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Quote by GnV
i think it means two wins out of 6 means the man utd fans can come out of hiding G
lots of noise about it all two years ago, nothing but silence till now
It is in response to Mario Balotelli's comment on twitter following Man Utd's 5-3 defeat the week before when he twittered
Man Utd LOL as soon as the match ended.
Personally I think the FA should take disciplinary action against him and any other players whose behaviour can incite more hatred between football fans, aren't footballers supposed to be ambassadors and role models ?
Some of you won't understand but to some football and their team is a passion and a simple comment such as that can cause great hurt, though I abhore the comments and death threats he received immediately after the comment show that some low intelligence level football fans will take it too far and too much to heart. You have to live in the real world and prevent people like Balotelli creating the problems.
To the passionate it is abuse as hurtful as calling people Fatties or skinny or the N word or retard.
Man Utd LOL as soon as the match ended.
Personally I think the FA should take disciplinary action against him and any other players whose behaviour can incite more hatred between football fans, aren't footballers supposed to be ambassadors and role models ?
Some of you won't understand but to some football and their team is a passion and a simple comment such as that can cause great hurt, though I abhore the comments and death threats he received immediately after the comment show that some low intelligence level football fans will take it too far and too much to heart. You have to live in the real world and prevent people like Balotelli creating the problems.
To the passionate it is abuse as hurtful as calling people Fatties or skinny or the N word or retard.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i think it means two wins out of 6 means the man utd fans can come out of hiding G
lots of noise about it all two years ago, nothing but silence till now
Now you see what your saying is banter, your not an ambassador of sport or a role model, much as I disagree that United fans went into hiding your entitled to that opinion, disappointed as I have been with the results and performance last season and this season, I figure our history of success far outweighs a short term glich and has been good for the club bringing about a long overdue and massive investment by the owners.
On a slightly different note ..... it was my team (Leicester City FC) that beat Man U 5 - 3 ..... i was there, that day and those few hours will stay with me forever, it was one of the best days of my life, i cried with happiness ..... we beat Man U by 5 goals to 3 .... yes i am a fanatical football fan.... even thou LCFC lost this weekend i am still on a massive high 
I have to say that i dont "do" twitter so i had no idea of what was said elsewhere.
Sorry for butting in ............... :)
actually im not sorry ..... lol
I have to say that i dont "do" twitter so i had no idea of what was said elsewhere.
Sorry for butting in ............... :)
actually im not sorry ..... lol
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Quote by MidsCouple24
I figure our history of success far outweighs a short term glich and has been good for the club bringing about a long overdue and massive investment by the owners.
A long overdue and massive investment :-o
They've spent enough to cover 3rd world debt as it is without spending more....
Far too much money in football these days and it's ruined it...
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Quote by MidsCouple24
i think it means two wins out of 6 means the man utd fans can come out of hiding G
lots of noise about it all two years ago, nothing but silence till now
Now you see what your saying is banter, your not an ambassador of sport or a role model, much as I disagree that United fans went into hiding your entitled to that opinion, disappointed as I have been with the results and performance last season and this season, I figure our history of success far outweighs a short term glich and has been good for the club bringing about a long overdue and massive investment by the owners.
to be fair mids I'm not a football Fan, I'm a fan of football (different gravy)
this does give me an advantage in not being clouded with what i see in teams
Ferguson was a rare beast indeed, despite his inability to be an ambassador to the game he was a brilliant manager,of which there is only two possible candidates who could have filled his boots (no pun intended) in terms of success, Jose is one and Pepe being the other, as good as LVG may be he is still not in the same league as these three mangers, the UTD glitch as you call it will continue until such times as someone a little special steps up to the job, throwing money at a team wont make it special or a winning side any time soon!! the win against the hammers at the weekend was weak to say the least and fortunate for UTD that the equalizer was disallowed
i remember the chosen one vs the special one banners and banter, but if UTd wishes to return to the glory days then a special one needs to be found your best bet would be Diego Simone out side of the two gifted ones of course
the appointment of a gifted manager needs to come much sooner rather than later, the company value is dropping fast and securing finance for big wages and transfers will be hindered by a lack of champions league football, its simple economics
Quote by MidsCouple24
It is in response to Mario Balotelli's comment on twitter following Man Utd's 5-3 defeat the week before when he twittered
Man Utd LOL as soon as the match ended.
Personally I think the FA should take disciplinary action against him and any other players whose behaviour can incite more hatred between football fans, aren't footballers supposed to be ambassadors and role models ?
Some of you won't understand but to some football and their team is a passion and a simple comment such as that can cause great hurt, though I abhore the comments and death threats he received immediately after the comment show that some low intelligence level football fans will take it too far and too much to heart. You have to live in the real world and prevent people like Balotelli creating the problems.
To the passionate it is abuse as hurtful as calling people Fatties or skinny or the N word or retard.
So freedom of speech should be limited to the fans who are allowed to express whatever view they wish yet Mario should just suffer any abuse and accept it? Footballers are role models but they are people also. Furthermore, football is not a sanitised sport. It is very much a tribal sport where emotions are invested into it. The real world does not mean a footballer should keep quiet....just in case he upsets a few people who will respond with nastiness. This is the era of communications technology. People will say what they want and and troll regardless. It is not like Mario swore at every single Man U supporter and insulted their relatives. It is called banter. Normally I hate that word and how it is used as a get out clause but in this case, how can Mario's comments be seen as anything other than that? If my mate responded with LOL after my team lost would I abuse him with harsh language? Would anyone? Not likely...people just like getting the attention through trolling.
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On a slightly different note ..... it was my team (Leicester City FC) that beat Man U 5 - 3 ..... i was there, that day and those few hours will stay with me forever, it was one of the best days of my life, i cried with happiness ..... we beat Man U by 5 goals to 3 .... yes i am a fanatical football fan.... even thou LCFC lost this weekend i am still on a massive high
I have to say that i dont "do" twitter so i had no idea of what was said elsewhere.
Sorry for butting in ............... :)
actually im not sorry ..... lol
I thought LCFC played brilliantly and well deserved their win, they should have a good season, of course their problem like all before them who rise up through the leagues will come later in the season, it is a shame but fact that they have not had the years of revenue or wealth of crazy rich owner that the likes of Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham etc have had and therefore don't have the depth of squad that is needed for a full season, injuries will take it's toll. But they will finish well and have more cash and credibility to attract more talent next season.
Quote by Steve
I figure our history of success far outweighs a short term glich and has been good for the club bringing about a long overdue and massive investment by the owners.
A long overdue and massive investment :-o
They've spent enough to cover 3rd world debt as it is without spending more....
Far too much money in football these days and it's ruined it...
True, over many years, but in the last 20 years Man Utd income and expenditure has been lower than most clubs in the top 5 of their respective premiership leagues (Italy, Spain, Germany, England, France etc) with £165 million this season so far we have caught up with the likes of Chelsea and Man City, which is why I said a long overdue massive investment.
But you have to put ALL club expenditure on players in perspective with any other business, how much do Tesco, Asda, BP, ICI, JCB invest pro-rata with their overall net worth.
As for ruining the game, perhaps, but we knew it was coming, Baseball showed us that popular sport would be ruled by it's ability to generate profit for the owners and shareholders from the 1930s onwards to .
Quote by 50ShadesOfBlue
It is in response to Mario Balotelli's comment on twitter following Man Utd's 5-3 defeat the week before when he twittered
Man Utd LOL as soon as the match ended.
Personally I think the FA should take disciplinary action against him and any other players whose behaviour can incite more hatred between football fans, aren't footballers supposed to be ambassadors and role models ?
Some of you won't understand but to some football and their team is a passion and a simple comment such as that can cause great hurt, though I abhore the comments and death threats he received immediately after the comment show that some low intelligence level football fans will take it too far and too much to heart. You have to live in the real world and prevent people like Balotelli creating the problems.
To the passionate it is abuse as hurtful as calling people Fatties or skinny or the N word or retard.
So freedom of speech should be limited to the fans who are allowed to express whatever view they wish yet Mario should just suffer any abuse and accept it? Footballers are role models but they are people also. Furthermore, football is not a sanitised sport. It is very much a tribal sport where emotions are invested into it. The real world does not mean a footballer should keep quiet....just in case he upsets a few people who will respond with nastiness. This is the era of communications technology. People will say what they want and and troll regardless. It is not like Mario swore at every single Man U supporter and insulted their relatives. It is called banter. Normally I hate that word and how it is used as a get out clause but in this case, how can Mario's comments be seen as anything other than that? If my mate responded with LOL after my team lost would I abuse him with harsh language? Would anyone? Not likely...people just like getting the attention through trolling.
You need to post this in the thread you have been reading about the subject not this one, because it bears no relation to what I said. I stated "I abhore the comments and death threats he received immediately after the comment" or are you just choosing to twist things to your opinion ? I also stated my opinion that coming from a footballer be he a Utd or Liverpool player it was beyond banter but what was said by another formulite WAS banter, I see a difference between it.
And bear in mind we are talking about a sport where players have been disciplined for kissing the badge on their shirt when they score a goal.
Meanwhile
Well done UTD 7th in the league
Well done Ballotelli whoops I mean Liverpool 14th in the league
Quote by Lizaleanrob
i think it means two wins out of 6 means the man utd fans can come out of hiding G
lots of noise about it all two years ago, nothing but silence till now
Now you see what your saying is banter, your not an ambassador of sport or a role model, much as I disagree that United fans went into hiding your entitled to that opinion, disappointed as I have been with the results and performance last season and this season, I figure our history of success far outweighs a short term glich and has been good for the club bringing about a long overdue and massive investment by the owners.
to be fair mids I'm not a football Fan, I'm a fan of football (different gravy)
this does give me an advantage in not being clouded with what i see in teams
Ferguson was a rare beast indeed, despite his inability to be an ambassador to the game he was a brilliant manager,of which there is only two possible candidates who could have filled his boots (no pun intended) in terms of success, Jose is one and Pepe being the other, as good as LVG may be he is still not in the same league as these three mangers, the UTD glitch as you call it will continue until such times as someone a little special steps up to the job, throwing money at a team wont make it special or a winning side any time soon!! the win against the hammers at the weekend was weak to say the least and fortunate for UTD that the equalizer was disallowed
i remember the chosen one vs the special one banners and banter, but if UTd wishes to return to the glory days then a special one needs to be found your best bet would be Diego Simone out side of the two gifted ones of course
the appointment of a gifted manager needs to come much sooner rather than later, the company value is dropping fast and securing finance for big wages and transfers will be hindered by a lack of champions league football, its simple economics
Dropping fast, where do you get that idea from ? In 2011 Forbes valued MUFC at $ Billion. today Forbes values it at $3.6 Billion, true they have lost £40 million this season as a result of no Champions League games but plans are afoot to replace that income by playing friendly games abroad, we all know that they can fill stadiums in the USA, China and India very easily and could even get more from midweek friendlies than they could from Champions League revenue, the new kit deal starting next season netting them £130million a year also went a long way in raising not lowering MU value. Gate revenue in not down one iota neither are worldwide marketing sales. Indeed the only loss bad form has brought is the estimated loss of Champions League revenue based on previous seasons, they could have gone out of the Champions league in the earlier stages and lost a lot of that revenue, but they can't get "knocked out" of friendly matches abroad and they can actually set up a lot more of them than Champions League matches so in effect they could gain income from not being committed to the Champions League, true MU would rather be playing in the CL but not doing so does not have to mean a loss of income it can mean an increase of income.
Quote by MidsCouple24
It is in response to Mario Balotelli's comment on twitter following Man Utd's 5-3 defeat the week before when he twittered
Man Utd LOL as soon as the match ended.
Personally I think the FA should take disciplinary action against him and any other players whose behaviour can incite more hatred between football fans, aren't footballers supposed to be ambassadors and role models ?
Some of you won't understand but to some football and their team is a passion and a simple comment such as that can cause great hurt, though I abhore the comments and death threats he received immediately after the comment show that some low intelligence level football fans will take it too far and too much to heart. You have to live in the real world and prevent people like Balotelli creating the problems.
To the passionate it is abuse as hurtful as calling people Fatties or skinny or the N word or retard.
So freedom of speech should be limited to the fans who are allowed to express whatever view they wish yet Mario should just suffer any abuse and accept it? Footballers are role models but they are people also. Furthermore, football is not a sanitised sport. It is very much a tribal sport where emotions are invested into it. The real world does not mean a footballer should keep quiet....just in case he upsets a few people who will respond with nastiness. This is the era of communications technology. People will say what they want and and troll regardless. It is not like Mario swore at every single Man U supporter and insulted their relatives. It is called banter. Normally I hate that word and how it is used as a get out clause but in this case, how can Mario's comments be seen as anything other than that? If my mate responded with LOL after my team lost would I abuse him with harsh language? Would anyone? Not likely...people just like getting the attention through trolling.
You need to post this in the thread you have been reading about the subject not this one, because it bears no relation to what I said. I stated "I abhore the comments and death threats he received immediately after the comment" or are you just choosing to twist things to your opinion ? I also stated my opinion that coming from a footballer be he a Utd or Liverpool player it was beyond banter but what was said by another formulite WAS banter, I see a difference between it.
And bear in mind we are talking about a sport where players have been disciplined for kissing the badge on their shirt when they score a goal.
Meanwhile
Well done UTD 7th in the league
Well done Ballotelli whoops I mean Liverpool 14th in the league
My point was simply in relation to your argument that MB should be banned for 'inciting' hatred and for not acting as a role model. Hatred is inherent between sets of fans. Are you saying that the hatred is because of actions cos of individuals like MB? Are you saying that fans of opposing teams should all get along nicely? This is football, not rugby or cricket or basketball. It is a sport steeped in tribalism.
I am saying that as an ambassador for a sport, any sport, such childish behaviour has no place and the FA should uphold the rules they have in all cases, if you can be punished for kissing the badge of your club on the shirt you wear then surely abusing other teams in such a childish way merits equal action.
That in an age when football is trying to make things better, footballers and their clubs should be leading the way, football may be tribalist but no more so than Rugby is.
Personally I admire and respect footballers who set an example with their behaviour, Gary Linekar, Robbie Fowler and Owen were 3 of the best and the first 3 that spring to mind for that and hey, they were all Liverpool players, but times have changed at that club and now with people like Ballotolli and Suarez they have turned the wrong way especially as the club seems to condone anything they do.
That in an age when football is trying to make things better, footballers and their clubs should be leading the way, football may be tribalist but no more so than Rugby is.
Personally I admire and respect footballers who set an example with their behaviour, Gary Linekar, Robbie Fowler and Owen were 3 of the best and the first 3 that spring to mind for that and hey, they were all Liverpool players, but times have changed at that club and now with people like Ballotolli and Suarez they have turned the wrong way especially as the club seems to condone anything they do.
Quote by MidsCouple24
I am saying that as an ambassador for a sport, any sport, such childish behaviour has no place and the FA should uphold the rules they have in all cases, if you can be punished for kissing the badge of your club on the shirt you wear then surely abusing other teams in such a childish way merits equal action.
That in an age when football is trying to make things better, footballers and their clubs should be leading the way, football may be tribalist but no more so than Rugby is.
Personally I admire and respect footballers who set an example with their behaviour, Gary Linekar, Robbie Fowler and Owen were 3 of the best and the first 3 that spring to mind for that and hey, they were all Liverpool players, but times have changed at that club and now with people like Ballotolli and Suarez they have turned the wrong way especially as the club seems to condone anything they do.
Gary Lineker played for Everton. Robbie Fowler was banned for simulating snorting cocaine as part of a celebration.
Have you ever been to a rugby match? Rugby is no where near as "tribalist" as football and as for Balotelli being punished for that tweet...... Good to see you're still spouting forth nonsense.
I think the post above reinforces my view somewhat....but I also wish to add that I think by only blaming the footballer, you are laying all the responsibility at them. As a supporter, if we give as good as we get then we have to take the consequences from time to time and need to be accountable for our own actions. Nobody is forcing us to behave in any certain way. We all know where the boundaries are...no need to narrow these boundaries. It would ruin sport even further. Many traditionalists claim that the modern Sky consumerist society has already diluted the game.
I agree, but of course the majority of fans (I would call them true fans) are well behaved and tolerant albeit full of banter towards other teams, I myself respect all the other clubs and fans, Liverpool have a great history for skill and achievement as well as setting standards, I do believe those standards have dropped of late. Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, where would United be without them to play, Manchester City, such devoted fans who followed them during the recent lull in their achievements (25 years without silver) they stuck by them even as they dropped down the league.
Kidderminster Town, wow, such supporters that go and stand in the muddy grass and pouring rain with no shelter to watch unknown but dedicated players every Saturday, it is quite easy to go and watch the skills of the top players in the comfort of the seats and covered stands, to join with tens of thousands of other like minded supporters, it is another thing to huddle in a small crowd each Saturday, I salute their loyalty and dedication.
But a bit of banter between fans is good, abuse is abuse and there is no room for it in any sport, Andy Murray recently received a lot of abuse when he declared his support for an independent Scotland, that was disgusting.
We have to rely on the ambassadors of sport and those that run sport to teach people how things should be so that we can all feel the way the majority do.
Condoning such behaviour is simply wrong and such behaviour will continue as long as we do condone it.
Kidderminster Town, wow, such supporters that go and stand in the muddy grass and pouring rain with no shelter to watch unknown but dedicated players every Saturday, it is quite easy to go and watch the skills of the top players in the comfort of the seats and covered stands, to join with tens of thousands of other like minded supporters, it is another thing to huddle in a small crowd each Saturday, I salute their loyalty and dedication.
But a bit of banter between fans is good, abuse is abuse and there is no room for it in any sport, Andy Murray recently received a lot of abuse when he declared his support for an independent Scotland, that was disgusting.
We have to rely on the ambassadors of sport and those that run sport to teach people how things should be so that we can all feel the way the majority do.
Condoning such behaviour is simply wrong and such behaviour will continue as long as we do condone it.
Hmm...I don't think the majority of fans would willingly integrate themselves into this mutual respect mindset. There is a lot of history and bad blood. Sure, there are teams that opposing fans can appreciate and players who earn plaudits from both sets of supporters....but Rangers/Celtic, Aletico/Real, Inter/AC...real hatred exists between these oppositions and diminishing this feeling would be to eradicate their identities. A person who sits at home watching the football every week on their sofa may not care what happens. But the people who support the teams buying season tickets, travel, enduring relegations and all manner of hardships, they have a certain right to express their emotions because it is all part of them and in their blood. I think that as long as fans are not stupid enough to let the emotions spill out into violence or real harm to any person, then leave them be.
People have a right to disagree and to offend. We do not live in a society of robots. People have to be taught where to draw the line at abuse I agree, but I do not think that we need to be taught how to govern ourselves or how to think as individuals.
People have a right to disagree and to offend. We do not live in a society of robots. People have to be taught where to draw the line at abuse I agree, but I do not think that we need to be taught how to govern ourselves or how to think as individuals.
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Quote by MidsCouple24
Dropping fast, where do you get that idea from ? In 2011 Forbes valued MUFC at $ Billion. today Forbes values it at $3.6 Billion, true they have lost £40 million this season as a result of no Champions League games but plans are afoot to replace that income by playing friendly games abroad, we all know that they can fill stadiums in the USA, China and India very easily and could even get more from midweek friendlies than they could from Champions League revenue, the new kit deal starting next season netting them £130million a year also went a long way in raising not lowering MU value. Gate revenue in not down one iota neither are worldwide marketing sales. Indeed the only loss bad form has brought is the estimated loss of Champions League revenue based on previous seasons, they could have gone out of the Champions league in the earlier stages and lost a lot of that revenue, but they can't get "knocked out" of friendly matches abroad and they can actually set up a lot more of them than Champions League matches so in effect they could gain income from not being committed to the Champions League, true MU would rather be playing in the CL but not doing so does not have to mean a loss of income it can mean an increase of income.
ok where do i start
no1: man utd or any other league football team cannot up sticks and whisk their first team off to other countries for exhibition games out side of their official summer break! nor can they arrange cheeky fund raising friendlies,they like other prem teams are contracted to the fa, uefa and television rights.
no2: David moyes reign wiped 250 million off of man utd's share price (bit more than the 40 million CL losses)
no3: the kit sponsorship cost the CEO off Chevrolet his job he thought he was paying 80million for 7 years sponsorship, when in fact he was paying 80million per year,this is also dollars and the actual kit in UKP is 100 million not 130 million you stated
should in this time man utd not make the CL Chevrolet have the right to cancel the contract, something they are desperate to do as 557 million dollars is said to be beyond their financial capabilities.
its estimated that failure to make the top 4 this year would cost man utd at least another 250 million off their share price that would make 1/2 a billion in two years
the arrival of fabergas at Chelsea tells a bigger story about the preferred clubs in the UK which should and is a big worry to man utd and its ability to attract big players to the club
like i said mids what i see in football is not clouded by my heart its looking at the facts and seeing whats actually going on
and finally a companies worth is based on future income and share price,so lets hope the guys at man utd regain their desire to win sometime soon, unfortunately i fear you don't have the guy at the helm to complete this task
Some correct, fair and valid points, but MU have not said they would not honour all FA and TV commitments, but have said that when they might have been away in Europe playing Champions League matches they might choose to play a friendly game somewhere else, I am not aware of any FA rules that would prevent them doing that since they would still be available for all FA and TV commitments.
Losing his job didn't effect the kit deal, it is still going through and yes there are targets to be hit but that is always the case for all clubs.
David Moyes reign may well have reduced the share price and value of MU but it is still worth more that back in 2011, without the Moyes reign it would simply have been worth even more.
All said and done, MU are still a very viable financial institution compared with many other Premiership clubs, any league clubs and other businesses in the UK at this moment.
As a "with my heart" supporter, I would rather have the current glich that can be turned around than for example, supporting a club that have never made it into the Champions League, never won the Premiership and never finished as high as 7 in the Premiership, or even a club like Arsenal who have only just managed to gain some silverware after so many years coming 2nd or 3rd in everything. Only Chelsea have achieved anywhere near what MU have achieved in the last 10 years when it comes to trophies.
Things could have gone better, things could be better, but it is not time to abandon ship yet.
Losing his job didn't effect the kit deal, it is still going through and yes there are targets to be hit but that is always the case for all clubs.
David Moyes reign may well have reduced the share price and value of MU but it is still worth more that back in 2011, without the Moyes reign it would simply have been worth even more.
All said and done, MU are still a very viable financial institution compared with many other Premiership clubs, any league clubs and other businesses in the UK at this moment.
As a "with my heart" supporter, I would rather have the current glich that can be turned around than for example, supporting a club that have never made it into the Champions League, never won the Premiership and never finished as high as 7 in the Premiership, or even a club like Arsenal who have only just managed to gain some silverware after so many years coming 2nd or 3rd in everything. Only Chelsea have achieved anywhere near what MU have achieved in the last 10 years when it comes to trophies.
Things could have gone better, things could be better, but it is not time to abandon ship yet.
Manchester United: Louis van Gaal backs midweek friendlies
Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal has backed the idea of the club playing midweek friendlies abroad.
Reports suggest a lack of Champions League football this season could cost United more than £40m.
Managing director Richard Arnold said on Tuesday the club would "continue to look at" lucrative fixtures overseas.
"I fully agree," said Van Gaal. "I spoke with Ed and Richard last week. I like to play midweek games against high-level opponents."
Manchester United's 2014 summer tour
Opposition (Venue)
Score
Attendance
LA Galaxy (Pasadena)
W 7-0
86,432
Roma (Denver)
W 3-2
54,117
Inter Milan (Washington)
D 0-0 (W 5-3 pens)
61,238
Real Madrid (Michigan)
W 3-1
109,318
Liverpool (Miami)
W 3-1
51,014
An early League Cup exit means United are scheduled to play only three more competitive midweek games this season, all in the Premier League, though that would increase if they require any FA Cup replays.
And Van Gaal is keen to wait until later in the season to schedule the friendlies.
"I have said in the first three months we must wait because it's difficult enough for the players to adapt to the new playing style and organisation.
"They shall honour that. I like to play midweek games against high level opponents."
Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal has backed the idea of the club playing midweek friendlies abroad.
Reports suggest a lack of Champions League football this season could cost United more than £40m.
Managing director Richard Arnold said on Tuesday the club would "continue to look at" lucrative fixtures overseas.
"I fully agree," said Van Gaal. "I spoke with Ed and Richard last week. I like to play midweek games against high-level opponents."
Manchester United's 2014 summer tour
Opposition (Venue)
Score
Attendance
LA Galaxy (Pasadena)
W 7-0
86,432
Roma (Denver)
W 3-2
54,117
Inter Milan (Washington)
D 0-0 (W 5-3 pens)
61,238
Real Madrid (Michigan)
W 3-1
109,318
Liverpool (Miami)
W 3-1
51,014
An early League Cup exit means United are scheduled to play only three more competitive midweek games this season, all in the Premier League, though that would increase if they require any FA Cup replays.
And Van Gaal is keen to wait until later in the season to schedule the friendlies.
"I have said in the first three months we must wait because it's difficult enough for the players to adapt to the new playing style and organisation.
"They shall honour that. I like to play midweek games against high level opponents."
Quote by MidsCouple24
Some correct, fair and valid points, but MU have not said they would not honour all FA and TV commitments, but have said that when they might have been away in Europe playing Champions League matches they might choose to play a friendly game somewhere else, I am not aware of any FA rules that would prevent them doing that since they would still be available for all FA and TV commitments.
Losing his job didn't effect the kit deal, it is still going through and yes there are targets to be hit but that is always the case for all clubs.
David Moyes reign may well have reduced the share price and value of MU but it is still worth more that back in 2011, without the Moyes reign it would simply have been worth even more.
All said and done, MU are still a very viable financial institution compared with many other Premiership clubs, any league clubs and other businesses in the UK at this moment.
As a "with my heart" supporter, I would rather have the current glich that can be turned around than for example, supporting a club that have never made it into the Champions League, never won the Premiership and never finished as high as 7 in the Premiership, or even a club like Arsenal who have only just managed to gain some silverware after so many years coming 2nd or 3rd in everything. Only Chelsea have achieved anywhere near what MU have achieved in the last 10 years when it comes to trophies.
Things could have gone better, things could be better, but it is not time to abandon ship yet.
So....gloryhunter then? This is symbolic of the Sky generation which I alluded to earlier with armchair fans competing with rival fans as if they were playing Top Trumps. It is worth noting that the fans of the so-called big 4-5 clubs are only obsessed with cups and figures and tabloid column inches. Something which is completely alien to the other fans from the other clubs where it is not all about success.
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Some correct, fair and valid points, but MU have not said they would not honour all FA and TV commitments, but have said that when they might have been away in Europe playing Champions League matches they might choose to play a friendly game somewhere else, I am not aware of any FA rules that would prevent them doing that since they would still be available for all FA and TV commitments.
Losing his job didn't effect the kit deal, it is still going through and yes there are targets to be hit but that is always the case for all clubs.
David Moyes reign may well have reduced the share price and value of MU but it is still worth more that back in 2011, without the Moyes reign it would simply have been worth even more.
All said and done, MU are still a very viable financial institution compared with many other Premiership clubs, any league clubs and other businesses in the UK at this moment.
As a "with my heart" supporter, I would rather have the current glich that can be turned around than for example, supporting a club that have never made it into the Champions League, never won the Premiership and never finished as high as 7 in the Premiership, or even a club like Arsenal who have only just managed to gain some silverware after so many years coming 2nd or 3rd in everything. Only Chelsea have achieved anywhere near what MU have achieved in the last 10 years when it comes to trophies.
Things could have gone better, things could be better, but it is not time to abandon ship yet.
So....gloryhunter then? This is symbolic of the Sky generation which I alluded to earlier with armchair fans competing with rival fans as if they were playing Top Trumps. It is worth noting that the fans of the so-called big 4-5 clubs are only obsessed with cups and figures and tabloid column inches. Something which is completely alien to the other fans from the other clubs where it is not all about success.
Do you honestly think that any fan, sportsperson, entertainer does not enjoy the glory aspect of what they choose to do or watch ?
Do you honestly think that the supporters of Kidderminster town do not want their club to win their league title, perhaps even the FA Cup ?
Do you believe that people like Sir Cliff Richard continue to do concerts for their fans sake or the money or do you think it might be because they love the appreciation of the crowd at their concerts ? that Tim Henman would not love to win Wimbledon and a grand slam and that he doesn't really care if he never wins a trophy.
Silverware is beyond the abilities of some to achieve it but they would still welcome it and hope it comes as do their fans.
True some sports fans expect it of the people they support because they believe they can achieve it and yes they are disappointed when it does not happen, is that necessarily a bad thing ?
If the supporters of the top clubs are Glory hunters how come the fans of Manchester City and Leeds stood by their team without a significant drop in gate income when those clubs fell dramatically down the tables and when Manchester City went 25years without winning a single piece of silverware ? 25 years is a long time for a glory hunter to stand by a non-achiever.
The glory that they seek is what brings the money into the game in general a small percentage of which trickles down to the lower divisions, I wish it could be more but business is business and I have no control over that.
You will be saying next that footballers are overpaid, which any wise person knows is not true when all the realities are taken into account.
question is are you supporter or a fan !!
I have had a season ticket through thick and thin at The Wolves...and believe me there have been some very bad times. Days from going into liquidation, two sides of the ground being closed, and that's not even mentioning what has sometimes passed as football on the pitch !! But I am a supporter, so I am still there. There was a banner across the North Bank, ( where my season ticket is) last season, when we were down in League one... It said
"This is our love...and it knows no division "
A fan...on the other hand rarely goes a game. They sit at home in comfort of their armchair and wallow in the success when they win.....and moan like hell when they lose.
When you have been to Grimsby ( no offense to anyone from Grimsby but it is a grim place and a long way ) on a wet and cold Tuesday night, only to see your side lose, then you may be able to call yourself a supporter and have earned the right to have a moan !!!
I have had a season ticket through thick and thin at The Wolves...and believe me there have been some very bad times. Days from going into liquidation, two sides of the ground being closed, and that's not even mentioning what has sometimes passed as football on the pitch !! But I am a supporter, so I am still there. There was a banner across the North Bank, ( where my season ticket is) last season, when we were down in League one... It said
"This is our love...and it knows no division "
A fan...on the other hand rarely goes a game. They sit at home in comfort of their armchair and wallow in the success when they win.....and moan like hell when they lose.
When you have been to Grimsby ( no offense to anyone from Grimsby but it is a grim place and a long way ) on a wet and cold Tuesday night, only to see your side lose, then you may be able to call yourself a supporter and have earned the right to have a moan !!!
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question is are you supporter or a fan !!
I have had a season ticket through thick and thin at The Wolves...and believe me there have been some very bad times. Days from going into liquidation, two sides of the ground being closed, and that's not even mentioning what has sometimes passed as football on the pitch !! But I am a supporter, so I am still there. There was a banner across the North Bank, ( where my season ticket is) last season, when we were down in League one... It said
"This is our love...and it knows no division "
A fan...on the other hand rarely goes a game. They sit at home in comfort of their armchair and wallow in the success when they win.....and moan like hell when they lose.
When you have been to Grimsby ( no offense to anyone from Grimsby but it is a grim place and a long way ) on a wet and cold Tuesday night, only to see your side lose, then you may be able to call yourself a supporter and have earned the right to have a moan !!!
I remember watching John Richards at Molyneux in the late 70's, great days!
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question is are you supporter or a fan !!
I have had a season ticket through thick and thin at The Wolves...and believe me there have been some very bad times. Days from going into liquidation, two sides of the ground being closed, and that's not even mentioning what has sometimes passed as football on the pitch !! But I am a supporter, so I am still there. There was a banner across the North Bank, ( where my season ticket is) last season, when we were down in League one... It said
"This is our love...and it knows no division "
A fan...on the other hand rarely goes a game. They sit at home in comfort of their armchair and wallow in the success when they win.....and moan like hell when they lose.
When you have been to Grimsby ( no offense to anyone from Grimsby but it is a grim place and a long way ) on a wet and cold Tuesday night, only to see your side lose, then you may be able to call yourself a supporter and have earned the right to have a moan !!!
I remember watching John Richards at Molyneux in the late 70's, great days!
indeed I was there....Ricjhards and the Doug up fromt...Wagstaff on the wing...Mike Bailey in midfield...Holsgrove and Munroe at the back..and Phil parkes in Goal...those were indeed my early supporting years !!!
Oh yes I too remember that team and standing in the North Bank watching them, occasionally cheering them on but happy to be at a football match.
I remember a time when they were playing United, I was in the South stand that day stood close to the girl I was in Love with, she was a pupil at Highfields Sec Mod, I was from Wards Bridge across the road, each evening I used to see her walking home and we walked a long way in the same direction often she would smile at me, I was 12 years old and not courageous enough to actually speak to her.
Then there she was at the match and being harmlessly heckled by some United fans (what did she expect being in the South stand and not the North Bank) she actually recognised me and called upon me to rescue her, my chance to be her hero and at last make myself known to her and perhaps make an impression that would last. She called me over and said "tell these northerners who the best team is".
My world shattered, what could I do, born and bred in the North I replied proudly and loudly MANCHESTER UNITED, She never did speak to me again and the smiles on my way home were gone.
I have hated Wolves ever since that day
no really I fear Wolves, they were always a bogey team for United even in recent encounters during Wolves brief visit to the Premier League, United suffered their greatest ever defeat at the hands of Wolves and Wolves suffered their greatest ever defeat at the hands of United, two teams that should stay well apart.
I remember a time when they were playing United, I was in the South stand that day stood close to the girl I was in Love with, she was a pupil at Highfields Sec Mod, I was from Wards Bridge across the road, each evening I used to see her walking home and we walked a long way in the same direction often she would smile at me, I was 12 years old and not courageous enough to actually speak to her.
Then there she was at the match and being harmlessly heckled by some United fans (what did she expect being in the South stand and not the North Bank) she actually recognised me and called upon me to rescue her, my chance to be her hero and at last make myself known to her and perhaps make an impression that would last. She called me over and said "tell these northerners who the best team is".
My world shattered, what could I do, born and bred in the North I replied proudly and loudly MANCHESTER UNITED, She never did speak to me again and the smiles on my way home were gone.
I have hated Wolves ever since that day
no really I fear Wolves, they were always a bogey team for United even in recent encounters during Wolves brief visit to the Premier League, United suffered their greatest ever defeat at the hands of Wolves and Wolves suffered their greatest ever defeat at the hands of United, two teams that should stay well apart. 