Should it be banned? Other country's have made moves to ban this act
The definition of halal is anything that is legal or lawful for Muslims. In terms of meat, this can apply to what kind of animal is used (not pigs, for instance) and the way they are killed: an animal must be healthy, the butcher must make a recitation dedicating it to God, and the jugular vein, carotid artery and windpipe are cut with a single swipe from a sharp knife. As with kosher meat, the idea is that the animal dies immediately and the blood drains away. Animal rights groups have been quoted this week saying that "the suffering caused by this form of slaughter is . . . severe".
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My thoughts were brought back to this one during a discussion on another thread regarding animal rights. As this is most definitely cruel and involves very high numbers of animals every year. I wondered what others here thought about it. As some one who holds animal rights high on my agenda, I would rather see all animals stunned first before there throats are cut. Even this can be a little difficult to watch with the larger animals, like cows, pigs and sheep. I would personally rather see all animals shot dead with a bullet to the head, but this would not suit most modern shoppers, as they would have too much blood left in there meet joint.
it should definetly be banned, its very cruel
i hate cruelty to animals
the practice of killing the animal in the name of Allah is reely horrid.
the animals jugular vein is cut and they are then left to bleed to death.
the FAWC say This is a major incision into the animal and to say that it doesn't suffer is quite ridiculous," said FAWC chairwoman, Dr Judy MacArthur Clark.
it can take up to two minutes for the animal to die which surely meens the animals suffer.
this is an islamic religious ritual and as this is a christian country i beleeve it should without any doubt be banned. jews also practise this method also.
Compassion in World Farming backed the call, saying: "We believe that the law must be changed to require all animals to be stunned before slaughter."
" The Muslim Council of Britain says animals are not distressed when they are slaughtered." but
The Humanists movement, which has previously called for the abolition of ritual slaughter, said ethical values should be put above religious ones.
"There is no imperative for Muslims or Judaists to eat meat produced in this manner," said spokesman Roy Saich.
the bit i have highlighted is what i beleeve.
i watched a tv programme a couple of yeers back where they showed this happening. they strung up about 70 animals by there tied up back legs. then a man came into the room with what looked like a very large sword. he then proceeded to slash the throats of these animals one by one. the animals were writhing and in huge distress and then he calmnly went to lunch. on his return the blood was washed away and the animals cut down and sliced up. it was a horrific thing to watch and the animals in my mind suffered hugely. what a barbaric way to slaughter animals in 2011 Britain.
i eat meet and like many peeple i would hope that the animal i was eating had been slaughtered contrary to the laws of this country, in other words the animlas are stunned before slaughter. does that make me a hypocrite as i eat my roast beef today?
As someone who's used the 'stun and bolt' method, it's not much better to be honest.
Most pigs will be stunned with just a dab to the temples. But you get many that don't, especially sows. sometimes you have to give them a good old zap'in to stun them. And when i say stun, you're not stunning them unconscious, you're stunning them to make them pliant for when you stick the bolt in the brain. And when bolting a cow, 9 times out of 10 you'll get a clean kill but sometimes you'll get a cow where the skull is thicker than usual and you have to retract the bolt and do it again.
a stunned animal is not unconscious when it's killed, i've seen many a stunned pig or cow able to walk after stunning. it's more like the animal is drunk rather totally oblivious.
Halal does not mean not stunning the animal in all cases. The leading Islamic councils around the world have declared that stunning does not make the meat wrong to eat.
The vast majority of halal meat in the UK is stunned.
Dave_Notts
Dead is dead.
No method is totally humane and I wouldn't touch meat that had been drugged to keep the animal calm during slaughter. I think we should be far more worried about the conditions some animals live in (especially imported meat) and what drugs are pumped in during their lives.
If you would like to try Halal meat simply go to Prison, ALL meat served in UK prisons is prepared in the Halal way, this is because the Prison Service find it too difficult to purchase meat prepared in a way that suits Muslims, Jews, Christians etc. So to make life simple they buy that which suit the only ones that complain about it, ie muslims.
I did try to object when I was in Prison but was basically told "thats the way it is we cannot put a seperate section on the hotplate and we cannot purchase and seperate different types of meat in our fridges and on our vehicles, if we get it wrong we would be sued".
My only concern is that the meat I eat has been properly reared .... the different methods of slaughter have (as far as I can see) little to choose between them as far as the animals welfare is concerned .... they do all have the same result; the beast dies
Just wondering... because I do. You know, if I go for a curry, or get a takeaway or if I buy meat from my local ethnic/world food store, and I can't say I've noticed the too-much-blood thing.
