with it at all!!
All power to this woman. I don't disagree with anything she says.
In my opinion (and I accept that others disagree) the mother is making a bigger deal out of this than it warrants. Taking it to the national papers is going to rule out any self respecting girl who might actually decide she likes Otto.
And while being a virgin at 21 is unusual but not unheard of - why is this a crisis that she needs to appeal for help with? Just give him time and a little bit of privacy.
On a side note, there are some prostitutes/escorts who do work with disabled clients who could give him a good experience if it is only about the sex (which is appears from this article). If it is about love, then telling a newspaper that your son is desperate for a shag is not the way to go about it.
I am actually getting a bit angry with this now as Downs is an issue close to my heart so I am going to stop.
I guess it is positive that articles like this get people talking about disabilities...
As someone who works with children with varying degrees of disability i find only one sentence in the whole piece to be disturbing
'I would like to see him with a girlfriend. I would prefer to see him with a girlfriend who doesn't have Downs.
This i find such a strange comment from an adoptive mother of 3 children with downs syndrome, she has without doubt provided a safe & stable enviroment for these boys to grow up in & tried to give them as 'normal' a life as possible, hence the article. again she is trying to ensure that Otto lives his life to the maximum so surely if he finds either sex or love whether that partner also has downs syndrome is not an issue.
Adults with downs are perfectly capable of making decisions for themselves & are entitled to the same things in life as you or I, & if that means going to Amsterdam or a prostitute to enable him to experience things that others take for granted then so be it.
I remember a programme i think it was last yr about 40 yr old virgins going to Amsterdam for exactly the same reasons...did we question their motives...i think not
each to their own meat2please
Fearne Cotton though, that voice, that face, the near total domination of BBC programmes and her pointless and banal waffle. Can't we just fire her from a steam catapult on an aircraft carrier, it sounds a lot more fun :twisted:
for me it wasnt the fact he had downs...it was the fact she seems to be pimping him out......as a mum I couldnt imagine wanting to do that for my own kids.
I did'nt read the article like that boney as has already been mentioned this particular lady has been in various magazines over the yrs hi-lightin the problems of placing children with downs with suitable families.
I personally just think this lady is just tryin to ensure her son gets the best out of life that he can possibly get...downs syndrome or not.
The sex is probably incidental for now. What's more sinister is the pushy possessive mum, who is holding this over him in order to control and keep him, presumably. Its all very well wanting good things for your kids, but she's said more than enough.
If the guy's going to make it in any way he needs to break from this ghastly woman and find his own life. Then he'll be out there and he will meet someone.
I have looked at his web site and he has an online life. What's stopping him going out there and doing it?
this ghastly woman as you call her has provided a home for this child & others like him, she is neither being pushy or possesive but merely wanting the best for her child & trying to offer ALL manner of opportunities for him & if that includes sex & love then the problem is what?
Personnally i commend the woman for wanting her child to have a 'normal' (god i hate that word) life.
Be grateful for those things that we take for granted!
Of course most people would agree her heart's in the right place. But making a public appeal might not help much or at all.
I think it might better that some sexual experience was 'managed' by a helping hand. But perhaps not by his mum directly.
I think that what the woman said in the news paper article is sick Mothers don’t normally try to get their sons laid and would do not take their son to see a prostitute. The mother is getting fame making a name for herself in the newspapers , maybe that’s what she wants but I think maybe social services ears should be picking up at this point and they should be involved getting involved as she has a younger child.
Well I don’t know where to start but here goes. I have a son who has severe learning difficulties I am aware that my son has sexual feelings and wants a girl friend but at the same time he does not have an understanding of the complexities of a relationship. I would not encourage or discourage my son to have a relationship it is his desision, but I would try to help him understand what a relationship entails. Relationships between people can be difficult, for people with special needs relationships will happen but to me they could cause more problems than they could solve. I know a girl with special needs who needs a lot of sex and emotional education. She will have sex any man old or young she has no understanding that they are using her for sex. She could end up pregnant or have a STD. She tries it on with any man even if they are sitting next to their girlfriend or wife, which could end up with her getting physically hurt by someone.
I think one has to think 'what part have the media played so far', in anything you hear about these days. Its quite possible they found the web site and did a job on it. Coaxing out the details, from the lad and then his mother; they needed to turn it into something profitable.
God sake the media machine is moving very quickly on this one. What did the mother 'sound' like?
Very well spoken and intelligent.......which makes it more difficult to understand where she is coming from.
this is by no means a dig at england or the social costume here...it's just my experience as fairly recent immigrant.
when I moved to England, I was very surprised by the figures related to childbirth (my line of job requires me to have at least a broad idea of what those figures are)
it seems that the "single mother" phenomena is much more common than in other countries, and the same applies for underage mothers, children leaving school to give birth...
other social "phenomena" such as endemic binge drinking and "going on the pull" on a drunken fuck and casual sex at a very young age seem on average more common here than in other countries.
given this general picture that, I'm sure, is incomplete and debatable, I'm not so surprised that sex takes such a big role and assumes such relevance.
I haven't listened to the interview so I'm speculating, but I'm not so surprised that Otto was fixating on te sex aspects of the whole interview..after all that's what horiginated the whole buzz and I don't mean to be discriminating, but his words should be filtered through his "disability" and not just taken at face value.
as for the mother, I can only immmagine that the she wants to face one issue at a time, in the delicate and difficult matter of educating her disabled son.
I'm still not condoning the fact she is riding the media wave..but I do understand where she's coming from.
I don't know, of course.
it could be anything, selfish interest, focus on her son at the expense of others, posing to "advance" the cause of those Downs who are capable and able to mix on a par with society..it could be anything. I'm just not prepared to discard the possibility that she's acting with the best interest of her son in mind, to the best of her ability.
this doesn't make her actions and words right in an absolute sense, but..there you go, maybe in her specific case, she's doing what Otto needs her to do.
or maybe not..
My son was a virgin in his 21st year(not by the end of it)
He wanted sex, but did not have a girlfriend.
I did not feel the need to seek a sex partner out for him. It was said it will happen when it happens, and wait until you are in a relationship.
He did, they did it, she used him for sex he said, and dumped him 6 months later!
The TV show is on tomorrow, I may watch it after reading about it here today, also heard about it on Matthew Wrights show this morning.
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