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Quote by Ben_Minx
I can be a jovial fellow.
A wise chap once had to remind me that the world of people is made up of bouncing rubber balls and china plates.
The bouncing rubber balls can do a lot of damage when they forget about the china plates.
Playing a prank on people you don't know is irresponsible.

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Quote by Ben_Minx
Playing a prank on people you don't know is irresponsible.

In this case, the nurses were the unintended recipient of this practical joke.
I would add that it is the conduct of the perpetrator(s) post event that makes it irresponsible, not necessarily the event itself.
This regrettable event highlights the need to seek permission before broadcast. It does not, as some are suggesting, support a view that these pranks should be outlawed altogether.
In context and when controlled during or post event, they can be a welcome diversion from the vagaries of a very serious existence.
This prank was in context. It got out hand after it was handed over to those who should have been the guardians of common sense and decency but who failed to conduct themselves professionally. The DJs were merely doing their job. Up to that point, they did spectacularly well.
Quote by Ben_Minx
I can be a jovial fellow.
A wise chap once had to remind me that the world of people is made up of bouncing rubber balls and china plates.
The bouncing rubber balls can do a lot of damage when they forget about the china plates.
Playing a prank on people you don't know is irresponsible.

ABSOLUTELY :thumbup:
Claims of "it was just a joke", "I was only messing" as an excuse do have limitations.
This prank was designed to break laws and morals of patient privacy, how can that be acceptable, even on this site we have a "naming and shaming" policy to protect the innocent, when did it become ok to reveal/obtain and publish personal and private personal information about each other in the name of humour ?
To be fair there was nothing disclosed that wasn't already public knowledge.
Should have know different from such a bunch of moralistic people on here. :doh:
It was a prank a joke, something of which is lacking from so many individuals in life nowadays
I found the whole thing funny, and at this stage we do not know the reasons behind the tragic nurses death, and any suicide is tragic for whatever reason.
I shall remember the pranks next April 1st...Note to myself about never doing anything remotely prankish. Where is the shakes head and bows head emotion?
It's all so sad that this lady should feel so distressed by such a prank. As Ben pointed out, it should be a warning to all of us that some people are just far more delicate souls and need to be shielded from such callous behaviour. The fact that no harm was intended is little comfort to the family who have lost a loved one. Like most of us, I couldn't see any reason to be particularly upset by the prank itself, I might have used a few expletives upon the pranksters, but what a price to pay.
Quote by skinny
It's all so sad that this lady should feel so distressed by such a prank. As Ben pointed out, it should be a warning to all of us that some people are just far more delicate souls and need to be shielded from such callous behaviour. The fact that no harm was intended is little comfort to the family who have lost a loved one. Like most of us, I couldn't see any reason to be particularly upset by the prank itself, I might have used a few expletives upon the pranksters, but what a price to pay.

Skinny does anyone know at this stage what was the reason behind the suicide with evidence and not scare mongering tactics? Does anyone of us know if there were previous mental health issues? Was there a suicide letter does anyone know?
People on here and elsewhere moan and groan all the time about the media and it's influence, yet people even on here are quick to not only judge but to come to conclusions based on no evidence at all, and they say the media does witch hunts.
I shall wait and see what the outcome is after a proper investigation, but I find it unbelievable that a person would kill themselves because they made a mistake on a telephone call. If that was to be proved to be the case, then a person with such a ' delicate soul' should have been shielded away from life itself surely?
A message from someone on another website speaks some sense at least by writing,
' I certainly think this is a witch hunt against these 2 DJ's. The newspapers are the people who blew this out of proportion. I remember reading comments from people about firing the nurses. Having said that, NOBODY could have expected suicide from a person who only passed on the call. The amount of vitriol by people against people they don't even know, and Australians in general is abnormal '.
Just to put the role of the deceased in the phone call into perspective, here is a transcript of her part of the call, just thirteen words:
Receptionist: Hello, good morning, King Edward VII Hospital.
Greig (Queen voice): Oh hello there, could I please speak to Kate please, my granddaughter.
Receptionist: Oh yes, just hold on ma’am.
Greig: Thank you
Quote by Trevaunance
Just to put the role of the deceased in the phone call into perspective, here is a transcript of her part of the call, just thirteen words:
Receptionist: Hello, good morning, King Edward VII Hospital.
Greig (Queen voice): Oh hello there, could I please speak to Kate please, my granddaughter.
Receptionist: Oh yes, just hold on ma’am.
Greig: Thank you

Is this all that she said Trev?
What and she killed herself because of that? Sorry if that is indeed the case, there are some other serious issues going on which we do not know about for sure.
Quote by starlightcouple
Should have know different from such a bunch of moralistic people on here. :doh:
It was a prank a joke, something of which is lacking from so many individuals in life nowadays
I found the whole thing funny, and at this stage we do not know the reasons behind the tragic nurses death, and any suicide is tragic for whatever reason.
I shall remember the pranks next April 1st...Note to myself about never doing anything remotely prankish. Where is the shakes head and bows head emotion?

Retaining your own personal morals and principals has to be better than having no morals at all, I am not saying you don't have any, I am sure you do, as has been said, there is a point where a prank becomes something other than a prank, we don't know the full reasons behind the suicide as yet, we also don't know how far this "prank" would have been taken had more information been obtained, there is much we do not know and some things we will never know, some on here are merely stating that there has to be a point when a line is drawn in taking the proverbial out of people, or revealing information about them, or making them feel like crap or putting thier careers in jeapordy. When that line is crossed action needs to be taken.
Yes, star that is all she said. Not exactly a world changing conversation in my view, but who am I to judge.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Retaining your own personal morals and principals has to be better than having no morals at all, I am not saying you don't have any, I am sure you do, as has been said, there is a point where a prank becomes something other than a prank, we don't know the full reasons behind the suicide as yet, we also don't know how far this "prank" would have been taken had more information been obtained, there is much we do not know and some things we will never know, some on here are merely stating that there has to be a point when a line is drawn in taking the proverbial out of people, or revealing information about them, or making them feel like crap or putting thier careers in jeapordy. When that line is crossed action needs to be taken.

You've changed your tune Jed. Ive lost count of the number of times you have said the deceased committed suicide because of the phone call.innocent
Quote by Trevaunance
Yes, star that is all she said. Not exactly a world changing conversation in my view, but who am I to judge.

Of course Trev it would be wrong to judge, but seems that is what plenty of other people are doing eh? I am no expert at all but if that is all that was said it would seem to even the most blind of people that there surely were serious mental health issues involved here somewhere, or something rather tragic within her own personnel life had occurred.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Retaining your own personal morals and principals has to be better than having no morals at all, I am not saying you don't have any, I am sure you do, as has been said, there is a point where a prank becomes something other than a prank, we don't know the full reasons behind the suicide as yet, we also don't know how far this "prank" would have been taken had more information been obtained, there is much we do not know and some things we will never know, some on here are merely stating that there has to be a point when a line is drawn in taking the proverbial out of people, or revealing information about them, or making them feel like crap or putting thier careers in jeapordy. When that line is crossed action needs to be taken.

Quote by Trevaunance
You've changed your tune Jed. Ive lost count of the number of times you have said the deceased committed suicide because of the phone call.innocent

It seems on occasions that poor Mids forgets what he says and when he said it. :doh:
I normally watch the news once a day and never read the news papers but call me cynical where this case is concerned but could it be used to divert attention away from the results of the leveson inquiry? Which could have a far greater impact on peoples lives.
I don't mean to undermine what has happened here but there are authorities around to sort this incident out. The DJ's I am sure are wishing they could wind back time.
I would also add a prank or joke is often found funny when you know the person, and know the person will not be offended by it and see it in the light spirit it was intended.
I think the lesson that must be learnt is to think about the reaction you actions could have on others. If they have thought about this in the beginning they might not of done what they did, as not to know the others concerned you would never know what reactions your actions would have.
Quote by Trevaunance
Yes, star that is all she said. Not exactly a world changing conversation in my view, but who am I to judge.
Retaining your own personal morals and principals has to be better than having no morals at all, I am not saying you don't have any, I am sure you do, as has been said, there is a point where a prank becomes something other than a prank, we don't know the full reasons behind the suicide as yet, we also don't know how far this "prank" would have been taken had more information been obtained, there is much we do not know and some things we will never know, some on here are merely stating that there has to be a point when a line is drawn in taking the proverbial out of people, or revealing information about them, or making them feel like crap or putting thier careers in jeapordy. When that line is crossed action needs to be taken.

You've changed your tune Jed. Ive lost count of the number of times you have said the deceased committed suicide because of the phone call.innocent
I believe that the hoax call was a big factor in her actions, I have said that and still believe it, I said earlier that perhaps she was having problems before the call but that this seems to have been the final straw and mitigating factor, I will be very very surprised if subsequent investigations show that the hoax call had nothing to do with her final actions.
Yes I change my tune sometimes, I am proud of that, I read the forums and sometimes, just occasionally do have my opinion changed by the views and arguments other people put forward here, god forbid I am too bigotted to see reason or so stupid I will give up my own beliefs just because someone says something different to me, I use the forums to learn, to air my personal views, listen and respect other peoples views and gain further knowledge about subjects discussed here. Will anyone here say that I am wrong for that, that I should not listen to what other people have to say, to take on board valid arguments that differ from my own opinion ? Are the people here so bigotted as to believe they could not be wrong sometimes, are they too proud to admit when they are wrong, made a mistake, could have been confused or missinformed ?
Quote by MidsCouple24
I believe that the hoax call was a big factor in her actions, I have said that and still believe it, I said earlier that perhaps she was having problems before the call but that this seems to have been the final straw and mitigating factor, I will be very very surprised if subsequent investigations show that the hoax call had nothing to do with her final actions.

I agree that it would be a stretch of the imagination to think that the telephone call had absolutely nothing to do with her choice. However it is highly unlikely in my opinion to have been the sole cause, as you now seem to agree.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Yes I change my tune sometimes, I am proud of that,

Yes we know. You posted the opening post, then corrected it in the second post and then changed it again with your next post lol
Quote by MidsCouple24
I read the forums and sometimes, just occasionally do have my opinion changed by the views and arguments other people put forward here, god forbid I am too bigotted to see reason or so stupid I will give up my own beliefs just because someone says something different to me, I use the forums to learn, to air my personal views, listen and respect other peoples views and gain further knowledge about subjects discussed here.

Maybe watching the news or reading a paper would go someway to helping you have a more informed opinion instead of forum boxing :sparring:
Quote by MidsCouple24
Will anyone here say that I am wrong for that, that I should not listen to what other people have to say, to take on board valid arguments that differ from my own opinion ?

Nobody has said anything along those lines. But if you listened to other people and understood what they were saying, rather than launching headlong into them, you may actually get them to understand your opinion and change their view, rather than alienating people.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Are the people here so bigotted as to believe they could not be wrong sometimes, are they too proud to admit when they are wrong, made a mistake, could have been confused or missinformed ?

We are all capable of making mistakes, but I for one try to write with my head and tangible facts, not my heart and speculation.
I will try to be more informed in future posts, but the media does have a habit of misleading those that watch/read it, they do have a habit of making mistakes, they do lie sometimes, so that way is not infalable either, as I said sometimes the questions have to be asked before all the facts are public knowledge because if they are not asked they don't always get answered at all.
I also like to create a topic for discussion, sometimes it is good to have a topic where people do have knowledge and opinions that are heart felt, "would you shag the person above" and "what made you smile today" are fun but you can only have so much fun, we all like a good, mature, well mannered and passionate argument from time to time.
As a prank it was bloody funny. As someone killing themselves over it, thats sad for them and their family. Will it stop me listening or watching radio or TV pranks? Will it feck. I grew up with Jeremy Beadle and the wacky Japanese who seem to torture their own citizens in the name of TV pranks..........and by hell are the Japenese prank shows funny. How nobody has not had a heart attack on one of those shows yet I don't know.
Dave_Notts
Quote by MidsCouple24
Are the people here so bigotted as to believe they could not be wrong sometimes, are they too proud to admit when they are wrong, made a mistake, could have been confused or missinformed ?

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Quote by Ben_Minx
I can be a jovial fellow.
A wise chap once had to remind me that the world of people is made up of bouncing rubber balls and china plates.
The bouncing rubber balls can do a lot of damage when they forget about the china plates.
Playing a prank on people you don't know is irresponsible.

could you ask the wise chap how you protect a china plate that looks and acts like a bouncing rubber ball dunno
Quote by Dave__Notts
As a prank it was bloody funny. As someone killing themselves over it, thats sad for them and their family. Will it stop me listening or watching radio or TV pranks? Will it feck. I grew up with Jeremy Beadle and the wacky Japanese who seem to torture their own citizens in the name of TV pranks..........and by hell are the Japenese prank shows funny. How nobody has not had a heart attack on one of those shows yet I don't know.
Dave_Notts

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i think i said earlier more mischief than malice the world cannot be wrapped in cotton wool.
what happened was tragic,but things should move on as I'm sure if they knew what would have happened then the prank would never have been played,but thats not an excuse to ban pranks and pratical jokes ffs
Quote by Max777
Are the people here so bigotted as to believe they could not be wrong sometimes, are they too proud to admit when they are wrong, made a mistake, could have been confused or missinformed ?

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Yes I kinda agree with your :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:'s Max but I kinds think these are more appropriate.
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Quote by Lizaleanrob
I can be a jovial fellow.
A wise chap once had to remind me that the world of people is made up of bouncing rubber balls and china plates.
The bouncing rubber balls can do a lot of damage when they forget about the china plates.
Playing a prank on people you don't know is irresponsible.

could you ask the wise chap how you protect a china plate that looks and acts like a bouncing rubber ball dunno
A totally different and new confusing language to me Rob. rolleyes
Yes the emoticons are here to help you in your favourite pastime
Insult people who post here, call them stupid or idiots
Laugh publicly at what people say
Very clever cut and paste bits of what people write to make them look foolish when out of context with the whole post
Do not answer questions that prove you were wrong
Stupid I may be at times but I would rather be the person that I am than the people you two are.
If it makes you feel better and superior please continue to send your insults my way and have a go at anything I say with your scorn and laughter, your egos obviously need it and I am glad to be able to help a fellow human being who has a problem.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Insult people who post here, call them stupid or idiots

Quote by MidsCouple24
Stupid I may be at times but I would rather be the person that I am than the people you two are.

Your so funny Mids at times, you really are.rotflmao You don't like people calling you ' stupid ' and then you go along and admit you are. wink
Quote by MidsCouple24
If it makes you feel better and superior please continue to send your insults my way and have a go at anything I say with your scorn and laughter, your egos obviously need it and I am glad to be able to help a fellow human being who has a problem.

Insults Mids? I tell you something, I think you are a tender little soul and I would never play a prank on you as you would never see the funny side. Actually do you see the funny side of anything? I certainly see the funny side Mids when you post some of the things you post and then within about half an hour you are correcting yourself, because you had ' misread ' something.
I am not going to comment further as really you make all the sillys things happen all on your own. :bounce: Obviously cannot comment on what Max may make of your delicate soul comment, but am sure he will reply in his own way at some point.
I personally don't think you are stupid or an idiot Mids, ill informed at times and fail to read the news story properly, but that is certainly not a criminal offense Mids.
Okay, so another thread has descended into juvenile name calling and posturing, and again the only option is to take away the ability for the people concerned to continue.
This thread may be unlocked again at some point, or it may be removed from public view to try to convince casual viewers that the forum is an interesting and safe place to contribute to. rolleyes