OK so we have a bunch of lying, self-serving bastards being questioned by another load of lying, self-serving bastards.
I don't get it. Who gives a stuff if some MPs want to question someone? They aren't the Police, the Courts or Judges. They don't seem to be calling for physical evidence. They are sat there asking some questions. Murdoch et al have no reason to say anythig that doesn't sound good - lying or truth. There is no way to check if they are telling the truth. There is no way to even make them give any answer.
What is it for? And how much am I paying for it?
I think the general view now is that the General Public are so pissed off now with the whole affair that they now just wish the Government on get on with the job of improving transparency in relationships with the media and secondly, bringing people who broke the law to justice.
Calls by Miliband in the House today for Cameron to fall on his sword were clearly evident of just how out of touch the Labour party are. He still tries to fix the agenda when the Government are clearly in charge and on top of events. If he was that convinced, he should have called for the House to vote on a confidence motion. He knows full well he will lose spectacularly and would perhaps put his own position as Leader of the Opposition in doubt so he didn't.
That's good enough for me.
Will the last person out of the chamber this evening please turn the lights out.
i was wondering, does anyone think that the person who threw custard or wjhatever it was and was cleerly someone who does not like the NOTW or mr murdoch could it have been Mr Staggers do you think?
he has not been on for a while and maybe he has spent the time plotting on how to get mr murdoch?
what do others think? :grin::grin:
First of all....all this costs us nothing !!
The MP's are already getting paid....and they don't get anything extra for sitting on a select committee. Indeed it is seen as a feather in their cap, as they have been the ones chosen. No they are not the police, but they are our elected representatives, and so I think it is very good, that they can have the chance to ask questions in the open and in the full glare of the cameras, on ouir behalf.
And the idea that the Murdochs had no idea what was happening is either gross negliegence beyond belief, or (as most suspect), they choose to turn a blind eye, as long as it sold a few more papers, and made them a few more pounds. There in the accounts they would see massive payments to individuals ( ie: police officers )....do you not think if you saw payments of £25,000 and more, you would ask, whats that then ? They continued to pay the salary of an employee of there's that got put in prison for phone hacking....and you don't think that was hush money ??
Proof that they knew may be difficult to nail.....but come on does anyone really belive them ?????
Isn't Colin Myler the one who is now employed by the Labour party?
I suspect the comparison is to do with the fact that the same people who called for Shoesmith/brown/blair etc heads are seemingly busying themselves defending Murdochs
They all lied their heads off in front of the M.P.s and no-one seems to be questioning what they said ??
Todays revelation about young Jimmy is an interesting development.... does anyone know if the perjury laws apply ??
Strange that Rupert with all his much touted grasp on the affairs of his companies now seems less than knowledgeable
Any C.E.O. having allowed his company to get so far out of his control should be removed by his board and shareholders and most would fall on their swords .... we'll see
Thats right Staggers. I am glad some could see what I said. It is simple double standards........and now backtracking to try to justify why they U-turned on a similar situation. It is irrelevant the size of the organisation, just that the argument was that if the problem was in only 1% of your organisation then you can just blame your staff.
Dave_Notts
As a curious aside ... a large part of the blame shouldered by Shoesmith belongs to the local hospital (see P.E.'s N.H.S. whistleblower report)
I would love to be in a position where I could do whatever I wished and when the shit hit the fan claim that I was too busy doing other things to pay attention to the wrongdoings of the folk who were working for me.
Isn't it totally WRONG that individuals can claim "corporate immunity" in these circumstances?
Prosecute the entire management chain and show the world that creating a corporate entity does not put an individual above the law.
I think Rupert Murdoch is innocent and it has all been a big mistake by others.
He don't have the time to make every decision what a small part of his business does.
That's why he employs people to make these decisions. they made mistakes he closed the company down.
A quote I saw last week was very good I thought.
"He may be guilty of bad journalism and personal gain, but guilty of corruption and masterminding a phone-hacking scandal?"
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