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Is it time for constitutional reform?

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If the light of recent unethical behaviour within parliament, do you think its time for constituational reform?
If so what changes would you like to see implemented?
Maybe it is, but I think the new talk of constitutional reform is just the politicians trying to take the heat off themselves.
There is no reason to have constitutional reform but lots of reason to have parliamentary reform ala David Camerons comments this week-end.
I wasn't aware we had a constitution. Just a load of laws, some traditional rights (which can be wothdrawn from us without a by-your-leave) and a whole load of carefully protected privilages for the inner circles of the civil service and parliament that most of us are barely aware of.
Maybe we should have a constitution. But, no, then there would be rules we could measure them aginst and we couldn't have that could we?
Yes, it is time to get rid of our 'so called' democracy which is not a democracy at all but is in fact an elected dictatorship.
This is why we now have a PM who was never elected to the job.
This is why the government of the day took us into a war that no-one wanted.
This is why Politicians RARELY stand for their conscientious beliefs and MOSTLY toe the party line.
PR anyone?
I want complete reform from top down
1) Abolish the Monarchy (rid us of Church/State link)
2) New voting system (anything got to be better than first past the post that has kept Lab/Tories in for last 80 years)
3) Elected second chamber (House of Lords is out dated and unelected)
4) President rather than Prime Minister who can make cabinet from out side of parliament as the USA does.
5) Stronger and more powerful Select Committees
6) End the whip system that holds back independent minded MPs'
Thats all I can think of at moment
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I want complete reform from top down
1) Abolish the Monarchy (rid us of Church/State link)
2) New voting system (anything got to be better than first past the post that has kept Lab/Tories in for last 80 years)
3) Elected second chamber (House of Lords is out dated and unelected)
4) President rather than Prime Minister who can make cabinet from out side of parliament as the USA does.
5) Stronger and more powerful Select Committees
6) End the whip system that holds back independent minded MPs'
Thats all I can think of at moment

Your not American .... are you? wink
I cant argue with any of that shropsbi although I would settle for proportional representation and an elected second chamber.
It is time for constitutional reform in that we should have one .....i.e. a written constitution.
P.S. proportional representation is a huge red herring
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It is time for constitutional reform in that we should have one .....i.e. a written constitution.
P.S. proportional representation is a huge red herring

''Proportional Repersentation is a huge red herring''
Care to elaborate?
In our country PR would make a huge difference to politics because every vote would count. At the moment if you have an alternative view to the 'safe seat' of the constituency that you happen live in it is simply not even worth making the effort to vote.
PR would give everyone a voice and would put an end to the current system of elected dictatorship.
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It is time for constitutional reform in that we should have one .....i.e. a written constitution.
P.S. proportional representation is a huge red herring

''Proportional Repersentation is a huge red herring''
Care to elaborate?
In our country PR would make a huge difference to politics because every vote would count. At the moment if you have an alternative view to the 'safe seat' of the constituency that you happen live in it is simply not even worth making the effort to vote.
PR would give everyone a voice and would put an end to the current system of elected dictatorship.
I once read a paper on the types of voting systems in the world. They listed the pros and cons for all the different types and which type of voting would benefit which type of political party.
So depending on what party you would like to see gain power would depend on what type of voting system you would advocate.
Unfortunately I can not remeber what the pros and cons were. I just remember that there were redface
Dave_Notts
P.R. tends to create government by third party ......no one gets a majority large enough to allow them to govern effectively minority parties end up brokering their votes to the highest bidder.
It's a red herring because we are sold it as the cure to the ills of our form of democracy....the problem with our system is not the nature of the vote but the fact that we have a public too apathetic to participate..pr won't solve this ,if no one votes it doesn't matter how the votes are applied
So if people are not voting because they think that their vote 'doesn't matter' perhaps if the way that the vortes were applied - did matter - maybe they would vote?