M6 toll road

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
I think this illustrates perfectly why it is useless to try to discuss any subject in here. The closed minds with the loudest voices will always drown anybody else out.

maybe some just don't have the same sense of humour others do dunno

Let's not be silly Rob if humour was either the point or present in most of the comments aimed at Ben he would I feel sure take them in the spirit they were meant...we all know that some people here are intent on shouting down any opposition with absolutely no intent to debate in an adult manner.....sometimes even a childish manner would be refreshing
i did see what i thought was a couple of humorous remarks quite often humour is mistaken for sarcasm on here
but too often it seems you have to be on one side or the other i proved this when i got two people to argue there own point a while back
ive had some adult debates with you and others on here all enjoyable
but all to often ben makes rod for his own back and you know it by the fact he refuses to answer some challenges
treat as you find is something i believe in
The thing is Rob I can remember a time (not too long ago)when Ben was far more active in this forum and when his posts were longer more detailed and most would think more reasoned (not sure I agree with that,I rarely struggle to see his point)...the problem is that certain members, one in particular who shall remain nameless, have decided that Ben is an old hippy and as such knows nothing about anything,wether Ben is an old hippy or not is irrelevant his views are as valid as yours mine or even Kennys'....it is the trite dismissal of his or anyone elses views with no attempt to answer that will kill this forum....I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
If your car breaks down 30 miles from home it would take you 3 months to push it home.

Join the AA? lol

And it is funny :lol:
It is and my above post does not refer to this.....

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If your car breaks down 30 miles from home it would take you 3 months to push it home.

Join the AA? lol

And it is funny :lol:
It is and my above post does not refer to this.....
I some times worry that my humor will offend, but then I open another can and all is well wink

2 Sep 2010

If people make ridiculous statements then they leave themselves wide open on here, they know it and everyone else does too.
I get sick to the back teeth if honest over anything talked about on here, that is even ever so slightly right wing, and I mean a tad.
The " hatred " word and the " offense " word are bounded about anytime something slightly contentious is even muttered.
If people are really that bothered by the comments people make on here, or aimed at any one particular person, then maybe they should look for something that suits them a bit better. dunno

This forum is not about any one person, but about all views about almost any subject.
Some people do not like my threads, am I really that bothered? Most of the threads I do have the most pages attached to them, so that must say something? You either love em or hate em, but ya cannot ignore them. lol

What a dull fucking world it would be if everyone was a lefty tree hugger ( humour there for anyone to see ) :lol: it takes all sorts to make a forum...I suggest people admit to that fact or just move on.

2 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
If people make ridiculous statements then they leave themselves wide open on here, they know it and everyone else does too.
I get sick to the back teeth if honest over anything talked about on here, that is even ever so slightly right wing, and I mean a tad.
Don't start the threads then....you see Ben isn't the only one who could be misunderstood..I suspect you mean the reactions to right-wing views
The " hatred " word and the " offense " word are bounded about anytime something slightly contentious is even muttered.
Then answer the point...don't make some vaguely dismissive arsey comment

If people are really that bothered by the comments people make on here, or aimed at any one particular person, then maybe they should look for something that suits them a bit better.
It is rarely the comment that bothers me but usually the disrespect for a different opinion that it carries...if you disagree with the point being made answer it with what you believe to be the valid alternative
This forum is not about any one person, but about all views about almost any subject.
I do sometimes think that you in particular lose sight of this frequently...it is as far as I can see you Ken who is usually first to lapse into abuse when you have no answer..sometimes you even manage to get the thread removed ..well done..mark one up for democracy and informed debate
Some people do not like my threads, am I really that bothered? Most of the threads I do have the most pages attached to them, so that must say something? You either love em or hate em, but ya cannot ignore them.
Good job this forum isn't about one particular person isn't it....not humour if you wondered
What a dull fucking world it would be if everyone was a lefty tree hugger ( humour there for anyone to see ) :lol: it takes all sorts to make a forum...I suggest people admit to that fact or just move on.

It does indeed take allsorts to make a forum I wish I believed that you actually think this is true

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
If your car breaks down 30 miles from home it would take you 3 months to push it home.

Join the AA? lol

And it is funny :lol:
It is and my above post does not refer to this.....
Ok fair point, but it did offend at the time and my next post was ignored which is why i posted this.
*Sits back down in the corner*

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
snip
The thing is Rob I can remember a time (not too long ago)when Ben was far more active in this forum and when his posts were longer more detailed and most would think more reasoned (not sure I agree with that,I rarely struggle to see his point)...the problem is that certain members, one in particular who shall remain nameless, have decided that Ben is an old hippy and as such knows nothing about anything,wether Ben is an old hippy or not is irrelevant his views are as valid as yours mine or even Kennys'....it is the trite dismissal of his or anyone elses views with no attempt to answer

of course they are
when a true opinion is voiced
a well worded snipe however was what i recieved from day one albeit a blundering entrance by my self redface

in defence dismissal and contempt get treated in the same manner it is all six of one and half a dozen of another
when at other times i've had and thanked those that take the time to debate a subject with me

I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

make that two

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
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The thing is Rob I can remember a time (not too long ago)when Ben was far more active in this forum and when his posts were longer more detailed and most would think more reasoned (not sure I agree with that,I rarely struggle to see his point)...the problem is that certain members, one in particular who shall remain nameless, have decided that Ben is an old hippy and as such knows nothing about anything,wether Ben is an old hippy or not is irrelevant his views are as valid as yours mine or even Kennys'....it is the trite dismissal of his or anyone elses views with no attempt to answer

of course they are
when a true opinion is voiced
a well worded snipe however was what i recieved from day one albeit a blundering entrance by my self redface

in defence dismissal and contempt get treated in the same manner it is all six of one and half a dozen of another
when at other times i've had and thanked those that take the time to debate a subject with me

I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

make that two
Mines bitter ...funnily enough

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
snip
The thing is Rob I can remember a time (not too long ago)when Ben was far more active in this forum and when his posts were longer more detailed and most would think more reasoned (not sure I agree with that,I rarely struggle to see his point)...the problem is that certain members, one in particular who shall remain nameless, have decided that Ben is an old hippy and as such knows nothing about anything,wether Ben is an old hippy or not is irrelevant his views are as valid as yours mine or even Kennys'....it is the trite dismissal of his or anyone elses views with no attempt to answer

of course they are
when a true opinion is voiced
a well worded snipe however was what i received from day one albeit a blundering entrance by my self redface

in defence dismissal and contempt get treated in the same manner it is all six of one and half a dozen of another
when at other times i've had and thanked those that take the time to debate a subject with me

I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

make that two
Mines bitter ...funnily enough
partial to a pint of mild myself wink

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I do sometimes think that you in particular lose sight of this frequently...it is as far as I can see you Ken who is usually first to lapse into abuse when you have no answer..sometimes you even manage to get the thread removed ..well done..mark one up for democracy and informed debate

I am certainly not the only one and to be honest I have had very few threads locked. The threads I have started that were locked were invariably locked because of others comments.
You without doubt only see what YOU want to see. I am usually the first am I?
YOU showed your true colours in another thread recently, and you have the nerve to accuse me of lapsing into abuse..............jeeze.
I will not bother answering any of your other points, as they hold no substance I am afraid.
If you or anyone else dislike my threads then keep away from them, nobody is forcing you or anyone else to post in them.
Until such time when the powers that be on here tell me to stop, then I will continue posting what I believe to be correct.
Now on that point I think enough has already been said away from the original topic, so unless you want to continue this via pm to give everyone a break,I bid you farewell.
I bet you will want the last word though, but it will be from me in this thread on this subject.

2 Sep 2010

Lets cut out the personal stuff eh? Its boring, petty and ruins interesting debate!

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
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The thing is Rob I can remember a time (not too long ago)when Ben was far more active in this forum and when his posts were longer more detailed and most would think more reasoned (not sure I agree with that,I rarely struggle to see his point)...the problem is that certain members, one in particular who shall remain nameless, have decided that Ben is an old hippy and as such knows nothing about anything,wether Ben is an old hippy or not is irrelevant his views are as valid as yours mine or even Kennys'....it is the trite dismissal of his or anyone elses views with no attempt to answer

of course they are
when a true opinion is voiced
a well worded snipe however was what i received from day one albeit a blundering entrance by my self redface

in defence dismissal and contempt get treated in the same manner it is all six of one and half a dozen of another
when at other times i've had and thanked those that take the time to debate a subject with me

I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

make that two
Mines bitter ...funnily enough
partial to a pint of mild myself wink

But it's so difficult to find decent mild

2 Sep 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
snip
The thing is Rob I can remember a time (not too long ago)when Ben was far more active in this forum and when his posts were longer more detailed and most would think more reasoned (not sure I agree with that,I rarely struggle to see his point)...the problem is that certain members, one in particular who shall remain nameless, have decided that Ben is an old hippy and as such knows nothing about anything,wether Ben is an old hippy or not is irrelevant his views are as valid as yours mine or even Kennys'....it is the trite dismissal of his or anyone elses views with no attempt to answer

of course they are
when a true opinion is voiced
a well worded snipe however was what i received from day one albeit a blundering entrance by my self redface

in defence dismissal and contempt get treated in the same manner it is all six of one and half a dozen of another
when at other times i've had and thanked those that take the time to debate a subject with me

I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

make that two
Mines bitter ...funnily enough
partial to a pint of mild myself wink

But it's so difficult to find decent mild
That is because, there is no such thing as a decent mild

2 Sep 2010

Prefer a nice bottle of Jack Daniels meself.

2 Sep 2010

I know of one member not far from this keyboard who is thinking that the membership fee would be better spent in the pub, where I can at least hear some imaginative insults

If thats all they are here for then I'd suggest that they go to the pub.

2 Sep 2010

Seconded............we do get meets as well which is OUR main reason for being here.
Plus we do not pay a penny, so no point me going to the pub. lol

3 Sep 2010

I used it initially, but then the toll fee went up and up so I went back to using the M6 as before going past Birmingham. £5 is ridiculous and to be honest, at the times I drive through there, the traffic isn't actually all that bad.

3 Sep 2010

Quote by _Darth_
I used it initially, but then the toll fee went up and up so I went back to using the M6 as before going past Birmingham. £5 is ridiculous and to be honest, at the times I drive through there, the traffic isn't actually all that bad.

I don't recall ever being held up badly on the M6. No worse than on the A38 to be honest. Maybe it's just the timing of it though.

3 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Well Essex understood it.............

Oi you toerag!
What do you mean "even" Essex understood it?????

3 Sep 2010

No offense meant Essex. redface

4 Sep 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
No offense meant Essex.

It's ok, I was only pulling yer leg.

4 Sep 2010

Thank goodness it is not me middle one. wink

What would you prefer us to have?