Manhunt

8 Jul 2010

Quote by gulsonroad30664
well max, we shall see and you may be absolutely right, in which case i will admit that you and kenty were right and i was wrong. until then, i remain open minded and unswayed by the presumption of guilt.

But you're not open minded. You are convinced that every event out there is part of some bank/government conspiracy.

8 Jul 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
I don't think many people besides the police think he is still in the area.... if he is going high into the northumbria hills and he knows the place like the back of his hand it is so dense then will virtually impossible to find him....
anyway we got caught up in it on sunday night when our local "social club" was raided as part of the ongoing investigation... hence we had 5 armed vans and helicopters overhead till 2am
anyway the main talk today at our place of work has been following:
a) the head coppers hair, what on earth is she doing to it..
b) what moat has done to setback the rehabilitation of gingers into normal society....
c) how after all this time of saying he wasn't a thread to the public they now tell us he is... wasn't the fact he has already shot 3 people be proof enough????
d) is it wrong to see kay burleigh off sky news reporting.... with an armed policeman behind her.... and think "just one bullet and put us all out of our misery"

Just for you fabs

thank you and can I say I love you!!! lol nice to know I am not the only one who feels like this... boy she gets on my tits!!! lol

9 Jul 2010

Quote by fabio
I don't think many people besides the police think he is still in the area.... if he is going high into the northumbria hills and he knows the place like the back of his hand it is so dense then will virtually impossible to find him....
anyway we got caught up in it on sunday night when our local "social club" was raided as part of the ongoing investigation... hence we had 5 armed vans and helicopters overhead till 2am
anyway the main talk today at our place of work has been following:
a) the head coppers hair, what on earth is she doing to it..
b) what moat has done to setback the rehabilitation of gingers into normal society....
c) how after all this time of saying he wasn't a thread to the public they now tell us he is... wasn't the fact he has already shot 3 people be proof enough????
d) is it wrong to see kay burleigh off sky news reporting.... with an armed policeman behind her.... and think "just one bullet and put us all out of our misery"

A) Ahe thought Life on Mars was a documentary - hence the 70s hairstyle
b) yup...
c) Yup
d) Please make it happen

9 Jul 2010

Quote by fabio
I don't think many people besides the police think he is still in the area.... if he is going high into the northumbria hills and he knows the place like the back of his hand it is so dense then will virtually impossible to find him....
anyway we got caught up in it on sunday night when our local "social club" was raided as part of the ongoing investigation... hence we had 5 armed vans and helicopters overhead till 2am
anyway the main talk today at our place of work has been following:
a) the head coppers hair, what on earth is she doing to it..
b) what moat has done to setback the rehabilitation of gingers into normal society....
c) how after all this time of saying he wasn't a thread to the public they now tell us he is... wasn't the fact he has already shot 3 people be proof enough????
d) is it wrong to see kay burleigh off sky news reporting.... with an armed policeman behind her.... and think "just one bullet and put us all out of our misery"

A) Ahe thought Life on Mars was a documentary - hence the 70s hairstyle
b) yup...
c) Yup
d) Please make it happen

9 Jul 2010

The police were right to believe he was still in the area. Sky news is reporting that the police have apprehended Moat and are negotiating with him but he has his own gun held to his head.

9 Jul 2010

Quote by Max777
The police were right to believe he was still in the area. Sky news is reporting that the police have apprehended Moat and are negotiating with him but he has his own gun held to his head.

Yep BBC News 24 reporting they are negotiating with him now.

9 Jul 2010

The country can no longer afford protracted trials and high profile police operations.
This man has spent enough of limited cash resources.
The liberals amongst us should put their hands in their pockets to personally pay for an extended operation or someone should take command and save us all the continued agony. The overtime on this doubles at midnight as its a weekend!
Not even his mother supports him!
Shoot him so we can all get to bed. The funeral will cost substantially less than the trial.

9 Jul 2010

Quote by GnV
The country can no longer afford protracted trials and high profile police operations.
This man has spent enough of limited cash resources.
The liberals amongst us should put their hands in their pockets to personally pay for an extended operation or someone should take command and save us all the continued agony. The overtime on this doubles at midnight as its a weekend!
Not even his mother supports him!
Shoot him so we can all get to bed. The funeral will cost substantially less than the trial.

:thumbup:
Much better if he shoots himself, at least a police officer will not have to live with it, and all the leftys screaming murderer at him.

10 Jul 2010

Quote by flower411
The country can no longer afford protracted trials and high profile police operations.
This man has spent enough of limited cash resources.
The liberals amongst us should put their hands in their pockets to personally pay for an extended operation or someone should take command and save us all the continued agony. The overtime on this doubles at midnight as its a weekend!
Not even his mother supports him!
Shoot him so we can all get to bed. The funeral will cost substantially less than the trial.

:thumbup:
Much better if he shoots himself, at least a police officer will not have to live with it, and all the leftys screaming murderer at him.
Maybe people would like to see trial by jury rather than trial by internet ... dunno

Left or right ....I`d rather see justice through the rule of law ...
Seems he has denied you that opportunity flower.

10 Jul 2010

yes a massive wast of public funds only to stick a gun to his own head
did he ever work for the council bolt

10 Jul 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
did he ever work for the council

Do you ever let up?

10 Jul 2010

Well at least he has done something worthwhile in his life now.
He is dead so is another, and two very seriously injured and all because some nutter could not control his jealous rages...good riddance to bad rubbish as someone used to say to me when younger.
So Guls as you were the one with the conspiracy theory....did he really shoot himself or was it some banker/copper/or politician who did it? :twisted:
At least no copper this morning is having to hand his gun over, and then go through all that rubbish they put them through when a police officer shoots someone.
Lets hope he has a very private funeral.

10 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
At least no copper this morning is having to hand his gun over, and then go through all that rubbish they put them through when a police officer shoots someone.

You mean like the last time they shot an unarmed man seven times in the head.... ?
The procedures are there to ensure that each incident is looked-at to check it was necessary.
Personally, with the police likely to be routinely armed soon, I prefer the investigative regime to one where the police shoot someone then stand over the body posing for pictures.

10 Jul 2010

Quote by JTS
You mean like the last time they shot an unarmed man seven times in the head.... ?

That was who exactly? Oh I remember the Brazilian man I presume? I have my own opinions on that, but now is not the time to say, unless you mean someone else?

Quote by JTS
The procedures are there to ensure that each incident is looked-at to check it was necessary.

That is exactly how it should be, but procedures are sometimes bollocks when you have a guy with a gun threatening to shoot people.
Sitting around a desk after an incident is great, but nothing is like the real thing being there as an armed officer.

Quote by JTS
Personally, with the police likely to be routinely armed soon, I prefer the investigative regime to one where the police shoot someone then stand over the body posing for pictures.

Where is that done exactly? Can you show me pictures of this happening?
You make it sound like they are the same as a hunter standing over his kill. Sorry but people with attitudes like that are best left at the back door with the weeks rubbish collections.
In REAL life you know the one....where police officers have to deal with incidents in a split second sometimes,have you even been in a situation like that? Where you have a second to think about shooting or possibly seeing a criminal shoot someone else? Thought not.
Very easy to knock the police sometimes but they do a fucking hard enough job, let alone having to answer to people with conspiracy theories, about the way they handled a particular situation. I would never want to do their job as so many times it is a lose lose scenario....but believe me when I say we would be damn fucked without those people who put their lives on the line, to protect the public from further harm, sometimes on a daily basis!

10 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
You mean like the last time they shot an unarmed man seven times in the head.... ?

That was who exactly? Oh I remember the Brazilian man I presume? I have my own opinions on that, but now is not the time to say, unless you mean someone else?

Quote by JTS
The procedures are there to ensure that each incident is looked-at to check it was necessary.

That is exactly how it should be, but procedures are sometimes bollocks when you have a guy with a gun threatening to shoot people.
Sitting around a desk after an incident is great, but nothing is like the real thing being there as an armed officer.

Quote by JTS
Personally, with the police likely to be routinely armed soon, I prefer the investigative regime to one where the police shoot someone then stand over the body posing for pictures.

Where is that done exactly? Can you show me pictures of this happening?
You make it sound like they are the same as a hunter standing over his kill. Sorry but people with attitudes like that are best left at the back door with the weeks rubbish collections.
In REAL life you know the one....where police officers have to deal with incidents in a split second sometimes,have you even been in a situation like that? Where you have a second to think about shooting or possibly seeing a criminal shoot someone else? Thought not.
Very easy to knock the police sometimes but they do a fucking hard enough job, let alone having to answer to people with conspiracy theories, about the way they handled a particular situation. I would never want to do their job as so many times it is a lose lose scenario....but believe me when I say we would be damn fucked without those people who put their lives on the line, to protect the public from further harm, sometimes on a daily basis!
Fortnightly lol

10 Jul 2010

Depends where you live though Blue? lol

We had ours emptied last Thursday and boy did it smell outside my front door.
Still do not want to detract from a very good topic by talking rubbish. wink

10 Jul 2010

i didn't think he had it in him to top himself!
well he did the decent thing in the end. good old fashioned honour and such like.

10 Jul 2010

I'd like to think things are different.....but being a "layby" sort of person and dealing with police on a two-or-three times a week basis I know they are not.

10 Jul 2010

Quote by JTS
Five years ago.....
I'd like to think things are different.....but being a "layby" sort of person and dealing with police on a two-or-three times a week basis I know they are not.

I think I understand what you and the article are saying, but a part of it seems to contradict itself...

Quote by Times article
" The soldiers believe members of the Metropolitan police team that shot dead Jean Charles de Menezes, the innocent Brazilian, on the London Underground in July would have been among those they trained, although they are not certain ".

What a contradicting piece of tripe. Not certain? Why is that then? Maybe they are also uncertain of the main points in that article?

Quote by Times article
The nature of the role done by a member of the SAS and a police officer who carries firearms is incredibly different and should not be compared.

Typical Times article....is there any truth in there or is it purely guesswork based on one persons " assumptions "?

10 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Typical Times article....is there any truth in there or is it purely guesswork based on one persons " assumptions "?

I know what you mean. I see it all the time
Dave_Notts

10 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
I think I understand what you and the article are saying, but a part of it seems to contradict itself...
" The soldiers believe members of the Metropolitan police team that shot dead Jean Charles de Menezes, the innocent Brazilian, on the London Underground in July would have been among those they trained, although they are not certain ".

What a contradicting piece of tripe. Not certain? Why is that then? Maybe they are also uncertain of the main points in that article?
Military trainers will train many many people over the course of several years. They cannot remember everyone by name years later, unless they stand out for a particular reason.

Quote by Times article
The nature of the role done by a member of the SAS and a police officer who carries firearms is incredibly different and should not be compared.

Typical Times article....is there any truth in there or is it purely guesswork based on one persons " assumptions "?
Two completely different jobs with a small crossover of their role, hence accurate.
Mal
wink

10 Jul 2010

Quote by Mal
Military trainers will train many many people over the course of several years. They cannot remember everyone by name years later, unless they stand out for a particular reason.

So that is an easy excuse to write an article, and then use the line of they cannot remember?
Hmmmmmm..........I see now, an easy get out clause.

10 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Military trainers will train many many people over the course of several years. They cannot remember everyone by name years later, unless they stand out for a particular reason.

So that is an easy excuse to write an article, and then use the line of they cannot remember?
Hmmmmmm..........I see now, an easy get out clause.
Typical troll reply, picking holes in anything and everything so they are always right. It's called real life, people do not remember absolutely everything forever.
Mal

10 Jul 2010

Quote by Mal
Military trainers will train many many people over the course of several years. They cannot remember everyone by name years later, unless they stand out for a particular reason.

So that is an easy excuse to write an article, and then use the line of they cannot remember?
Hmmmmmm..........I see now, an easy get out clause.
Typical troll reply, picking holes in anything and everything so they are always right. It's called real life, people do not remember absolutely everything forever.
Mal
With the greatest of respect Mal....the article makes some sweeping statements and then the people making the accusations cannot remember things.
If someone forgets something how can they make an accurate statement?
It can never be a true accurate statement....can it?

10 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Military trainers will train many many people over the course of several years. They cannot remember everyone by name years later, unless they stand out for a particular reason.

So that is an easy excuse to write an article, and then use the line of they cannot remember?
Hmmmmmm..........I see now, an easy get out clause.
Typical troll reply, picking holes in anything and everything so they are always right. It's called real life, people do not remember absolutely everything forever.
Mal
With the greatest of respect Mal....the article makes some sweeping statements and then the people making the accusations cannot remember things.
If someone forgets something how can they make an accurate statement?
It can never be a true accurate statement....can it?
Just to point out, as you have decided to twist what was written again, it doesn't say fact definitely that they trained them and then forgotten them , they qualified it by saying 'they are not certain'.
As I have already pointed out to two other members, these threads should not be used for point scoring. If you feel the need to continue point scoring, feel free to PM rather than annoy other site users. however I may or may not reply.
Mal

10 Jul 2010

Who is trying to point score?
I saw the article and I believe it is not that accurate...how is that twisting things?
I certainly will not pm.

10 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Who is trying to point score?
I saw the article and I believe it is not that accurate...how is that twisting things?
I certainly will not pm.

Hooray!!!! lol

10 Jul 2010

Or maybe I will. wink

10 Jul 2010

I do not think the names of the officers was revealed, so remembering is not much of an issue.
The verdict is though.

10 Jul 2010

The Media behaved,predictably ( as the Hyena pack that they are) by Whining at what little scraps of real or Mis information the Police fed them. The media seem to feel they have a god given right to gate crash any security situation and if not allowed to then they invent stuff which can, does and did make this situation worse but what do they care so long as it makes for sensational tv or sells more copies of their paper?
Raoul Moat is not the first ,nor will he be the last person to be betrayed and have his whole world wrecked by a partner.
This can and does happen to women as well as men.
"Heaven knows no rage like love to hatred turned
Nor Hell a fury like a 'Lover' Scorned."
In this case, Clearly, he became unhinged in Prison and set a course for violent revenge against his partner and her knockoff.
Had she Not told him that she had being 'Seeing' a Police Officer (which she was not) then Moat might Not have focussed on the grudge that led to him shooting that innocent Copper as well and i hope she reflects on that.
The Media's distorted reports further wound him up to extend his target base to include the general public(re: his recorded dictaphone message). I hope the Media are cited as a factor by the Police inquiry and held accountable somehow (not holding my breath on that one).The fact remains that Raoul Moat is now dead and beyond punishment for his actions.
99.9% of people who have experienced this kind of betrayal do not go as far as 'crossing the line' but many of them will have thought long and hard about doing so when they are at their Raw-est.
How many more cases like this (not nessesarily involving a gun but result in one or more people dying violently) will we see from people who are, 'As mad as Hell and not going to take it anymore'?