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Roy Hodgson is set to start talks with the Football Association today and expected to be appointed England manager within days.
The FA says the West Brom manager, 64, is the only person it has approached about succeeding Fabio Capello.
Hodgson has extensive international experience, having managed Switzerland, United Arab Emirates and Finland, and domestic teams in Sweden, Italy and England.
Bernstein said: "Roy is the only manager we have approached and we remain on course to make an appointment within the timescale we set out."
The four-man panel which will decide who takes over from Capello are
:arrow: Bernstein, FA general secretary
:arrow: Alex Horne, FA director of football development
:arrow: Sir Trevor Brooking and
:arrow: managing director of Club England Adrian Bevington.
Bernstein approached West Brom on Saturday and was given permission to speak to Hodgson, who is likely to be appointed on a long-term basis.
It is expected any contract will cover the three tournaments up to and including Euro 2016, at which point he will be two months short of his 69th birthday.
Hodgson's contract with West Brom ends on 30 June.
well...two things...firstly Roy is a good manager and think he does suit the international scene. He has no court cases or dodgy deals ( that we know of ) around him, or in the skeleton cupboard.
Also on a personal note, he has done really well at Sandwell Town ( as a Wolves supporter, I'm not allowed to use the real name..lol )...but now they lost the manager they will hopefully do crap....now that more important than England for me !!! lol
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...firstly Roy is a good manager and ....... he has done really well at Sandwell Town.... lol

rotflmao
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well...two things...firstly Roy is a good manager and think he does suit the international scene. He has no court cases or dodgy deals ( that we know of ) around him, or in the skeleton cupboard.
Also on a personal note, he has done really well at Sandwell Town ( as a Wolves supporter, I'm not allowed to use the real name..lol )...but now they lost the manager they will hopefully do crap....now that more important than England for me !!! lol

The Dingles can only dream of being where the Stripey Demons are at the moment.
As a Baggies fan, I'm gutted because he's taken us and turned us into an established mid-table Premier League side, something impressive, given the fact that we don't have tons of foreign money behind us. On a personal level, I'm quite happy for him as he's wanted a crack at the England job for a while and looks to be finally getting one.
I'm more than a little apprehensive about who his replacement will be. The name Steve Bruce is being mentioned. That fills me with horror. I'd like to try and get Roberto Martinez from Wigan, if we can. But having said that, we may be able to attract a better class of candidate as we'll be playing our 3rd consecutive season in the EPL.
And at least we won't make such a debacle of it as Moxey/Morgan and Clipboard Connor did :lol: :twisted:
the last four england managers
fabio capello 2008- 2011
steve mcclaren 2006-2007
sven goran eriksson 2001-2006
peter taylor 2000-2001
total trophies ? none
total tournaments where england did well? none
the last major tournament was the world cup under capello. a man they were paying 6 million pounds a year to, and we came home a total laughing stock. in fact capello was so embarrassed by it, that he quit the job sooner than he should have, is it any wonder. the FA's decisions on managers is at best pathetic and at worst fucking idiotic.
now the FA have it seems decided to do what they usually do, and appoint another useless manager. Roy Hodgson is a decent enough guy but the last time he was in charge of a big club in Liverpool he did what exactly?
he has never won any trophies of any note and frankly i am bemused at the decision. well actually no i am not as the peeple who make the decisions at the FA, could not run a bath between them.
is it any wonder that england have won nothing since 1966?
this is a good read.

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is it any wonder that england have won nothing since 1966?

And the assistance of a dodgy linesman bolt
Dave_Notts
Oh dear. Quoting Lolerpool fans as fonts of all football knowledge. :huh:
In the corresponding time, Hodgson has won an 'insipid' total of 66 points at West Brom, while at the same time over the same period, the so-called King Kenny has a massive 68 points.
Hodgson suffered at Lolerpool because he wasn't Dalgleish. He'll suffer with England because he isn't Redknapp. The 'Arry loving media will see to that, conveniently forgetting that Redknapp is a very average manager. In 30 years as a manager, he's won the 3rd Division title with Bournemouth, the Inter-Toto Cup with West Ham and The FA Cup with Pompey, after spending millions and eventually bankrupting the club. Hodgson has managed teams to 12 league titles (in Sweden and Finland), finished second in Serie A with Inter (and reaching the UEFA Cup Final) and qualified for World Cups and European championships with Finland and Switzerland. I'd rather have an England side managed by Hodgson than Redknapp, who would quickly be found to be out of his depth. Though, having said that, it would've been interesting to see who the press would have blamed if Redknapp had got the job and it all went tits up.
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Oh dear. Quoting Lolerpool fans as fonts of all football knowledge. :huh:

ah so i am to listen to you then instead? i mean you support WBA nuff said. innocent
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Hodgson suffered at Lolerpool because he wasn't Dalgleish. He'll suffer with England because he isn't Redknapp. The 'Arry loving media will see to that, conveniently forgetting that Redknapp is a very average manager. In 30 years as a manager, he's won the 3rd Division title with Bournemouth, the Inter-Toto Cup with West Ham and The FA Cup with Pompey, after spending millions and eventually bankrupting the club. Hodgson has managed teams to 12 league titles (in Sweden and Finland), finished second in Serie A with Inter (and reaching the UEFA Cup Final) and qualified for World Cups and European championships with Finland and Switzerland. I'd rather have an England side managed by Hodgson than Redknapp, who would quickly be found to be out of his depth. Though, having said that, it would've been interesting to see who the press would have blamed if Redknapp had got the job and it all went tits up.

blimey next you will be saying that mcclaren was a good manager as he won the carling cup.rolleyes
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Oh dear. Quoting Lolerpool fans as fonts of all football knowledge. :huh:

ah so i am to listen to you then instead? i mean you support WBA nuff said. innocent
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Hodgson suffered at Lolerpool because he wasn't Dalgleish. He'll suffer with England because he isn't Redknapp. The 'Arry loving media will see to that, conveniently forgetting that Redknapp is a very average manager. In 30 years as a manager, he's won the 3rd Division title with Bournemouth, the Inter-Toto Cup with West Ham and The FA Cup with Pompey, after spending millions and eventually bankrupting the club. Hodgson has managed teams to 12 league titles (in Sweden and Finland), finished second in Serie A with Inter (and reaching the UEFA Cup Final) and qualified for World Cups and European championships with Finland and Switzerland. I'd rather have an England side managed by Hodgson than Redknapp, who would quickly be found to be out of his depth. Though, having said that, it would've been interesting to see who the press would have blamed if Redknapp had got the job and it all went tits up.

blimey next you will be saying that mcclaren was a good manager as he won the carling cup.rolleyes
Au contraire. I'm saying Hodgson is a better choice as he has more experience and a better track record.
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I'm saying Hodgson is a better choice as he has more experience and a better track record.

and has won ?
Roy names his first team.
1 Wobinson
2 Wichards
3 Bwidge
4 Tewwy
5 Wio
6 Bawwy
7 Gewward
8 Wwilshere
9 Wooney
10 Cwouch
11 Stuwwidge
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I'm saying Hodgson is a better choice as he has more experience and a better track record.

and has won ?
12 League titles in different parts of Europe. As well as second in Serie A and a UEFA Cup Final with Inter.
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I'm saying Hodgson is a better choice as he has more experience and a better track record.

and has won ?
12 League titles in different parts of Europe. As well as second in Serie A and a UEFA Cup Final with Inter.
rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao:
see being a WBA supporter i can understand that a manger of yours that has won anything would be a bonus, but winning tin pot trophies in Sweden and Denmark are hardly cause for celebration. You also mention the " second " places which was not part of my question. It was he has won? not how many runners up prizes did he win. nobody remembers a second place. :bounce:
maybe the question should have been , has he actually won anything of any note? No is the answer. well certainly nothing that actually counts for anything. if you think winning trophies in two countries that to be honest are pretty worthless at club level, counts as being the manager of england, then of course you are entitles to that opinion.
for me i like the guy, but really after all the rubbish managers we have had in the past, are you really saying this appointment is a step up from the useless bunch we have had over the last twenty years?
also not being rude but as a WBA supporter under hodgson, tenth in the premiership is average of which i think hodgson is, average. now if the FA think having an average manager to run the national team is acceptable, then is it any wonder we find ourselves in this situation?
we spent 6 million a year on capello and now they are saying it is to expensive for harry. sorry but i and many others think that having hodgson as manger will be another painful step, into the laughter bucket of english football. england are really an average team, now looks like being coached by once again an average manger.:sad:
no wonder we are a laughing stock in world football, which proves the point when FIFA place england as 7th. how can we be ranked 7th ffs? we are awful, have been awful, and yet are still 7th. something very funny going on there.:notes:
Who cares a flying fuck?
Hodgson has won trophies. Whether you regard 12 Swedish and Finnish league titles as "tin pot" is your prerogative. The fact remains that he has won much more than media darling and "people's choice" Redknapp (a 3rd Division title with Bournemouth, The Inter-Toto Cup {the very definition of Tin pot} with West Ham and The FA Cup with Pompey, where he spent millions and bankrupted the club). Hodgson did something very few other English managers had the balls to do. He tried his hand abroad. It was this foreign experience that set him up for the England job rather than any trophies. Hodgson's knowledge of European football is vast. That is what The FA have looked at.
Oh, and by the way, West Brom finishing in mid-table is a great achievement for a club of our size. We've spent a tiny fraction compared to some of the so-called bigger clubs. Consider Liverpool; £100 million+ spent and we enter the last 2 games of the season just 3 points behind them.
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Hodgson has won trophies. Whether you regard 12 Swedish and Finnish league titles as "tin pot" is your prerogative.

it is indeed and i do :thumbup:
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The fact remains that he has won much more than media darling and "people's choice" Redknapp (a 3rd Division title with Bournemouth, The Inter-Toto Cup {the very definition of Tin pot} with West Ham and The FA Cup with Pompey, where he spent millions and bankrupted the club).

how did rednapp bankrupt the club dunno a manager goes to the chairman/owner of that club and asks to buy a player. it is then up to the chairman/owner to bankroll the cheque. if the chairman/owner is dumb enough to sign cheques like they are going out of fashion, and then to the detriment of the club where bankruptcy happens, how is that anyones fault except the chairman/owners :dunno: or are you saying that a manger holds and signs the cheques :dunno:
also i know that the FA have rubbished the FA cup over recent years, but it in many peoples opinion still the biggest trophy of them all, and harry boy won it :thumbup:
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Hodgson did something very few other English managers had the balls to do. He tried his hand abroad. It was this foreign experience that set him up for the England job rather than any trophies. Hodgson's knowledge of European football is vast. That is what The FA have looked at.

we shall beg to differ on that one, and i would ask is that a guess on your part or do you have insider knowledge of what the FA decided?
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Oh, and by the way, West Brom finishing in mid-table is a great achievement for a club of our size. We've spent a tiny fraction compared to some of the so-called bigger clubs. Consider Liverpool; £100 million+ spent and we enter the last 2 games of the season just 3 points behind them.

that is very true my friend but, and here is the but, what history have your club got? have they won anything in the last 30 years? 1968 and 1966 are the last trophies you have won. liverpool as an example have won many things over the last 30 years, and success brings money, money they have spent on more players. WBA have spent no decent money on decent players as they wont win anything and so the merry go round starts again. you and i know that without spending money in most occasions you will not win anything. dont win anything then you dont make money, and you dont sign decent players. for me i dont care as barcelona are still the best team in europe lol
also fan base, you know what i mean on that one. :giggle:
Yes after this season Sandwell Town may well find themselves playing against Wolverhamptons Sheep lol
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Yes after this season Sandwell Town may well find themselves playing against Wolverhamptons Sheep lol

Ah, sheep shagging, now you're talking.
Much more entertaining :grin:
Well it's a done deal now and he is officially the England Manager, let us all hope he is the best England Manager ever no matter what we think of his appointment we should all support him now because supporting him is supporting England. (media critics are you reading this please)
thing that we do know is that Hodgson has international experiance...and he is good at making average sides better !! England right now are an average side...very average in reality. If we get out of the group stage in the Euro's it can be deemed a success I think. Like he has done with Fulham and Sandwell Town...lets hope he gets the team actually punching above its weight !!
star could you name a manager that could entice the present bunch of gambling,boozing,fillanering,cocky,over confident,dummy spitting underachiever's we currently call the England squad to actually get into the final of major event then I'm all ears
other than that if hodgson is daft enough to take the job then let him have i say and pay him well enough to suffer having pics of veg on his head in national newspapers :dry:
England Managers past, present and future have one major obstacle, the Premiership elite, the Sir Alex and others who will not release players to train together or even occasionally for friendly matches.
We do have some players who despite thier off pitch antics can produce the goods, but a team needs time to gel and to work together, our greatest England teams have been produced in times when many of the squad have come from the same teams like Liverpool and Man Utd.
There have been times when as many as 8 of the squad have come from the same team, then they have gelled together very well, they know how each other play and can anticipate moves better, those times are gone because so many foreign players are in squads now, so it is even more important that the England squad gets some time to work together.
Remember when England could choose the great Manchester Squad of Charlton, Stiles and co and more recently when Utd had a squad to offer that included The Neville Bros, Scholes, David May, Beckham and those other youngsters that took Utd back to the top of the league and held them there.
Managers like Sir Alex will not allow the England Squad to get together enough for fear of injury to thier players or tiredness, or a weakening of thier squads and I can see thier point but until England do train together they will not be able to create that special magic that is needed to win trophies at an International level.
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England Managers past, present and future have one major obstacle, the Premiership elite, the Sir Alex and others who will not release players to train together or even occasionally for friendly matches.
We do have some players who despite thier off pitch antics can produce the goods, but a team needs time to gel and to work together, our greatest England teams have been produced in times when many of the squad have come from the same teams like Liverpool and Man Utd.
There have been times when as many as 8 of the squad have come from the same team, then they have gelled together very well, they know how each other play and can anticipate moves better, those times are gone because so many foreign players are in squads now, so it is even more important that the England squad gets some time to work together.
Remember when England could choose the great Manchester Squad of Charlton, Stiles and co and more recently when Utd had a squad to offer that included The Neville Bros, Scholes, David May, Beckham and those other youngsters that took Utd back to the top of the league and held them there.
Managers like Sir Alex will not allow the England Squad to get together enough for fear of injury to thier players or tiredness, or a weakening of thier squads and I can see thier point but until England do train together they will not be able to create that special magic that is needed to win trophies at an International level.

sorry mids but we have a squad of footballers
that could not make a professional between them
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Remember when England could choose the great Manchester Squad of Charlton, Stiles and co

Who were the "co"?
Quote by MidsCouple24
England Managers past, present and future have one major obstacle, the Premiership elite, the Sir Alex and others who will not release players to train together or even occasionally for friendly matches.
We do have some players who despite thier off pitch antics can produce the goods, but a team needs time to gel and to work together, our greatest England teams have been produced in times when many of the squad have come from the same teams like Liverpool and Man Utd.
There have been times when as many as 8 of the squad have come from the same team, then they have gelled together very well, they know how each other play and can anticipate moves better, those times are gone because so many foreign players are in squads now, so it is even more important that the England squad gets some time to work together.
Remember when England could choose the great Manchester Squad of Charlton, Stiles and co and more recently when Utd had a squad to offer that included The Neville Bros, Scholes, David May, Beckham and those other youngsters that took Utd back to the top of the league and held them there.
Managers like Sir Alex will not allow the England Squad to get together enough for fear of injury to thier players or tiredness, or a weakening of thier squads and I can see thier point but until England do train together they will not be able to create that special magic that is needed to win trophies at an International level.

I'm sure we could return to having a decent team mids but not until our squad looses the attitude of entitlement to one of honour
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star could you name a manager that could entice the present bunch of gambling,boozing,fillanering,cocky,over confident,dummy spitting underachiever's we currently call the England squad to actually get into the final of major event then I'm all ears

alex ferguson for one.
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other than that if hodgson is daft enough to take the job then let him have i say and pay him well enough to suffer having pics of veg on his head in national newspapers :dry:

wont be veg on his head rob but i reckon he will after the euros be known as the
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Remember when England could choose the great Manchester Squad of Charlton, Stiles and co

Who were the "co"?
David Sadler
I confess to considering the Utd players Willie Morgan and Dennis Law who were of course Scottish players and in the Scotland World Cups Squad. But without checking I knew the ones I named were not the only ones

That same squad included 2 members of Leeds United who were
Terry Cooper
Jack Charlton
But interestingly they supplied a lot of players to other British squads at that time ie
Peter Lorimer Scotland, Gary Sprake Wales, Eddie Gray Scotland, Frank Gray Scotland, Johnny Giles Ireland, Billy Bremner Scotland.
Now of course that was the squad picked for the England Team and only 11 + subs got on the pitch for the 1966 win but my point is that so many players played for the same team and were eligible and chosen for the squad.
How many English players can you get from teams these days, in the case of Man Utd, 10 first team players are eligible but I doubt half of them would make the England Squad let alone the final 11.
and before you ask they are
Phil Jones
Rio Ferdnand
Michael Owen
Wayne Rooney
Chris Smalling
Michael Carrick
Ashley Young
Danny Welbeck
Paul Scholes
Tom Claverley
Manchester City our other top Premiership team have only 8 first team players eligible for the England squad
Micah Richards
joleon Lescott
James Milner
Adam Johnson
Stuart Taylor
Gareth Barry
Owen Hargreaves
Joe Hart
Now you have to admit the people making the headlines are not those 8 but the likes of
Pablo Zabaleta
Edin Dzeko
Aleksander Kolarov
Stefan Savic
Serio Aguero
Samir Nasri
Carlos Tevez
Gnegneri Toure Yaya
Mario Balotelli
Probably only a couple of the Man City squad would make the England Squad.
The situation at Chelsea and Arsenal is just the same.
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star could you name a manager that could entice the present bunch of gambling,boozing,fillanering,cocky,over confident,dummy spitting underachiever's we currently call the England squad to actually get into the final of major event then I'm all ears

alex ferguson for one.

I'm sure you will find Ferguson openly despises the England side as documented with his comments to one ronaldo as to making the England side have it!!
I think Hodgson is the best choice for England manager.
He has vast experience, including managing Inter Milan, he performed miracles with the Swiss national side. He got one of the biggest jobs in English football, by going to Liverpool, and would have done better, had the club not been owned by Hicks and Gillett,and it is obvious he didn't get the full 100% support and effort from the squad there. And he also did a fantastic job with West Brom, and helped them punch above their weight.
Yes, much negative comment is said, but I think people are judging him too soon.
I think we can safely write off Euro 2012, but I also think we should look to World Cup 2014 and beyond to see any real shape to his squads/teams, and I think that he will look more to the younger players, looking at ability, rather than picking the 'superstar' players, as that is what we have always done. For far too long, players have been picked for their status, rather than their form, and that is what holds England back.
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Remember when England could choose the great Manchester Squad of Charlton, Stiles and co

Who were the "co"?
David Sadler
I confess to considering the Utd players Willie Morgan and Dennis Law who were of course Scottish players and in the Scotland World Cups Squad. But without checking I knew the ones I named were not the only ones

That same squad included 2 members of Leeds United who were
Terry Cooper
Jack Charlton
But interestingly they supplied a lot of players to other British squads at that time ie
Peter Lorimer Scotland, Gary Sprake Wales, Eddie Gray Scotland, Frank Gray Scotland, Johnny Giles Ireland, Billy Bremner Scotland.
Now of course that was the squad picked for the England Team and only 11 + subs got on the pitch for the 1966 win but my point is that so many players played for the same team and were eligible and chosen for the squad.
How many English players can you get from teams these days, in the case of Man Utd, 10 first team players are eligible but I doubt half of them would make the England Squad let alone the final 11.
and before you ask they are
Phil Jones
Rio Ferdnand
Michael Owen
Wayne Rooney
Chris Smalling
Michael Carrick
Ashley Young
Danny Welbeck
Paul Scholes
Tom Claverley
Manchester City our other top Premiership team have only 8 first team players eligible for the England squad
Micah Richards
joleon Lescott
James Milner
Adam Johnson
Stuart Taylor
Gareth Barry
Owen Hargreaves
Joe Hart
Now you have to admit the people making the headlines are not those 8 but the likes of
Pablo Zabaleta
Edin Dzeko
Aleksander Kolarov
Stefan Savic
Serio Aguero
Samir Nasri
Carlos Tevez
Gnegneri Toure Yaya
Mario Balotelli
Probably only a couple of the Man City squad would make the England Squad.
The situation at Chelsea and Arsenal is just the same.

Sadler only played 4 times for England, the first time being 1967. The two Leeds players in the 1966 World Cup squad were Charlton and Norman Hunter. It's fair to say that despite the number of foreign players in the Premiership today there are more players in the current United squad likely to play for England than there was in the 1966 squad,