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New Year and 20% VAT

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Yes it's almost January 2011 and time for the VAT increase to 20%
Happy Christmas Everyone
Gee thanks for such cheery news lol
Ca't see it making too much difference really other than very high toicket value items - cars, furnishings etc - in every £100 extra ?
I have to say I didn't notice when they reduced VAT in my weekly bills. Didn't notice when they bumped it back up to 17.5%. Suffice to say I'll doubt I'll notice the rise to 20% either.
When I were a lad I'm pretty sure VAT was 8%. How the hell did it manage to get this high?
rolleyes
an increase in tax equals a decrease in cash in circulation unless there is a corresponding increase in credit creation greater than the increase in tax. simples.
wake the fuck up, stop watching x factor, coronation st. and east enders and agent provocateurs smashing windows dressed in balaclavas.
this is a contrived demolition of the economy. greece, ireland, next spain and portugal, possibly then italy, in whatever order and the u.k. next ! but hey, i talk a load of bollocks.
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Nurse, nurse - he's out of bed again.

brilliant foxy, i do talk a load of crap, should be in an asylum. we shall see.
It is good that some of you can afford to lose an average £30 per month, I am not that lucky and that 30quid will be sorely missed here, well in my personal case it is only 20 quid because my income is way below the national average. Maybe I should claim benefits and regain the loss :sad:
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It is good that some of you can afford to lose an average £30 per month, I am not that lucky and that 30quid will be sorely missed here, well in my personal case it is only 20 quid because my income is way below the national average. Maybe I should claim benefits and regain the loss :sad:

If your income is low enough to qualify, and you would find it helpful then you should apply. That's what they are there for. And no-one would have any right or reason to object.
I don't think it's a matter of being able to afford the extra - there simply isn't much choice in the matter. I can reduce what I buy that has VAT on it, but only so far. Apart from that, reducing other things further than they already are. And that's it. I certainly don't think anyone is 'crowing' about being able to afford the difference, but £30 over a month won't hit most people very hard. Those on less than, say £1000 take-home will certainly feel it. And they should qualify for help.
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but hey, i talk a load of bollocks.

guls I always find what you have to say interesting tbh
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an increase in tax equals a decrease in cash in circulation unless there is a corresponding increase in credit creation greater than the increase in tax. simples.
wake the fuck up, stop watching x factor, coronation st. and east enders and agent provocateurs smashing windows dressed in balaclavas.
this is a contrived demolition of the economy. greece, ireland, next spain and portugal, possibly then italy, in whatever order and the u.k. next ! but hey, i talk a load of bollocks.

Have we come up with a solution yet dunno except to repudiate the debt but explain the knock on effects and how you would overcome these?
Dave_Notts
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but hey, i talk a load of bollocks.

guls I always find what you have to say interesting tbh
As do I.
the vat increase wont affect all of our income, most of it goes on the regular bills . Gas n electric still at 5%, mortgage unaffected, council tax unaffected, phones n stuff affected, most food unaffected. OK you could argue that food will go up because of transport cost going up but the transport cost represent a small percentage of the cost. I would say the most impact of the VAT increase will be on your disposable income.
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When I were a lad I'm pretty sure VAT was 8%. How the hell did it manage to get this high?
rolleyes

same way as prescription charges i guess, what was it 10p back then now its per item.
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When I were a lad I'm pretty sure VAT was 8%. How the hell did it manage to get this high?
rolleyes

prescription charges... per item.
The NHS pensions have to be funded from somewhere :-)
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an increase in tax equals a decrease in cash in circulation unless there is a corresponding increase in credit creation greater than the increase in tax. simples.
wake the fuck up, stop watching x factor, coronation st. and east enders and agent provocateurs smashing windows dressed in balaclavas.
this is a contrived demolition of the economy. greece, ireland, next spain and portugal, possibly then italy, in whatever order and the u.k. next ! but hey, i talk a load of bollocks.

A good point. If people spent less time vegetating in front of the television and more time reading, then we might have more informed discussion.
Is it me or have petrol prices been creeping up over the last few weeks in advance of the VAT rise? Of course the oil companies wouldn't try and sneak an increase in under the guise of a tax hike would they? :sad: