I have been reading for a while now about the plight of Jade Goody.
I saw her in the Big Brother house the first time around, and found her to be a " gobby bird ", but quite harmless, in a harmless sort of way.
Then I saw her in the " infamous " race row, in celebrity Big Brother. I did not like her then for her aggressive manner in the house towards a very quite female house mate. The row rumbled on and on, and she suffered tremendously over that rant.
But putting all of that aside I cannot help but have enormous sympathy for her battle with cancer. Now we hear it has spread. Her two sons who have had to endure their Mothers pain.
I do not know if she will survive but.....she is a fighter and I hope she pulls through. I send her my wishes of a good recovery.
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OMG that's tragic 
Not keen on her, actually I don't dislike her, it's just her loudness and constant talking over people that just grate on me and I can't watch her.
That aside, I feel so dreadfully sorry for her and the battle she is going through, it's just awful
I've not heard that it's spread and its shocked me, dreadful news.
She is a fighter tho, may she continue to fight and pull through this.
Not keen on her, actually I don't dislike her, it's just her loudness and constant talking over people that just grate on me and I can't watch her.
That aside, I feel so dreadfully sorry for her and the battle she is going through, it's just awful
I've not heard that it's spread and its shocked me, dreadful news.
She is a fighter tho, may she continue to fight and pull through this.
Gobby bird she is (takes one to know one!)
Do not know her of course, but I actually feel quite drawn to her, especially now, at this difficult time in her life.
She wears her heart on her sleeve, says what she thinks, gets a lot of stick for it....sounding familiar?!
I wish her well and all those like her, going through the fight of a serious illness.
Do not know her of course, but I actually feel quite drawn to her, especially now, at this difficult time in her life.
She wears her heart on her sleeve, says what she thinks, gets a lot of stick for it....sounding familiar?!
I wish her well and all those like her, going through the fight of a serious illness.
I read that yesterday too on the eb@y chat boards, and the report said it doesnt look good for her now, with her doctors no longer persuing a cure but fighting to see how long they can prolong her life, which is a dreadful prospect to face at any age, but for one so young its tragic.
such a shame at only 27 and with 2 small children. Cancer cares not for your age, fame, status or anything.
My best wishes and thoughts to her and her family.
such a shame at only 27 and with 2 small children. Cancer cares not for your age, fame, status or anything.
My best wishes and thoughts to her and her family.
Master of Sex
I feel very guilty as my first reaction when the story broke that she'd been given the news of her illness on the Indian BB show was that it might be a stunt.
Irrespective of the public persona and whether you like or dislike her, my reaction now is the same as it would be for anyone who finds themselves with this horrible illness ..deep sympathy and praying for her and her family that they get through it.
Irrespective of the public persona and whether you like or dislike her, my reaction now is the same as it would be for anyone who finds themselves with this horrible illness ..deep sympathy and praying for her and her family that they get through it.
i think many people at first thought it was a publicity stunt n i have read many reports in the press of people vilifyin her because she has given interveiws about her illness & her treatment etc etc etc.
I have read things like why cant she just shut up about it my mother/sister/aunty went through it with dignity & didnt get all this attention.
At the end of the day whether we like her or not Jade goody is in the public eye & lets be honest ladies if just one person who reads about her thinks omg I havn't had a smear test recently & goes then all the publicity is truly worth it.
best wishes Jade, my thoughts are with you & i've booked my long overdue test
I have read things like why cant she just shut up about it my mother/sister/aunty went through it with dignity & didnt get all this attention.
At the end of the day whether we like her or not Jade goody is in the public eye & lets be honest ladies if just one person who reads about her thinks omg I havn't had a smear test recently & goes then all the publicity is truly worth it.
best wishes Jade, my thoughts are with you & i've booked my long overdue test
When I first heard of Jade from the first BB I could relate somewhat with her as I lived and grew up within 5 miles of where she did and knew of the area she grew up.
When hearing her story of her youth and what she had to endure I felt even more drawn towards her, not because we had similar upbringings but more the fact I knew of children like her friends of mine, it couldn’t have been easy living where she did, lack of schooling and little input from educated people around her.
But her heart shone through to me, her ability to just take the knocks that were thrown her way and roll with them. She could have just as easily turned to crime and gone down a very slippery slope, as many from that area did.
I know a lot of people would say who is Jade goody anyway?
Isn’t it funny most of us know who she is.
I believe her education started after BB I feel she had a good head on her shoulders and given different circumstances within her childhood might of made more of herself on her own.
Who are we really to judge until we have walked a week in someone else’s shoes.
I like Jade she has made mistakes which since has tried to rectify, I put them down to lack of education then to the person she really is.
I am so sad for a girl that’s real life was just beginning to possibly have it end in such a short space of time it really saddens me.
So I say Jade I feel I know you but I don’t, but glad to have seen a girl like you have come from a little and got so far, I wish you well keep battling girl. xxx
When hearing her story of her youth and what she had to endure I felt even more drawn towards her, not because we had similar upbringings but more the fact I knew of children like her friends of mine, it couldn’t have been easy living where she did, lack of schooling and little input from educated people around her.
But her heart shone through to me, her ability to just take the knocks that were thrown her way and roll with them. She could have just as easily turned to crime and gone down a very slippery slope, as many from that area did.
I know a lot of people would say who is Jade goody anyway?
Isn’t it funny most of us know who she is.
I believe her education started after BB I feel she had a good head on her shoulders and given different circumstances within her childhood might of made more of herself on her own.
Who are we really to judge until we have walked a week in someone else’s shoes.
I like Jade she has made mistakes which since has tried to rectify, I put them down to lack of education then to the person she really is.
I am so sad for a girl that’s real life was just beginning to possibly have it end in such a short space of time it really saddens me.
So I say Jade I feel I know you but I don’t, but glad to have seen a girl like you have come from a little and got so far, I wish you well keep battling girl. xxx
Well said Minxy.
For all the bollocks that is going on around us, it makes me realise the important things in my life.
I have had my own fair share of problems and even am now, but her two sons :cry: .
I was going to put a thread up a while back but, it seemed like she was doing ok. Now I have read that she only possibly has weeks to live. I hope it is not true. But as somebody said, cancer knows no boundaries over age or sex or religion. It kills indiscrimantly and it saddens me to read of people so young, with a young family, going through this.
For all the bollocks that is going on around us, it makes me realise the important things in my life.
I have had my own fair share of problems and even am now, but her two sons :cry: .
I was going to put a thread up a while back but, it seemed like she was doing ok. Now I have read that she only possibly has weeks to live. I hope it is not true. But as somebody said, cancer knows no boundaries over age or sex or religion. It kills indiscrimantly and it saddens me to read of people so young, with a young family, going through this.
It is tragic what she is going through but it's not all about her
other folk in similar condition(s) are going through hell & sadly feel the 'look what I'm going through'publicity she generates seems to have a negative impact which in turn is very sad.
My heart does go out to her as a fellow human being as it does to anybody who is facing life trauma.
other folk in similar condition(s) are going through hell & sadly feel the 'look what I'm going through'publicity she generates seems to have a negative impact which in turn is very sad.
My heart does go out to her as a fellow human being as it does to anybody who is facing life trauma.
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It is tragic what she is going through but it's not all about her
other folk in similar condition(s) are going through hell & sadly feel the 'look what I'm going through' publicity she generates seems to have a negative impact which in turn is very sad.
My heart does go out to her as a fellow human being as it does to anybody who is facing life trauma.
But does it?
Kyle made public her battle with cancer that didn't generate negative impact.
Are they not both humans?
What is the differance?
My mum is battling cancer, I see it all as awareness which surely can only be a good thing.
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i don't know her personaly of course but i don't like her publicly at all. now as for what she is going through; yes i feel sorry for her to have such a thing to deal with, but isn't it bad at any age? i had the start of it at 18 and i don't think any paper would have been interested. yes it may bring things to people's attention but then isn't that also your doctors job?
non of us women are stupid and we are told constantly to go for smears. people die of embarasment (sp) and that is a fact. of not knowing to go and needing a jade goody to make you? i don't think so. my son is 14 and knows he has to check his testicals every week to make sure a lump he has doesn't suddenly change. he knows what it could mean if it were to and has lived with that for a year. his aspect on it all has been a wonder for us all who know him. he didn't need a person in a paper to tell him to check himself out, i did that.
as for the people who have had digs at her, sorry but she has made a rod for her own back. if the doctors told me i was going to die rather than have a chance at living i don't think phoning the papers to tell them on the very same day would be on my list of things to do. but she did it.
it's sad for her and her family but she isn't the only one going through it. i feel for her boys too but maybe it would have been better for them if she had kept things a little more private.
whips
There have been many documentaries on regarding all sorts of terminal illness a lot of which I personally have learnt from.
I think although terminal illness is a hard topic to discuss it is one we all mostly have to face at some point in our lives, to keep thinks private I don’t agree with, we can learn so much although the topic is touching on ground that feels uncomfortable to us all as it can stir all sorts of emotions as we know where it leads. It is knowing the final end and what that means is what I feel a lot could feel uncomfortable about.
You said isn’t it a doctors job to inform us of the facts, they will if you are faced with something, but not all the facts no.
Your doctor when you were pregnant possibliy told you are about the risks of being in contact with measles and German measles, but did he also tell you that “erythema infectiosum”,'fifth disease' or better known as 'slapped cheek disease' could cause an unborn babies death? I doubt not I only know about it because of a stillborn at 38 weeks and was told could be the cause as they knew of only 5 things that were the cause of what my daughter died of and that was one of them.
So I say what ever information we can gather for what ever the source there might be one thing we can still learn from it all in some way.
As in Jades cause even if it is knowing different treatments that are around today, to at least give us hope.
I personally have never watched her programme about her battle as I know what most of it entails, so I felt there wouldn’t be much I don’t already know about, so I can not cope with watching someone suffer, nor have I read about it as I don’t read newspapers.
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It is tragic what she is going through but it's not all about her
other folk in similar condition(s) are going through hell & sadly feel the 'look what I'm going through' publicity she generates seems to have a negative impact which in turn is very sad.
My heart does go out to her as a fellow human being as it does to anybody who is facing life trauma.
But does it?
Kyle made public her battle with cancer that didn't generate negative impact.
Are they not both humans?
What is the differance?
My mum is battling cancer, I see it all as awareness which surely can only be a good thing.
here minx is a great example of what i'm trying to say above. i missed this post of yours as it went up while i posted my first reply.
the two ladies may well both be humans but kyle had far more dignity about what she was going through. you didn't see her plastered all the time over the papers like jade. the bit of rpm's post that you have picked out says volumes about how alot of people are feeling about the coverage jade has had.
awareness is great but in the right context.
whips
Whips how I see it is Jade doesn’t get herself in the papers or nor does she make her own TV programmes, it would seem that way.
The editors and producers do that, and report and show what they want when they want, they edit cut and show.
These are the people that I see that have had supposedly and education that are wise to the world. Jade has been set up for a purpose to make them money, then shot down just as quick. During her time of ignorance on the 2nd BB show to her finding out about cancer she just disappeared.
I bet the papers reported that she called the same day do we know that for sure?
How do we know someone didn’t call her to ask if she got her result and what the outcome will be?
We don’t know all the facts really.
Jade must have been offered to make her story known, how we not know that it wasn’t to secure her boys future.
We know very little true facts, but we seem to always judge on little bits of information we gather generally from the media.
So I still keep my options open on judgement as I am not here to judge.
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fair point minx, but you know what, i'm damn sure that she isn't that stupid that she would put up with everything that is being said were it lies. now we all know that the media do things for their own gains. however, again they are not going to print things that are out and out liable. she was quoted and with that it did say that she had called the paper the night that she found out she was going to die.
i'm not judging her, each to their own. i'm just saying what i think. i think there are better things to be reporting about rather than giving two full pages to a story about jade's hair falling out. i, along with alot of other people i have spoken to, don't like the 'look at me and what i'm going through' media hype. now if those two pages had included different treatments and other case studies and such then fine. but it's not like that in most of the stuff i've seen about her.
now see i also think she is daft for wanting to marry a prat like jack, but her choice. but why do we need to see pictures of him coming out of prison after only serving a month. again it sells papers maybe but it isn't doing anything for cancer awareness is it? it may not be all her, but i haven't seen her give an interview and tell anyone to back off and give her some privacy. and money for her sons? money isn't everything and they have a farther to take care of them too.
whips
Whips I agree there are far more important issues going on at present that I would l like to know about that are going on in the world, but sadly that isn’t the case, hence why I don’t buy or read papers.
As for money I completely agree money isn’t everything, but to be honest if I knew I was dying or was battling a terminal illness I could not be sure I would think solely of myself but of my children I would feel in someway that money would go a great deal in helping them after I have gone.
The boys are only young she will not be here to provide for further education and such like. I think I would take the money put it in a trust fund to be there for them to further their opportunities, that were not there offered to her at the same age. I know there dad would hopefully be there but I still would make it my wish to be part of their future.
Perhaps if Jade had those opportunities we wouldn’t be having this conversation now, and would never have known about Jade Goody and her battle with Cancer
In one day I saw Sir Alan Sugar in his roller, Rod Stewart driving like a little ole lady in his Ferrari & David Beckham's Bently outside a school waiting for his kids.
That same day I had a giggle with a road sweeper
So who is to say how either of those guys would deal with personal tragedy?
The road sweeper's mother is ill & he & his family are dealing with it the only way they know how.
Sir Alan, David & Rod will deal with any personal tragedy the best way they know how.
Jade is doing the very same thing.
She has her opportunity to deal with her illness in her own way & use the media to make money the same way the media has done with her...
I say fair do's to the girl!
To paraphrase from a recent post... when doctors take the decision to see how long they can prolong anyone's life it will always be a dreadful prospect to face at any age regardless of wealth power status or sex.
I'm not sure what opportunities Jade should have had that would change her circumstances.
She is doing what she does best & unashamedly using the opportunity now to make her money & I wouldn't dare begrudge her for that!
There are other souls holding it together & going thru the wringer right now... but then they don't sell papers do they?
That same day I had a giggle with a road sweeper
So who is to say how either of those guys would deal with personal tragedy?
The road sweeper's mother is ill & he & his family are dealing with it the only way they know how.
Sir Alan, David & Rod will deal with any personal tragedy the best way they know how.
Jade is doing the very same thing.
She has her opportunity to deal with her illness in her own way & use the media to make money the same way the media has done with her...
I say fair do's to the girl!
To paraphrase from a recent post... when doctors take the decision to see how long they can prolong anyone's life it will always be a dreadful prospect to face at any age regardless of wealth power status or sex.
I'm not sure what opportunities Jade should have had that would change her circumstances.
She is doing what she does best & unashamedly using the opportunity now to make her money & I wouldn't dare begrudge her for that!
There are other souls holding it together & going thru the wringer right now... but then they don't sell papers do they?
Jade was already making money "the only way I know how" by having a documentary about her life. When the cancer was discovered she decided to carry on being filmed to raise awareness of cancer, the importance of early detection and hopefully to help other people cope with it. She also said she had to carry on working, because she wanted her boys to know that their mother had worked as hard as she could to give them a better life.
She had a terrible childhood - When Jade was five, her mother was injured in a motorbike accident in which she lost an arm, and as a result Jade was left to do most of the cooking and cleaning. By then, her father Andrew, a heroin addict, had left home.
She regularly rolled joints for her mother as a child. On one occasion, aged five, she even took a puff of her mum's 'spliff'. Jackiey took a photograph of the scene for the family album.
Jackiey also used to beat her daughter, once so badly she ended up in care.
Jade's life has been a tragic from an early age... it's so sad to think that after she's survived so much, she might not survive much longer. :cry:
She had a terrible childhood - When Jade was five, her mother was injured in a motorbike accident in which she lost an arm, and as a result Jade was left to do most of the cooking and cleaning. By then, her father Andrew, a heroin addict, had left home.
She regularly rolled joints for her mother as a child. On one occasion, aged five, she even took a puff of her mum's 'spliff'. Jackiey took a photograph of the scene for the family album.
Jackiey also used to beat her daughter, once so badly she ended up in care.
Jade's life has been a tragic from an early age... it's so sad to think that after she's survived so much, she might not survive much longer. :cry:
This has been something ive followed, as it is something that is very close to home. My nan died of cervical cancer, and my step mum is currently having treatment for breast cancer. I think Jade is very brave to do this in the public eye, and im sure its something she took along time to think about as to weather it was the right thing to do or not. I wish her all the very very best, and cant help but think about her two little boys at this what can only be discribed as a difficult time x
Sex God
I don't know her but I care. I care for her sons and for her fears because she is another human being and she deserves compassion. Whatever her upbringing, schooling, life experiences..she is another human and deserves to be treated and spoken of as such.
Her sons will need to be provided for and who knows what choices and life experiences Jeff is going to go through. What she is doing is her way of making sure they can have the best she can give them in her absence.
Fight on Jade....I hope you make it
Her sons will need to be provided for and who knows what choices and life experiences Jeff is going to go through. What she is doing is her way of making sure they can have the best she can give them in her absence.
Fight on Jade....I hope you make it
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I don't know her but I care. I care for her sons and for her fears because she is another human being and she deserves compassion. Whatever her upbringing, schooling, life experiences..she is another human and deserves to be treated and spoken of as such.
Her sons will need to be provided for and who knows what choices and life experiences Jeff is going to go through. What she is doing is her way of making sure they can have the best she can give them in her absence.
Fight on Jade....I hope you make it
A nice sentiment fire.
Sex God
if one good thing does come out of this, it should be a discussion of the lowering the age of the first curvical cancer pap smears...
in england and wales it is 25....
in scotland it is 20.....
if they had done it earlier then maybe they may have caught it before it got to this stage
I don't begrudge the jade coverage in regards to this... as she has said it not for her, it the money she is earning for the children
my mum went thru cancer... was 12 years in remissionm and it came back... I couldn't imagine going thru it at all....
in england and wales it is 25....
in scotland it is 20.....
if they had done it earlier then maybe they may have caught it before it got to this stage
I don't begrudge the jade coverage in regards to this... as she has said it not for her, it the money she is earning for the children
my mum went thru cancer... was 12 years in remissionm and it came back... I couldn't imagine going thru it at all....
Sex God
Apparantly she had regular smears and had been treated twice before for 'abnormal' changes. She had a further smear also showing abnormal changes but decided that she would not go for more treatment, hoping that it would sort itself out.
Having said that I think you are absolutely right - the tests should start at 18 and the education about dealing with the results should be more robust.
Having said that I think you are absolutely right - the tests should start at 18 and the education about dealing with the results should be more robust.
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if one good thing does come out of this, it should be a discussion of the lowering the age of the first curvical cancer pap smears...
in england and wales it is 25....
in scotland it is 20.....
if they had done it earlier then maybe they may have caught it before it got to this stage
I don't begrudge the jade coverage in regards to this... as she has said it not for her, it the money she is earning for the children
my mum went thru cancer... was 12 years in remissionm and it came back... I couldn't imagine going thru it at all....
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It is tragic what she is going through but it's not all about her
other folk in similar condition(s) are going through hell & sadly feel the 'look what I'm going through' publicity she generates seems to have a negative impact which in turn is very sad.
My heart does go out to her as a fellow human being as it does to anybody who is facing life trauma.
I'm with you on this one Red.
My job is caring for terminally ill cancer patients ( plus some with other life limiting illnesses ) and I see a lot of end stage cancer and even death and I know from first hand experience the emotional pain and grief the patients and their loved ones go through. I've been there myself with my own father and had to watch him struggle with it for two years before finally losing the battle.
I've lost count how many people I've seen die through cancer, Motor neurone disease, MS etc over the past 4 years of doing my job but I can honestly say, I've never heard one of them feel as sorry for themselves as Jade seems to be. It may not be her intention to come across as that but it's the impression she's left me with.
I have a few very close friends who are fighting their own battle with cancer right now and their strength stuns me at times.
I do hope Jade Goody gets through this and wish her all the best for a full recovery regardless of my opinion of her.
Sex God
You beat me to it Splen..I couldn't post this last night because of the glitches and I lost my patience.
All we really "know" is what the media is feeding us. Unless we know her personally, we know nothing.
All we really "know" is what the media is feeding us. Unless we know her personally, we know nothing.
You know what really makes me laugh about all this, but before i do i want to point out this is in no way my opinion of her she never really did anything that effected me so she never bothered me one way or another, but what i do know is that she was constantly in the papers and mags being run down, moaned about over and over about her over bearing personality, loud mouth and offensive attitude, noone liked her, noone had a good word to say about her yet now all of a sudden they all being sympathetic and to be honest a little two faced, shes still a offensive gobby cow shes just a offensive gobby cow with cancer now, don't be hypocrites!!
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unless any one of you have actually spoken to her at length and are in her circle of friends then you have no idea what she is saying or doing or feeling.
Leave the woman alone and go and amuse yourselves in your own lives.
:thumbup: We have no idea how bad this must be to deal with, Thank God!!!
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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if one good thing does come out of this, it should be a discussion of the lowering the age of the first curvical cancer pap smears...
in england and wales it is 25....
in scotland it is 20.....
if they had done it earlier then maybe they may have caught it before it got to this stage
I don't begrudge the jade coverage in regards to this... as she has said it not for her, it the money she is earning for the children
my mum went thru cancer... was 12 years in remissionm and it came back... I couldn't imagine going thru it at all....
she was told 3 years ago she had admormal cells after a smear, she chose to ignor them, thats why its gotten to this stage, pseronally i can't see the point in going for a smear if your going to ignor the results, if your not going for any follow ups why go for the smear in the first place?
Master of Sex
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she was told 3 years ago she had admormal cells after a smear, she chose to ignor them, thats why its gotten to this stage, pseronally i can't see the point in going for a smear if your going to ignor the results, if your not going for any follow ups why go for the smear in the first place?
Well, without knowing exactly what her medical situation is and was, we are relying in what is reported in the popular press.
I've heard of several instances where people have been in denial over serious illnesses like this.
Whether she is right or wrong in her actions, my view is that its simple human decency to have sympathy for anyone going through this.
Sex God
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You beat me to it Splen..I couldn't post this last night because of the glitches and I lost my patience.
All we really "know" is what the media is feeding us. Unless we know her personally, we know nothing.
Unless her publicity Guru Mr Clifford tells us otherwise ;-)
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