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Quote by kentswingers777
This thread should have a 'Will you vote BNP next time?(Yes/No/Tempted to) Poll

And that was me thinking the sun supports tories....i personally cant stand the sun and daily mail
Well I would never have guessed that from your past posts. lol
what are you on about now?thats the only risk of replying to your posts cos you loath analysing people and forget about the topic at hand
Quote by Kaznkev
Right,stayed away,cant resist any longer.
The housing benifit system is screwded,it pushes up rents in some areas and creates ghettoes in others where it is not worth maintaining houses to a decent standard.
If people want to debate reforms to a system that distorts the housing market then fine,but the colour of the skin of one family who are using the flawed system is irrelevant.I can gurantee there are 9 th generation white british exploiting the system,but they wont make the front page of the scum.
personally think there should be a flat national rate,to encourage a move from the inner cities and south east and to cut the prfits of unscrupulous landlords

Well take my case as an example....
I have a mortgage on my property so all things being equal eventually I may well end up owning it outright.....
The DSS would not help me while I was out of work by paying around £80 per month interest to keep the wolves from the door but....
If I had given my house up or surrendered it to the building society and moved to the house next door (exactly the same house as they are 2 semi's joined together) which is owned by a private landlord they would have happily paid the £500/£600 per month rent for me........
Where is the logic in that ?
It helps no-one but the private landlord.....
Quote by Steve
Right,stayed away,cant resist any longer.
The housing benifit system is screwded,it pushes up rents in some areas and creates ghettoes in others where it is not worth maintaining houses to a decent standard.
If people want to debate reforms to a system that distorts the housing market then fine,but the colour of the skin of one family who are using the flawed system is irrelevant.I can gurantee there are 9 th generation white british exploiting the system,but they wont make the front page of the scum.
personally think there should be a flat national rate,to encourage a move from the inner cities and south east and to cut the prfits of unscrupulous landlords

Well take my case as an example....
I have a mortgage on my property so all things being equal eventually I may well end up owning it outright.....
The DSS would not help me while I was out of work by paying around £80 per month interest to keep the wolves from the door but....
If I had given my house up or surrendered it to the building society and moved to the house next door (exactly the same house as they are 2 semi's joined together) which is owned by a private landlord they would have happily paid the £500/£600 per month rent for me........
Where is the logic in that ?
It helps no-one but the private landlord.....
I'm in the same boat but luckily they will pay the interest on my mortgage (but I had to wait 39 weeks before they did so have arrears), however if they paid all my mortgage its only £400 a month, but instead I am trying to sell my house and will have to move into rented and the local council will have to pay the £650 a month rent. So basically they would be better off paying my mortgage than paying my rent, but hey they cant do that, I'd be saving them £250 but they dont see it like that.
Quote by Kaznkev
Right,stayed away,cant resist any longer.
The housing benifit system is screwded,it pushes up rents in some areas and creates ghettoes in others where it is not worth maintaining houses to a decent standard.
If people want to debate reforms to a system that distorts the housing market then fine,but the colour of the skin of one family who are using the flawed system is irrelevant.I can gurantee there are 9 th generation white british exploiting the system,but they wont make the front page of the scum.
personally think there should be a flat national rate,to encourage a move from the inner cities and south east and to cut the prfits of unscrupulous landlords

You cannot point to any government funded schemes that provide grants to whites only, there are however many schemes that pay out thousands which are open only to non whites.
You cannot rebutt the fact that immigration is a net drain upon the UK to the tune of eight billion per year.
So yeah, as pants as it might be, skin colour does infact have a lot to do with it.
To take your points in order,which schemes pay out thousands to non whites,find me one which is not a Daily mail fantasy
Second where is your data on immigration being a net drain?i can make up stats too,and quite frankly given the number of australiansamericans and western eurpeans who come to this country,find 8 billion a year unbelievable
thirdly,skin colou is only relevant to whip up hatred.Would the scum have put a white family abusing the system on there front page,i think not!
Dont be such a wally!!
The sun puts loads of stories about white people abusing the system all the time.
This ain't about colour it is about what is wrong with the whole system.
If you really cannot see how immigration is adrain on this countries resources, then you really have not been even watching ya portable telly.
It is not some made up scare mongering thing from the papers...though people like yourself close your eyes and then blame the papers.
You continue to believe whatever you want, and I will believe what I read in the papers.
And you talk above about fantasy?



There are loads more.....have I made my point??
Most of these stories are aimed at white people....
Quote by Kaznkev
John,training schemes are run for various sections of the unemployed,given that unemplyment rates are higher in the BME communities specific schemes targeted at them do not seem a bad idea,just as there are schemes targeted at NEATS,
And dont call me love,hun,sweets or fuckslut are
kenty ,i cannot see how immigration is a drain on our resources,we have an aging population and will face a crisis soon if we do not have more working people to support this.I accept there are stoties about white people fiddling,bur rarely as such a massive front page splash.
And as i have told you before i dont read the guardian,do watch newsnight tho,paxers gets me hot wink

Your making silly statements again!
Now you have backtracked and admitted and accepted about white people, do you now want me to find for you some FRONT page HEADLINES involving white people??
White people who cheat the system? White people who have ten kids ( remember that sla- Karen Mathews )?
There are hundreds and hundreds, and in the Sun oin a daily basis.
If you really I mean really do not believe how much of a strain immigrants put onto the housing and the schools and the NHS.....I can Google that for you if you like but....you know it to be true because the facts will stare you in the face in most schools and in most hospitals, and certainly most councils who have to house them.
It is because people have decided to remain silent on the immigratiuon issue, and then what they get when they come here, that we have a situation now where a lot of services are at breaking point.
Trust me it is out there, ya just really need to go out and see it!
Quote by john469
John,training schemes are run for various sections of the unemployed,given that unemplyment rates are higher in the BME communities specific schemes targeted at them do not seem a bad idea,just as there are schemes targeted at NEATS,

LOL, bollocks!
You are ALL over the place!!
You CLEARLY stated a) no such schemes existed, and b) skin colour to be irrelevant!!
Now you change your tune and validate the existance of said schemes upon the basis of skin colour, LOL, comedy gold!
In your dumb world, skin colour doesnt matter... as long as its white skin that is.
But no matter, we have given you one example, shall we give you another?
Shall we get into the Joint Tenancy agreement and what it affords non white tenants over white tenants?
Ciao sweetums ;)
And if you weren't so condescending you could be reffered to as being as big an arse as one or two others here rolleyes
Quote by john469
And if you weren't so condescending you could be reffered to as being as big an arse as one or two others here rolleyes

Calm down Gloria, its only the internet.
*mortified*
The name isn't Gloria either :roll:
Quote by Steve
And if you weren't so condescending you could be reffered to as being as big an arse as one or two others here rolleyes

Calm down Gloria, its only the internet.
*mortified*
The name isn't Gloria either :roll:
It's Stevie.. wink
Quote by kentswingers777
And if you weren't so condescending you could be reffered to as being as big an arse as one or two others here rolleyes

Calm down Gloria, its only the internet.
*mortified*
The name isn't Gloria either :roll:
It's Stevie.. wink
Wrong again flipa
John,John,John,do calm down old boy,I know we all get a little worked up on occasion,and that we're all sometimes guilty of being a little dismissive of others opinions,but really there's no need for it.I have to say I've seen some fine displays of arrogance and self righteousness on this forum (and I'm sure I'm not entirely innocent myself)but you've won by a country mile.....give the man his medal.
B.T.W. I've got to agree with Neil I struggle to see the relevance of this families race or former nationality
P.S. you've all spoilt it by debating I for one was willing to see how many pages of backslapping and general this country's going to the dogsness this topic would run to.
I do not for one second believe any report where the Government have their sticky fingers involved.
Right here a few facts about just this family.
Never worked...none of them.
83 thousand pounds per year for the rent of their house.
5200 pounds per year for child benefit.
On top of this they will have income support payments for themselves and the Mother and the children, of around £290 per week. Which equates too approx.
That is a grand total of per year.
Now any fool can see why people get pissed off with this.
The AVERAGE yearly wage is about per year. Now if there were two adults earning that ammount it would come to 44 grand a year. A damn sight less than the above figure by some 57 thousand pounds.
And people say they come to this country not for the benefits? Bollox.
The next time you get your pay packet and look and see how much tax you have paid, spare a thought for a family of scroungers ( sorry but he and her could work )who ghet between them an ammount of over 100 grand paid to them, and they have contributed fuck all to this country. All they have done is take take take.
It makes my blood run cold seeing how hard Brits work, and then to see people get these kinds of benefits sticks in my throat.
Yes I know the ammount they get is not their fault, but why the feck are they not working for that ammount of money? Shameful...bloody shameful!!
Quote by flower411
John,John,John,do calm down old boy,I know we all get a little worked up on occasion,and that we're all sometimes guilty of being a little dismissive of others opinions,but really there's no need for it.I have to say I've seen some fine displays of arrogance and self righteousness on this forum (and I'm sure I'm not entirely innocent myself)but you've won by a country mile.....give the man his medal.
B.T.W. I've got to agree with Neil I struggle to see the relevance of this families race or former nationality
P.S. you've all spoilt it by debating I for one was willing to see how many pages of backslapping and general this country's going to the dogsness this topic would run to.

What sort of dogs .....exactly ..??
Probably GERMAN shepherds.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
John,John,John,do calm down old boy,I know we all get a little worked up on occasion,and that we're all sometimes guilty of being a little dismissive of others opinions,but really there's no need for it.I have to say I've seen some fine displays of arrogance and self righteousness on this forum (and I'm sure I'm not entirely innocent myself)but you've won by a country mile.....give the man his medal.
B.T.W. I've got to agree with Neil I struggle to see the relevance of this families race or former nationality
P.S. you've all spoilt it by debating I for one was willing to see how many pages of backslapping and general this country's going to the dogsness this topic would run to.

What sort of dogs .....exactly ..??
Probably GERMAN shepherds.
Alsations maybe? lol :lol:
Quote by john469




More fuel for the debate

The figures vis a vis the ethnic background of recipients of state benefits can be found somewhere; I'll try and dig them up.
Shouldnt be to hard to find, and will shut the nay sayers up in an instant.
I think somalis were at the top, then jamaicans, pakistanis etc; either way, all groups per capita heavilly outweighed indigenous whites.
The same is true across Europe, indeed a recent study out of the Frisch Centre for Economic Research and the University of Oslo showed third world immigrants in Norway are recipients of state benefits at a rate ten times higher than that of indigenous Norwegians.
I bet they are as pissed off as the Brits then?
I would bet my business on IF this Government were to stop ANYONE claiming anything for the first year, upon entry into the UK, the flood would stop overnight.
The UK not giving anything would send shockwaves throughout the world, and would prove beyond any doubt, they come here for the benefits, and all the other luxuries they get afforded.
:upset::upset::upset:
Never mind blood boil - that doesn't even come close. This government are the biggest joke we've ever had the misfortune to elect (well done labour voters lol) They've literally bought us to our knees.
Bring back Maggie - she would never have stood for this.
We may be having to look at moving because the recession has hit us - hard. Despite me paying 40% of my salary into the system for a couple of years until recently, will we get any help at all? Will we hell. No sir. MY money is going to lazy layabouts who have never paid in a penny themselves. They might as well line up outside our offices on payday and we hand them the money ourselves. Makes me sick.
*Her*
Quote by couplefunuk
Never mind blood boil - that doesn't even come close. This government are the biggest joke we've ever had the misfortune to elect (well done labour voters lol) They've literally bought us to our knees.
Bring back Maggie - she would never have stood for this.
We may be having to look at moving because the recession has hit us - hard. Despite me paying 40% of my salary into the system for a couple of years until recently, will we get any help at all? Will we hell. No sir. MY money is going to lazy layabouts who have never paid in a penny themselves. They might as well line up outside our offices on payday and we hand them the money ourselves. Makes me sick.
*Her*

41 years ago there was a Tory Politician who lost his job as a minister in Edward Heath's shadow Cabinet because of the speech in which he foretold of the Britain that we would have and do have today in 2010
Here's a link to that speech he made back in 1968

ENOCH POWELL was right then and the BNP are right now.
(pun intended)
Quote by Rob_hood
Never mind blood boil - that doesn't even come close. This government are the biggest joke we've ever had the misfortune to elect (well done labour voters lol) They've literally bought us to our knees.
Bring back Maggie - she would never have stood for this.
We may be having to look at moving because the recession has hit us - hard. Despite me paying 40% of my salary into the system for a couple of years until recently, will we get any help at all? Will we hell. No sir. MY money is going to lazy layabouts who have never paid in a penny themselves. They might as well line up outside our offices on payday and we hand them the money ourselves. Makes me sick.
*Her*

41 years ago there was a Tory Politician who lost his job as a minister in Edward Heath's shadow Cabinet because of the speech in which he foretold of the Britain that we would have and do have today in 2010
Here's a link to that speech he made back in 1968

ENOCH POWELL was right then and the BNP are right now.
(pun intended)
Yes I believe Enoch's speech did happen. What he saw were " rivers of blood " and we have seen them many times....Brixton...Toxteth...Oldham, and others. He was not in my opinion being racist, only what he believed would happen....and it did!
As for the BNP, that is a different story.
Yes there are some of their policies that of course make sense but some of them do not.
I just would not vote for them, as some of their hidden policies make no sense, or would ever be allowed to have been marches recently in say Nottingham by far right parties, they are happening more now.
This I believe is the start of what I predicted would happen five years ago.
Rivers of blood will run again and sooner than we may well think. It is a boiling pot out there, where one tiny spark will ignite it.
Millions out there are now sick and tired of being treated as second class citizens, over it seems mass influxes of immigrants. Millions who may well be saying so behind closed doors, as are too fearful to say what their feelings are in public. But I believe that will change as you cannot hold people back forever.
Racial hatred is rising by both parties, both sides as determined as the other. Britain is certainly not the country it was, and Brits of all colours are sick and tired of being treated badly, by a Government who have deliberately created this mess.
Stories like this.....

Do nothing for racial harmony!
Yes of course people will bleat about the Scum this and the Scum that, but with a huge readership people read this, and believe it and want it to stop.
This story did happen btw, and as it rightly says....the guy who threw an egg at Two Jags was arrested so why were these guys not treated the same? I know why and it is exactly as the artical says it NOT offend minorities but the majority can go to hell!
This Government have ruined our economy....our debt is out of control. Greedy bankers of which they all know a politician or two are laughing at us. Immigration has been a deliberate ploy by this Government and it has backfired big time. The BNP have grown into a party that now has two politicians in power, and Griffin could well end up being a MP by this time next year!!
This Government calls that progress? They have ruined this country forever with it's political correctness policies that affect us all in one way or another. Health and Safety policies have gone mad, we have been railroaded into a Europe that only a few want. Our laws will be taken away from us,human rights policies have benefited the scum bags out there far more than the law abiding individuals.
Then they wonder why they are so far behind in the polls....they wonder why the BNP are a rising party....they really must be as thick as two planks if they cannot see what is staring us in the face.
Vote BNP though?....that is not the answer now.
Quote by kentswingers777
This story did happen btw, and as it rightly says....the guy who threw an egg at Two Jags was arrested so why were these guys not treated the same? I know why and it is exactly as the artical says it NOT offend minorities but the majority can go to hell!

The Police arrested the guy who threw eggs at Prescott because they (The Police) were there at the time, when Baroness Warsi visited Luton the police were not in attendance, they were called though, but by then of course the perpetrators had scarpered.
I think the last Tory pelted with eggs in Luton was John major and the miscreants got away with it that time. So this bile regarding they weren't arrested because they are Muslim is complete and utter spin.
With regards Enoch Powell "Rivers of Blood" speech which was originally known as the "The Birmingham Speech" the rivers to which he refers was meant to have been in Latin as it came from Virgils The Aeneid thereby it was taken out of context and paraphrased, badly.
Powell's immigration speech also contained for the forced repatriation of British Ex-pats, which would have gone down well I am sure. So here we are 40 years on picking out the juiciest bits of a speech and ignoring the rest of it just to fit an agenda.
Sounds like every political party out there.
I have an answer to the problem and it lies not with the immigrants, migrants, asylum seekers or the populace of GB as a whole. Guy Fawkes started it and it should end at the gates of Parliament with every self-serving back biting question dodging shifty politican there is!
bankers on a million pound a year bonuses equate to £20,000 a week extra from the taxpayer just for being failures.
the predicament of the economy/taxpayers must be the fault of imigrants and asylum seekers though and if we send em all home, millions of em, the aggregate demand of goods and services that employes/profits those of us that have work would.........FALL.
yea, them lazy phuckers next door never work, got a big flat screen telly, have three holidays a year, down the pub all day, chain smoke, got a big fuck off car, live in a big fuck off house paid for by the council, latest mobile phone, get a grand a week off the social, got ten feral kids who never go to school, hang around intimidating good citizen taxpayers at night, all while pensioners cant afford to put the heating on. its all the fault of them good for nothing asylum seekers/imigrants/lazy doleites scum that the rest of us are being forclosed, made redundant, hours cut, pay more for fuel, liquidated and have to go to the pound shop to buy christmas presents. ffs wake up sheeple. oh, i forgot to say.....in your opinion.
Quote by gulsonroad30664
bankers on a million pound a year bonuses equate to £20,000 a week extra from the taxpayer just for being failures.
the predicament of the economy/taxpayers must be the fault of imigrants and asylum seekers though and if we send em all home, millions of em, the aggregate demand of goods and services that employes/profits those of us that have work would.........FALL.
yea, them lazy phuckers next door never work, got a big flat screen telly, have three holidays a year, down the pub all day, chain smoke, got a big fuck off car, live in a big fuck off house paid for by the council, latest mobile phone, get a grand a week off the social, got ten feral kids who never go to school, hang around intimidating good citizen taxpayers at night, all while pensioners cant afford to put the heating on. its all the fault of them good for nothing asylum seekers/imigrants/lazy doleites scum that the rest of us are being forclosed, made redundant, hours cut, pay more for fuel, liquidated and have to go to the pound shop to buy christmas presents. ffs wake up sheeple. oh, i forgot to say.....in your opinion.

And ......the opinions of many many others!! A million plus at least!
Quote by gulsonroad30664
bankers on a million pound a year bonuses equate to £20,000 a week extra from the taxpayer just for being failures.
the predicament of the economy/taxpayers must be the fault of imigrants and asylum seekers though and if we send em all home, millions of em, the aggregate demand of goods and services that employes/profits those of us that have work would.........FALL.
yea, them lazy phuckers next door never work, got a big flat screen telly, have three holidays a year, down the pub all day, chain smoke, got a big fuck off car, live in a big fuck off house paid for by the council, latest mobile phone, get a grand a week off the social, got ten feral kids who never go to school, hang around intimidating good citizen taxpayers at night, all while pensioners cant afford to put the heating on. its all the fault of them good for nothing asylum seekers/imigrants/lazy doleites scum that the rest of us are being forclosed, made redundant, hours cut, pay more for fuel, liquidated and have to go to the pound shop to buy christmas presents. ffs wake up sheeple. oh, i forgot to say.....in your opinion.

Excuse me i pay my taxes lol
Quote by Phuckers
bankers on a million pound a year bonuses equate to £20,000 a week extra from the taxpayer just for being failures.
the predicament of the economy/taxpayers must be the fault of imigrants and asylum seekers though and if we send em all home, millions of em, the aggregate demand of goods and services that employes/profits those of us that have work would.........FALL.
yea, them lazy phuckers next door never work, got a big flat screen telly, have three holidays a year, down the pub all day, chain smoke, got a big fuck off car, live in a big fuck off house paid for by the council, latest mobile phone, get a grand a week off the social, got ten feral kids who never go to school, hang around intimidating good citizen taxpayers at night, all while pensioners cant afford to put the heating on. its all the fault of them good for nothing asylum seekers/imigrants/lazy doleites scum that the rest of us are being forclosed, made redundant, hours cut, pay more for fuel, liquidated and have to go to the pound shop to buy christmas presents. ffs wake up sheeple. oh, i forgot to say.....in your opinion.

Excuse me i pay my taxes lol
When I first read the post, I wondered how long it would take you to have to answer on this lol
Dave_Notts
Quote by Dave__Notts
bankers on a million pound a year bonuses equate to £20,000 a week extra from the taxpayer just for being failures.
the predicament of the economy/taxpayers must be the fault of imigrants and asylum seekers though and if we send em all home, millions of em, the aggregate demand of goods and services that employes/profits those of us that have work would.........FALL.
yea, them lazy phuckers next door never work, got a big flat screen telly, have three holidays a year, down the pub all day, chain smoke, got a big fuck off car, live in a big fuck off house paid for by the council, latest mobile phone, get a grand a week off the social, got ten feral kids who never go to school, hang around intimidating good citizen taxpayers at night, all while pensioners cant afford to put the heating on. its all the fault of them good for nothing asylum seekers/imigrants/lazy doleites scum that the rest of us are being forclosed, made redundant, hours cut, pay more for fuel, liquidated and have to go to the pound shop to buy christmas presents. ffs wake up sheeple. oh, i forgot to say.....in your opinion.

Excuse me i pay my taxes lol
When I first read the post, I wondered how long it would take you to have to answer on this lol
Dave_Notts
Hehehe have just logged on have been away
Quote by Phuckers
bankers on a million pound a year bonuses equate to £20,000 a week extra from the taxpayer just for being failures.
the predicament of the economy/taxpayers must be the fault of imigrants and asylum seekers though and if we send em all home, millions of em, the aggregate demand of goods and services that employes/profits those of us that have work would.........FALL.
yea, them lazy phuckers next door never work, got a big flat screen telly, have three holidays a year, down the pub all day, chain smoke, got a big fuck off car, live in a big fuck off house paid for by the council, latest mobile phone, get a grand a week off the social, got ten feral kids who never go to school, hang around intimidating good citizen taxpayers at night, all while pensioners cant afford to put the heating on. its all the fault of them good for nothing asylum seekers/imigrants/lazy doleites scum that the rest of us are being forclosed, made redundant, hours cut, pay more for fuel, liquidated and have to go to the pound shop to buy christmas presents. ffs wake up sheeple. oh, i forgot to say.....in your opinion.

Excuse me i pay my taxes lol
When I first read the post, I wondered how long it would take you to have to answer on this lol
Dave_Notts
Hehehe have just logged on have been away
I had a mental bet with myself that you would be first to respond to it. I was close, you was second :lol:
Hope you had a good time away..........and welcome back :thumbup:
Dave_Notts