I'm going to get one of those cameras that point out of the front of the car to record the journey. This is after a slight bump Shel had in her car, where it was her word against the other guy as to who's fault it was.
The question on here tho is this;
If you saw a person in a car coming towards you, (no chance of a crash and you passed them safely), but you saw them using a mobile phone while drivingand on playback of the video you could clearly see them doing it and the vehicle reg no, would you go to the Police with the video so the driver could be prosecuted???? (assuming the Police would do that on video evidence?).
Yes or No, would you shop them ?
But going on from that, if, in an effort to cut down on mobile phone use when driving the Police offered a reward for such videos, would that encourage you do it??
John
No I wouldnt report them, let the Police do their job and to your second question, giving financial incentives for doing the same, jeepers no thanks, start doing that and before long we'll be nurturing a nation of snitches.
Yes every time, to the first. People like that should be scraped off the roads and made to walk everywhere. Not doing it is the same as not reporting an old lady being mugged - leaving it to the police cos 'it's their job' is abdicating our responsibility as people. It is a crime and even if it doesn't result in a crash on that trip, it will eventually.
And a resounding NO to the second. The minute you pay for something you will get more of it - but a fair percentage of it will be made up.
I think the in-car camera you are referring to only retains a short section of recording before and after an impact. I don't think it records on demand or everything.
Yes :thumbup:
The idiots that I see all the time whilst riding my bike chatting on their phones is a disgrace.
The fine should be a £1000 minimum and 9 points on your license.
Oh and I think it is a brilliant idea to have in car cameras, and in the USA you can got huge discounts on your insurance if you fit one.
In car cameras would be a great addition to the world of dogging :thumbup:
Our concern, other than the use they are intended for , was if they were used for another purpose such as recording people dogging without them knowing it! Yes, we know you can do it anyway with a camera phone, but its just a thought to throw into the discussion pot!lol
oh we are all to become, the Police now are we. We also going to record those speeding...record those that go through an amber light, those that are parked on double yellow lines... Where does it stop ? I use gadgets in my car that make my life easier and more pleasant, such as a sat nav or the radio etc.....I can not see the use apart from being a big brother snoop, why would I want a camera in my car.
It can't be to record in case of an accident. Else you going to need one, on all four sides of the car. I can come out of a junction into the side of you....or not have correct braking distance and hit you from behind etc etc.......however I can also see the possibilities for abuse with this. What about a offender being parked outside a school with his car cam on recording !!
No...for me, let the Police do their job. I'll use my car for getting from point A to point B !!!!!
Report yes, not just phone use but any dangerous driving especially undertaking on motorways and I so wish hogging the middle lane was an offence, it is a clear sign of a bad, insecure driver who forces others in to the outside lane to overtake them simply because they feel safer having an empty lane either side of them.
Do it for financial gain, absolutely not, I don't need paying to help make the Country a safer place and believe it would create a somewhat vigilante state.
It could even create dangers with "camera equipped" people at the side of roads or on motorway bridges distracting drivers in a hope to earn cash from the Police.
How can answering a statement you made be taking things out of context ?
the context of what you said is simple, you said "No I wouldn't report them let the Police do their jobs" you did not say, let the Police do their jobs when it comes to people using mobile phones while driving or let the Police do their jobs when it comes to minor crime. Perhaps that is what you meant to say, perhaps that is what you think or perhaps you think that if a crime is committed but the Police don't catch the person then the perpertrator should get away with it because the public should never help with evidence, I don't know what you think I can only respond to what you say and what you said it plain for everyone to see, your accusation of me taking things out of context is just a defence for what you have said.
I said I would NOT put a camera in my car.
I said that I don't think people should put a camera in their car
But for those that choose to, I do disagree with those that say they shouldn't use the evidence it might gather and that is the difference between reporting someone to the Police and basically wasting their time because it is your word against theirs with no evidence to back up what you say or passing on Video evidence that they can choose to act upon or not.
Security of the Nation and the safety of it's inhabitants is not just the job of the police it is everyones duty as a citizen.
I feel sure that anyone walking down the street and spotting someone staggering out of a pub, hardly able to walk but getting into the drivers seat of a car would have no qualms about calling the Police and even using their mobile phone to record what they see.
I will tell you what I DO often DO, I admit when I have got something wrong.
There is plenty of footage of bad / dangerous driving on YouTube. In fact there is a viral video going around Facebook at the moment from a cyclists head camera of clear cut road rage but the driver was only cautioned. Most are unreported and frankly I doubt if the traffic Police could ever hope to deal with the volume of civilian vigilante camera footage.
Question. If you could get a discount for having an on board camera in your car, would you do it? If not why not?
There are schemes for this in place and in car cameras are on the increase big time in the States. Often they can prove cases of insurance claims and on many occasions have been hugely beneficial to claimants.
Cannot see any problem and yes I have reported bad driving on two occasions over the years, where the driver was prosecuted. One was for a drunk driver who was weaving over the road, and I managed to alert a police car, and the second was when I was about to cross a busy road to see a driver almost knock a young girl off her bike, whilst he was chatting on his phone and also alerted a passing police car.
Am I a snitch then Dean?
Dean often cameras can be a very good source of proving to an insurance company who was at fault in an course if your camera is forward facing a shunt up the back would be no good, but many accidents occur where another car or cyclist or even a pedestrian, materialises in front of you. If another car pulled out of a side street right in front of you and an accident happened, at least you would have proof it was not your fault and that is where the positive things come into this.
There are plenty examples of this on sites like You Tube.
The countries with most cameras are those with the most corruption. It is not uncommon to be stopped in Russia for no reason and to have a fine extorted out of you for - failing to stop at a junction, illegal overtaking etc etc - whatever the policeman thinks up.
The camera's are the drivers only defence.
Similarly in Mexico, lots of dash cams now. I was "breathalysed" in Cancun a few years and despite it being the middle of the day and I had not had a drink I was found to be over the limit. I had a choice - a $20 on the spot fine or a trip to the Police Station. I chose the spot fine and went on my way.